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  • Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post

    It wasn't an easy task, it should be underlined that this Hapoel Tel Aviv was perhaps the strongest of this millennium and they managed to destroy the always ambitious Hapoel Jerusalem in the semifinals.
    Yes it wasn't easy task, especially taking in account all shit around. Maccabi made big mistake agreeing to play in second game after 40 minutes delay in the beginning. Anyway we took championship and that's what important.

    A new candidate for the team is Matt Costello, I like this player.
    He is almost ideal player for Kattash. Good shooter, good PnR, good post game, great rebounding. Problem is his slow footwork, so we would have same embarrassing penetrations + lay ups, as this whole season. His perimeter defence is also not very good, so Kattash beloved switches would be as effective (i.e. disastrous) as with Poythress sometimes. I am not entirely convinced to be honest. There is also question of buyout, because he has a contract in Basconia until next year.

    Yalla Maccabi!!!

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    • Panathinaikos, the season has just ended (at last), the new GM is officially Becirovic.

      Regarding the foreigners no one will stay, perhaps an exception could be made for Grigonis or M.Thomas (one of the two). So at least 6 new foreigners will be signed.

      Greeks, Bohoridis and G.Kalaintzakis out, it remains to be seen what is going to happen with Papagiannis.

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      • Originally posted by ronmercer80 View Post
        Panathinaikos, the season has just ended (at last), the new GM is officially Becirovic.

        Regarding the foreigners no one will stay, perhaps an exception could be made for Grigonis or M.Thomas (one of the two). So at least 6 new foreigners will be signed.

        Greeks, Bohoridis and G.Kalaintzakis out, it remains to be seen what is going to happen with Papagiannis.
        Grigonis is less likely to stay, after the games against Olympiakos.
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        • Originally posted by tonia View Post

          Grigonis is less likely to stay, after the games against Olympiakos.
          He's still under contract, not sure how easy it will be to deal with this.
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          • Originally posted by paspalj View Post

            He's still under contract, not sure how easy it will be to deal with this.
            I really hope that he will stay but I believe that he wants to leave at any cost and he will find a way to do it , despite his "closed" contract.

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            • Dobric joins Bologna?

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              • So if Micic is gona stay(Larkin, Clyburn and Bryant will 99% be there), very serious roster without injuries like last season.

                Big question is if this clown Can could follow such characters in the team, still remember how Itoudis destroyed him in two games when Kokoskov was sidelined.

                He lost almost every big game in his short career. But he is good for regular season at least

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                • a bit too quick to label him, don't you think?

                  I agree it seems he's suffering from the same illness (i.e., lacking the winning mentality*) as many other Turkish coaches, but he's a good student. Efes can sacrifice a season or two if they believe this is a good investment.

                  *Ataman is the winner, and I expect him to return to Efes at some point in the future.
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                  • Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
                    Ataman is the winner, and I expect him to return to Efes at some point in the future.
                    Why did Ataman really leave Efes? Because of the money that PAO offered him?

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                    • Originally posted by tonia View Post
                      Why did Ataman really leave Efes? Because of the money that PAO offered him?
                      No, because he thinks he's the best solution for the dead teams. It's a kind of motivation, he call this; challenge. He could be wright, or not... we'll see.

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                      • Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
                        a bit too quick to label him, don't you think?

                        I agree it seems he's suffering from the same illness (i.e., lacking the winning mentality*) as many other Turkish coaches, but he's a good student. Efes can sacrifice a season or two if they believe this is a good investment.

                        *Ataman is the winner, and I expect him to return to Efes at some point in the future.
                        With this roster Efes doesn't have luxury to waste season or two in waiting some kid grow as a coach

                        You know how difficult is in today shallow market bringing high profile players and Efes has 3 or even four of them. For such roster Pascual for instance was worth of much harder shoot then Efes did as I know

                        Scenario you mentioned was more suitable when Larkin, Micic and Clyburn leave, then Can could start from the scratch building new team and probably waste year or two.

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                        • Panathinaikos wants punter,exum,papapetroy and lessort from partizan.

                          Punter is a must
                          Im not such a big fan of exum cause he is not a pg. However with vildoza they can make a good duo in the point guards. Punter and another one (dorsey?) will be a good sg duo to make a very good backcourt with exum and vildoza. Of course so far only vildoza is done, will probably be the first to be announced when serbian league is over.

                          Papapetrou is also a must cause we need greeks. A must, but not with the role he had before he left. Now he will need to be a backup forward. Hezonja is the main target for the forwards. With a backcourt like the one i wrote above im sure that mantzoukas will step up next year cause all these guys will create huge opportunities for people in the corners and mantzoukas is great from these spots. He must improve his game with the ball though.

                          I disagree that lessort should get a lot of money. He is not that young and his previous euroleague seasons were bad or at least mediocre. There are hundreds of athletic big guys in the nba



                          The first one we should get rid of is grigonis. He was better in cycling behind the bench than actually playing the game. He can go back to zalgiris, he proved that he cant be the main offensive guy for any team+his defence is terrible
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                          • Originally posted by saras View Post
                            Panathinaikos wants punter,exum,papapetroy and lessort from partizan.

                            Punter is a must
                            Im not such a big fan of exum cause he is not a pg. However with vildoza they can make a good duo in the point guards. Punter and another one (dorsey?) will be a good sg duo to make a very good backcourt with exum and vildoza. Of course so far only vildoza is done, will probably be the first to be announced when serbian league is over.

                            Papapetrou is also a must cause we need greeks. A must, but not with the role he had before he left. Now he will need to be a backup forward. Hezonja is the main target for the forwards. With a backcourt like the one i wrote above im sure that mantzoukas will step up next year cause all these guys will create huge opportunities for people in the corners and mantzoukas is great from these spots. He must improve his game with the ball though.

                            I disagree that lessort should get a lot of money. He is not that young and his previous euroleague seasons were bad or at least mediocre. There are hundreds of athletic big guys in the nba



                            The first one we should get rid of is grigonis. He was better in cycling behind the bench than actually playing the game. He can go back to zalgiris, he proved that he cant be the main offensive guy for any team+his defence is terrible
                            Punter, Vildoza and Dorsey? How do you intend to defend?

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                            • Originally posted by Toruko View Post

                              Punter, Vildoza and Dorsey? How do you intend to defend?
                              There will be one more guard, for example exum. But apart from that, there are also some people called forwards to defend if needed. How did monaco defend this season with james, okobo and the other guards? How was csska defending with even worse defenders than those you mentioned during the teodosic, de colo era?

                              And its 2023, games are won by offense. The only ones that keep talking about defence are some idiot greeks, fans of pedoulakis or the so called "greek coaching philosophy". And when our NT gets raped by spain or serbia they wonder why that keeps on happening even though spain plays with abalde or some random eurocup players.
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                              • Originally posted by saras View Post

                                There will be one more guard, for example exum. But apart from that, there are also some people called forwards to defend if needed. How did monaco defend this season with james, okobo and the other guards? How was csska defending with even worse defenders than those you mentioned during the teodosic, de colo era?

                                And its 2023, games are won by offense. The only ones that keep talking about defence are some idiot greeks, fans of pedoulakis or the so called "greek coaching philosophy". And when our NT gets raped by spain or serbia they wonder why that keeps on happening even though spain plays with abalde or some random eurocup players.
                                Exum would suit well in the mix but if you want a working team with these 3 you have to have a rim protecting big. With Papagiannis this will not work for sure. Teo and de Colo were covered up by a very solid big rotation with strong rebounding and defending bigs.

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