European Competitions 2023/24 - Signings & Rumours

[Toruko]

I can't see how come there are rumours about Lessort coming to Panathinaikos. He has a great season with Partizan, so the most possible scenario is for him to extend his contract.
Would you really want to get rid of Grigonis?? I believe that he is a great player and we should keep him. I fear that we will lose Papagiannis and that we will sign K.Antentokoumpo as our main center..

Then not even god himself can help you let alone Aaman.

[tonia]

Then not even god himself can help you let alone Aaman.

I hope that Ataman has a vision and a plan for the team. I can't really understand how we ended up with him.. I think this was the time for him to sign a contract with a highly budgeted team, after his recent successes with Efes. The fact that he chose to come to Panathinaikos is at least surprising. Even if he was promised a high budget, there is no way we can reach Efes'. I really hope that Panathinaikos will insist on playing with some greek players so that "Athens" which is written on the jersey is not decorative..

[markkanen]

Is Vildoza done deal? And what about Campazzo, is he going to Madrid?

[Levenspiel]

I hope that Ataman has a vision and a plan for the team. I can't really understand how we ended up with him.. I think this was the time for him to sign a contract with a highly budgeted team, after his recent successes with Efes. The fact that he chose to come to Panathinaikos is at least surprising. Even if he was promised a high budget, there is no way we can reach Efes'. I really hope that Panathinaikos will insist on playing with some greek players so that "Athens" which is written on the jersey is not decorative..

Ataman has a long history of exceeding expectations., but I really cannot predict he'll fare with PAO. He can be too provocative at times, and the team may implode. Anyway best of luck to him. Now, I'm curious if he's going to pry away any players from Efes. A few names are available.

[saras]

https://www.sdna.gr/mpasket/1077194_ypothesi-kampatso-fabori-i-real-alla-o-paiktis-den-ehei-kleisei-kai-o-panathinaikos

about campazzo. real are the favorites, but their offer is nowhere near panathinaikos one,cause there are 2,6 million on his clause when he left for the nba. players hasnt paid that money to real,so if they accept to delete that clause (which means losing 2,6 millions) he will sign. anyway, for panathinaikos the fact that goes for campazzo is good, if that proves the team goes for players with such annual salaries. if its not campazzo,it might be another one expensive pg.

as for kostas antetokunbo, he wont me main center even if papagiannis leaves. the problem will be even if he is the 2nd one. he is not skilled enough to be the backup center to any euroleague team. he proved that twice in asvel and fener. the rumours about lessort (and leday) come from the speculation of a much higher budget than last season. it remains to be seen if thats gonna happen or not. and yes i would get rid of grigonis, cause vildoza is already a player of the team, so i prefer matt thomas over grigonis as the second sg. of course ataman might have something else on his mind, beabouis and elijah bryant are free agents this summer from efes

[tonia]

https://www.sdna.gr/mpasket/1077194_...-panathinaikos

about campazzo. real are the favorites, but their offer is nowhere near panathinaikos one,cause there are 2,6 million on his clause when he left for the nba. players hasnt paid that money to real,so if they accept to delete that clause (which means losing 2,6 millions) he will sign. anyway, for panathinaikos the fact that goes for campazzo is good, if that proves the team goes for players with such annual salaries. if its not campazzo,it might be another one expensive pg.

as for kostas antetokunbo, he wont me main center even if papagiannis leaves. the problem will be even if he is the 2nd one. he is not skilled enough to be the backup center to any euroleague team. he proved that twice in asvel and fener. the rumours about lessort (and leday) come from the speculation of a much higher budget than last season. it remains to be seen if thats gonna happen or not. and yes i would get rid of grigonis, cause vildoza is already a player of the team, so i prefer matt thomas over grigonis as the second sg. of course ataman might have something else on his mind, beabouis and elijah bryant are free agents this summer from efes

Grigonis has a closed contract until the summer of 2024. On the other hand, Matt Thomas' contract is not closed, but there is an "option" at the end of the season which Panathinaikos will be able to activate if they wish (hopefully not) to keep him in the team.

[saras]

grigonis had a contract for this season with csska as well,but he didnt play there. the fact he has a contract means nothing, he can go play somewhere else where he enjoys it more (for example zalgiris) and will be happier (isnt that the reason he was upset during the season according to sources?).

grigonis is a good player but highly overrated. he is slow,weak defensively and lacks ball handling which immediately places him as a wing side player. he is a very good (one of the best) shooter, but mostly as a spot up shooter. on the other hand thomas has pretty much same weaknesses,but he is faster and is also a great shooter. imo better than grigonis and can shoot off sreen, as a spot up and with a pullup. things grigonis cant do. thomas is much better than grigonis and with summer training,he will be better and back to his standards as one of the best off the ball shooters and scorers in europe. plus he wont be away in asia for world cup. i would not keep grigonis, even if we could not keep thomas. beabouis and elijah bryant are both much better players than grigonis, pretty much equal when it comes to shooting and much better defensively, im sure even paris lee can post grigonis in training

[markkanen]

Send him to Zalgiris than!

[radallo]

Ataman has a long history of exceeding expectations., but I really cannot predict he'll fare with PAO. He can be too provocative at times, and the team may implode. Anyway best of luck to him. Now, I'm curious if he's going to pry away any players from Efes. A few names are available.

'Available' on the market, maybe... The real question is.. how many Efes player would be 'available' to have Ataman again as coach..

My humble opinion.. Ataman is greatly overestimated as a coach. Looking forward to see how his relationship with the ownership will develop.

[janketa]

Agree 100% about Ataman. Micic is overestimated too

All glory for Efes's success should belong to Larkin cos everything started with him not Ataman. Also this season showed how mediocre is Efes and Ataman without him(or with him just after injury)

[Levenspiel]

I disagree about Ataman being overrated, simply because he's not generally considered among the elite coaches of Europe. He's been demonstrably weak in drawing ad-hoc plays, as proven countless times even in the title years, but you cannot argue his titles, all of which, IMHO, had his signature. Too many of them to attribute to luck.

anyway, a valid point is that he probably cannot lure anyone from the current Efes roster

[Jazz]

katash proved nothing at panathinaikos before 2 years. he won 2 titles against nobody. at greek cup olympiakos was disqualified by kolossos in the first round and in the greek league olympiakos was in the second division and we won the championship against lavrio in the greek finals. we would have won these 2 titles with giannakopoulos himself as a coach.

compared to the clowns priftis and radonjic who replaced him though, katash looks like a mix of popovic and obradovic

This is why context matters. It sounds impressive that he won those trophies until you remember that it was like winning a one man race.

[tonia]

Bacon is considered from now as a former player of Panathinaikos, since coach Serelis decided on his immediate departure.

[LuDux]

Bacon is considered from now as a former player of Panathinaikos, since coach Serelis decided on his immediate departure.

Serelis or Ataman?

[tonia]

Serelis or Ataman?

https://www.eurohoops.net/en/euroleague/1495513/panathinaikos-cutting-dwayne-bacon-confirmed/

Serelis, as it is written.