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  • Originally posted by Spittifiz View Post
    just like i said, pao offered a hefty amount of buyout for dorsey but fener refused. fener wont let any player go to pao as long as they are not free agent.
    DPG said that we tried to buy out a bunch of players this summer but for different reasons it didn't work out. He named Dorsey, Vesely, Hezonja, Tavares.
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    • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

      DPG said that we tried to buy out a bunch of players this summer but for different reasons it didn't work out. He named Dorsey, Vesely, Hezonja, Tavares.
      ive read that pao offered $2m buyout to barca for vesely and barca refused. why would they accept? after mirotic is gone, with willy, he is no 2 big guy over there. same goes for tavares. currently he is the best real madrid player. idk about hezonja though. for fener, now i guess everybody knows the reason.
      FENER
      cedi osman is a basketball player who routinely fails to score from the foul line and will make you lose the game while under pressure. he is mentally weak and overrated.
      calathes probably has better a 3-point percentage than cedi osman's free throw percentage and honestly, that's hilarious.

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      • Originally posted by Spittifiz View Post

        ive read that pao offered $2m buyout to barca for vesely and barca refused. why would they accept? after mirotic is gone, with willy, he is no 2 big guy over there. same goes for tavares. currently he is the best real madrid player. idk about hezonja though. for fener, now i guess everybody knows the reason.
        I'm not saying they should but at the very minimum this shows that Pao is at least honest in trying to attract top talent this year. The market is super dry so trying to buy out some contracts would make sense.
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        • Nebo in thats maccabi
          now, for a perfect american dunker duo, waiting for Martin in
          impressive incompetence, by fans first.

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          • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

            I'm not saying they should but at the very minimum this shows that Pao is at least honest in trying to attract top talent this year. The market is super dry so trying to buy out some contracts would make sense.
            every team in the league wants to sign best/better players and there is no shame in that but you need to be realistic.
            FENER
            cedi osman is a basketball player who routinely fails to score from the foul line and will make you lose the game while under pressure. he is mentally weak and overrated.
            calathes probably has better a 3-point percentage than cedi osman's free throw percentage and honestly, that's hilarious.

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            • Originally posted by maccabeo View Post
              Nebo in thats maccabi
              now, for a perfect american dunker duo, waiting for Martin in
              impressive incompetence, by fans first.
              Martin was released.

              Hapoel Tel Aviv and H. Jerusalem have new rich owners. Maccabi will risk a lot even in the domestic competitions.

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              • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

                I was joking I didn't mean to seem annoyed or anything. I hope that at some point in the future there will be some form of financial equality in the Euroleague but until then...

                The thing about private owners though is that's it's their choice to lose money. I think that for the most part basketball in Europe is not a profitable business. So why would the Serbian state choose to invest like that when it gets nothing in return? The production of good Serbian players hasn't been halted as far as I know, so what do they have to earn?
                I have a Serb friend and we discussed this. The current government is subsidising both RS and Partizan so I can get the respective fans votes to win the next election. The country gets nothing and citizens are taxed so both teams can be competitive in the EL.

                Tanoulis who Oly signed from Promitheas is a PAO fan.

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                Last edited by EverGreen; 07-19-2023, 08:52 PM.
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                • Originally posted by EverGreen View Post

                  I have a Serb friend and we discussed this. The current government is subsidising both RS and Partizan so I can get the respective fans votes to win the next election. The country gets nothing and citizens are taxed so both teams can be competitive in the EL.
                  Oof, can you imagine being an underperforming player in an arena full of people that know that your salary could have been used to build a school?
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                  • Originally posted by EverGreen View Post

                    I have a Serb friend and we discussed this. The current government is subsidising both RS and Partizan so I can get the respective fans votes to win the next election. The country gets nothing and citizens are taxed so both teams can be competitive in the EL.
                    There are also betting sponsors.

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                    • Did anyone comment on Dunston signing for Virtus?
                      It was known that Virtus had to reduce their wage bill to comply with Euroleague rules, but given the savings already made it appears that they are now going beyond that.

                      Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post

                      Martin was released.

                      Hapoel Tel Aviv and H. Jerusalem have new rich owners. Maccabi will risk a lot even in the domestic competitions.
                      Is it true that Hapoel Tel Aviv tried to sign Lundberg?

                      Also, Cory Higgins linked with Zvezda...

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                      • Originally posted by Jazz View Post
                        Did anyone comment on Dunston signing for Virtus?
                        It was known that Virtus had to reduce their wage bill to comply with Euroleague rules, but given the savings already made it appears that they are now going beyond that.



                        Is it true that Hapoel Tel Aviv tried to sign Lundberg?

                        Also, Cory Higgins linked with Zvezda...
                        Zanetti, the Italian Federman, very high ticket prices and save money where possible. No surprise at all. Dunston worst signing of the season.

                        Lundberg considers himself an El player I believe, perhaps they tried but there was no hope.

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                        • Can anyone explain why does Virtus reducing their budget so much? Rich owner, new arena, wanted to play EL every season and it's not like roster from the last season was 50M. Dunston is done and I don't understand that signing at all. Bayern is doing basically nothing. Huge expectations with Laso coming but for now, big nothing.
                          Milano is not changing a lot which is strange for them, but I like it because in the last third of the season they finally found the chemistry. Obviously, Napier's absence will be big. A lot of teams didn't change more than few players. Pao and Zvezda changed literally whole team, especially Pao. Curious to see who will Partizan sign at PG and C. I don't see LeDay at 5. If they bring really nice PG I could see them in TOP4. The team I think will be biggest underachiever compared to last season is Baskonia even tho they weren't in the PO, but they were really close and playing really good. Replacements for players that have left are...hm, let say not good enough, at least for me. Also Barca. And the team I think will be surprise is Valencia. Finally they got rid of Van Rossom, Dubljevic is slower than my grandma...Ojeleye is nice, Robertson was good in Obradoiro, also Toure at Tofas incredible. He is like European Capela. If Davies picks his form from Zalgiris/Barca and they will sign probably Matt Thomas with one more big guy...they will be pretty solid.

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                          • Originally posted by Edgar View Post
                            Can anyone explain why does Virtus reducing their budget so much? Rich owner, new arena, wanted to play EL every season and it's not like roster from the last season was 50M. Dunston is done and I don't understand that signing at all. Bayern is doing basically nothing. Huge expectations with Laso coming but for now, big nothing.
                            Milano is not changing a lot which is strange for them, but I like it because in the last third of the season they finally found the chemistry. Obviously, Napier's absence will be big. A lot of teams didn't change more than few players. Pao and Zvezda changed literally whole team, especially Pao. Curious to see who will Partizan sign at PG and C. I don't see LeDay at 5. If they bring really nice PG I could see them in TOP4. The team I think will be biggest underachiever compared to last season is Baskonia even tho they weren't in the PO, but they were really close and playing really good. Replacements for players that have left are...hm, let say not good enough, at least for me. Also Barca. And the team I think will be surprise is Valencia. Finally they got rid of Van Rossom, Dubljevic is slower than my grandma...Ojeleye is nice, Robertson was good in Obradoiro, also Toure at Tofas incredible. He is like European Capela. If Davies picks his form from Zalgiris/Barca and they will sign probably Matt Thomas with one more big guy...they will be pretty solid.
                            Just answered.

                            This owner has already possessed Bologna soccer so everyone knows what to expect.

                            Bayern indeed is another disappointment, Francisco is an undersized pg without a great 3pt shot. Having watched him this is another signing I don't understand.
                            Last edited by ronmercer80; 07-19-2023, 11:37 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post

                              Zanetti, the Italian Federman, very high ticket prices and save money where possible. No surprise at all. Dunston worst signing of the season.

                              Lundberg considers himself an El player I believe, perhaps they tried but there was no hope.
                              But they were spending big on salaries for the past few seasons. This is quite a dramatic reduction.

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                              • Edgar: I wouldn’t say Bayern is a disappointment. Sure, they are what we expected when they signed Laso but I think they have a decent team with enough players from last year. Germans are much different than Balkan people in terms of what to expect from their team and how to express it so I can see them having a chill 5 year plan and Laso having all the serenity in the world to manage it.
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