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  • Straight forward
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    Originally posted by Edgar View Post

    Guy that averages 5 points per game, 3 assists with 1.5 turnover per game while shooting 30% for the 3 with below average defense is not overrated? And he plays for very good team. Good lord if he plays for Alba as the main PG, that team wouldn't have 2 wins. And somehow he goes to Fener
    and btw he will be 24 in november so he is ain't kid anymore. He is trash.
    Don't get tricked by his Barca role. He's one of the best young players in Europe without a single doubt. Even his first season in Barca he was carrying the team as the main PG when both Calathes and Higgins went down for a stretch. He was in double digits with his +20mpg. In NT he was dropping 12,6/5,8 with excellent 50,7% from the field for a PG. Current season in EL is meh, but it's also about Grimeo being mediocre coach. Jokubaitis will be just fine. Talented as hell and no-one changing that.

    Toruko bro is on mission though Always ultra passive aggressive towards LTU BB and always sublimating immanent hate towards superior NTs. First, A. Marciulionis is the most overrated player in Europe, now Jokubaitis. Next Jakucionis and 10 other elite guard of Lithuania. Tough task ahead.

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  • Toruko
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    Originally posted by Edgar View Post
    Jokubaitis has to be the most overrated player of all time in the history of basketball.
    It seems so.

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  • Edgar
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    Originally posted by Straight forward View Post

    Why do you think so?
    Guy that averages 5 points per game, 3 assists with 1.5 turnover per game while shooting 30% for the 3 with below average defense is not overrated? And he plays for very good team. Good lord if he plays for Alba as the main PG, that team wouldn't have 2 wins. And somehow he goes to Fener
    and btw he will be 24 in november so he is ain't kid anymore. He is trash.

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  • Straight forward
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    Originally posted by Edgar View Post
    Jokubaitis has to be the most overrated player of all time in the history of basketball.
    Why do you think so?

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  • Edgar
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    Jokubaitis has to be the most overrated player of all time in the history of basketball.

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  • Straight forward
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    Jokubaitis is expected to replace Madar it seems. Definitely a plus for Fener. Jokubaitis would benefit shooters as Wilbekin, Biberovic. And Jokubaitis himself shoots 41.6% threes in his EL career. With him on the roster, it would be less defensive, but much higher offensive upside compared to Calathes and Jokubaitis about to brake out and will get close to his prime in upcoming 2-3 years.

    I want him in Zalgiris, but I think it's 50/50. The last rumor sort of heard (no idea how reliable) that Rokas side not very impressed by Zalgiris offer financially.


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  • Edgar
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    Originally posted by EverGreen View Post
    Ataman ripping into the team after a tight win vs Kolossos Rhodes whilst calling out Vildoza (1/7 from the field with bad choices) and Mitoglou (for being poor on both sides of the court in last few games)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1777392987439239510
    People don't talk enough how bad Mitoglou is last 2 months. He only plays good against Oly

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  • EverGreen
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    Originally posted by janketa View Post
    Ataman is master for roster making and he makes rare mistakes. But sometimes fatal

    With Zizic he destroyed Efes last season, 1st half of this efes season and and half of Virtus season

    Lucky for Pao that Vildosa didn;t cost too much because Nunn came very soon
    Vildoza was already signed before Ataman agreed terms with PAO. Ataman never chose him. DPG did. I don't think mentally Vildoza suits a big club or strong team where you have to earn minutes He was considered no2 guard after Sloukas but was quickly passed by Grant and then went to 4th with Nunn's arrival. He seems a sulker to me.

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  • janketa
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    Ataman is master for roster making and he makes rare mistakes. But sometimes fatal

    With Zizic he destroyed Efes last season, 1st half of this efes season and and half of Virtus season

    Lucky for Pao that Vildosa didn;t cost too much because Nunn came very soon

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  • coinho
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    Originally posted by EverGreen View Post

    A Serb friend of mine who follows Serbian teams closer said that Vildoza went to trash after Campazzo came and had the reigns taken off him. I don't know if Vildoza understands Ataman or if he buys into him but Ataman is not a man or coach to fuck around with. He'll send you home and tell you not to come back. DPG will back Ataman 100% on any decision he makes. He's earnt it with Efes and he's earned it with PAO making a team out of something that didn't have any foundations. All he found was Grigonis and some Greek kids.
    Campazzo started playing EL on 1st march (because of EL stupid suspension) so it was that time also when he had agreement with PAO.
    I dont think Campazzo was problem for him (on court ofc), i just think that he have problems with head. Also there was some stories that he broke up with girlfriend and since then that he stopped play but ....

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  • EverGreen
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    Originally posted by coinho View Post

    I dont have inside info, i have seen that on social media.
    He was great in Zvezda for a few months, he was MVP of the month in EL if i am not wrong but when he had verbal deal with PAO (february-march) he suddenly became awful. And where he stopped in Zvezda, he continued in Panathinaikos..
    A Serb friend of mine who follows Serbian teams closer said that Vildoza went to trash after Campazzo came and had the reigns taken off him. I don't know if Vildoza understands Ataman or if he buys into him but Ataman is not a man or coach to fuck around with. He'll send you home and tell you not to come back. DPG will back Ataman 100% on any decision he makes. He's earnt it with Efes and he's earned it with PAO making a team out of something that didn't have any foundations. All he found was Grigonis and some Greek kids. Grigonis asked PAO for a trainer and access to the OAKA so he can start his preseason 25 days before the team started its pre-season. That's how bad he wanted to stay at PAO and play for Ataman. For a long time PAO was after Mykhailiuk and it was rumoured that Grigonis would be moved on. He was out best player in the pre-season games so he was gaining staying points each time. Today he earned a 3 year extension because he's not the Lithuanian Cyclist but a White Knight in shining armour.​
    Last edited by EverGreen; 04-08-2024, 09:56 PM.

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  • coinho
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    Originally posted by paspalj View Post

    I don’t believe there is anything legit at the moment (unless you have some inside information). There is this looming sense that Vildoza isn’t feeling it (whatever “it” means) and the fact that he is severely underperforming. Now, whether the team will look to get rid of him come summertime, I have no idea. I wouldn’t mind a more efficient PG that is a better facilitator.
    I dont have inside info, i have seen that on social media.
    He was great in Zvezda for a few months, he was MVP of the month in EL if i am not wrong but when he had verbal deal with PAO (february-march) he suddenly became awful. And where he stopped in Zvezda, he continued in Panathinaikos..

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  • Levenspiel
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    Originally posted by EverGreen View Post
    Ataman ripping into the team after a tight win vs Kolossos Rhodes whilst calling out Vildoza (1/7 from the field with bad choices) and Mitoglou (for being poor on both sides of the court in last few games)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1777392987439239510
    Lol, he's again at it. Who does that?
    I guess he's trying to spur these guys but not if it works on Vildoza, who has always been a risky player due to attitude.

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  • paspalj
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    Originally posted by coinho View Post

    I seen some rumours that Vildoza will leave Pao this summer.
    I must admit i am scared that he could become Zvezda player again..
    I don’t believe there is anything legit at the moment (unless you have some inside information). There is this looming sense that Vildoza isn’t feeling it (whatever “it” means) and the fact that he is severely underperforming. Now, whether the team will look to get rid of him come summertime, I have no idea. I wouldn’t mind a more efficient PG that is a better facilitator.

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  • coinho
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    Originally posted by EverGreen View Post
    Ataman ripping into the team after a tight win vs Kolossos Rhodes whilst calling out Vildoza (1/7 from the field with bad choices) and Mitoglou (for being poor on both sides of the court in last few games)

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1777392987439239510
    I seen some rumours that Vildoza will leave Pao this summer.
    I must admit i am scared that he could become Zvezda player again..

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