European Competitions 2023/24 - Signings & Rumours

[paspalj]

I find it very hard to ditch Vildoza and Juancho. Teams will be like “I’ll pay max 200k for them, Pao can suck it and pay the rest”. Also although Juancho underperforms I don’t want him to leave. I think he can offer a lot and I’m optimistic that he’ll be way more valuable in his second year.

How is my part confusing lol

I’m sorry I might be reading this wrong but I still find it confusing I do agree with your conclusions though.

[saras]

PANATHINAIKOS should get hezonja, micic or another top combo guard and tavares or another good center. Theiss is also good. Even poirier is good and will help where we have problem (rim protection).

Sloukas-grant
Micic-nunn
Cyclist-hezonja-Papapetrou
Juancho-Mitoglou (still consider juancho a great player much better than mitoglou. Maybe if vezenkov comes back things change here)
Lessort-Poirier-Antetokunbo (both lessort and poirier are better than tavares this season)

Giannakopoulos said the roster will be better than 2009 and the budget will be the number 1 in the league next season. The initial plan was 100m for 3 years after ataman was announced

[coinho]

PANATHINAIKOS should get hezonja, micic or another top combo guard and tavares or another good center. Theiss is also good. Even poirier is good and will help where we have problem (rim protection).

Sloukas-grant
Micic-nunn
Cyclist-hezonja-Papapetrou
Juancho-Mitoglou (still consider juancho a great player much better than mitoglou. Maybe if vezenkov comes back things change here)
Lessort-Poirier-Antetokunbo (both lessort and poirier are better than tavares this season)

Giannakopoulos said the roster will be better than 2009 and the budget will be the number 1 in the league next season. The initial plan was 100m for 3 years after ataman was announced

No way that Juancho is "much better" then Mitoglou..
Mitoglou is two class above Juancho, Juancho is one of the biggest flops this season.. And Mitoglou as domestic player is pure gold for Panathinaikos..

[Edgar]

I agree Juancho should stay. His contribution in the defense is huge even though he plays 10-15 mins. There is no way he can get any rhythm in the offense when Ataman put him on the bench after 1 missed shot. When Mitoglou was injured Juancho played great. Then everything changed when he broke finger, Mitoglou started to play great and now it's problem to get back in the rotation. I think he can have great season like Peters does this season. He just needs chance. On the other hand Vildoza is crackhead and I don't want him to stay. If we can ship him somewhere that's great. He had much more chances to prove himself than Juancho and he was horrible. Also always injured.

If Nunn stays I think it would be crazy to sign Micic (I don't think he will be available and I think he will stay in the Hornets). Nunn, Sloukas, Micic, Grant...that's too much for me as everyone needs 20-25 mins. I would rather have someone like Dorsey or Howard(I don't believe in this but it would be great). Someone who can become crazy hot in 10-15 mins. But since it's Ataman and his well known short rotation I would rather have Dorsey. Ofc, if Nunn doesn't stay then I would want Micic or Howard. Hopefully he will stay.

I think SF position is crucial. If we can get Hezonja for starting SF with Lithuanian Cyclist as 2nd SF that would be awesome...Papapetrou for me is just not the player for Ataman. Maybe if he stays in the corner whole game but then he should play PF. Ataman through his whole career likes small forwards or plays guards at that position who can create and shoot. Papapetrou is just not that. His passport is saving him.

Aborut C, ofc Tavares would be wet dream even though Lessort would suffer a lot but I would be much more than happy if Poirier joins. Or someone who can stretch the floor like Voigtmann(I think with C who stays on the 3pt line would mean Nunn or Hezonja would have feast in the paint).

Nunn-Sloukas-Moraitis
Grant-Dorsey-Kalaitzakis
Hezonja-Grigonis
Mitoglou-Juancho
Lessort-Poirier-Kostas A

This team would be crazy good. Everything better than this (Tavares, Micic...) is just even better.

[Levenspiel]

Why is Micic mentioned as a possible signing? I thought there was no chance he was coming back within his three years contract period. (I know we thought the same for a few others).

[Edgar]

Why is Micic mentioned as a possible signing? I thought there was no chance he was coming back within his three years contract period. (I know we thought the same for a few others).

I have no idea also lol. He plays regularly, plays great and coach likes him. Also Hornets are horrible and will be next season also. He will be backup for LaMelo.

[paspalj]

Why is Micic mentioned as a possible signing? I thought there was no chance he was coming back within his three years contract period. (I know we thought the same for a few others).

In one of his ramblings DPG said that Pao is interested in a player that “Oly remembers well” (something along those lines) so speculation brought Micic and his dagger in the F4. Sometimes, you know, something is being said and then it becomes like uncontrollable fire with people just parroting what they saw/heard.

[Edgar]

I know it's not EL but Kevin Porter Jr. signed for PAOK looooooool
i am very curious to see that. I think his NBA career is done. He might be available for the EL teams next season or he goes to China. He is crackhead but also capable to average HUGE numbers in the EL if he actually cares.

[Toruko]

I know it's not EL but Kevin Porter Jr. signed for PAOK looooooool
i am very curious to see that. I think his NBA career is done. He might be available for the EL teams next season or he goes to China. He is crackhead but also capable to average HUGE numbers in the EL if he actually cares.

A very problematic character but insanely talented.

[paspalj]

I know it's not EL but Kevin Porter Jr. signed for PAOK looooooool
i am very curious to see that. I think his NBA career is done. He might be available for the EL teams next season or he goes to China. He is crackhead but also capable to average HUGE numbers in the EL if he actually cares.

Yeah I’m not excited about guys that beat up their partners. I don’t care how talented they are.

[Edgar]

Same, but at the end she stayed with him. And it's not like she has to be with him because she doesn't have any other option. She is very pretty and famous so who the hell knows what happened there even though he was always problematic. But if he really tries and wants to play I can see someone signing him in the EL next season where, I repeat, if he cares then he can be MVP without any problem.

[paspalj]

Same, but at the end she stayed with him. And it's not like she has to be with him because she doesn't have any other option. L

That shouldn’t matter though? Many people don’t know better and stay in abusive situations, it’s not always about having a way out. Like, if you grew up in an abusive household and you think this is what normal love looks like then…yeah you won’t leave. Anyway this is a huge discussion about the psychology of victims of abuse and I won’t get into it in interbasket but anyway…not a fan of the guy.

[coinho]

Kevin Porter Jr and PAOK official.
Crazy and unexpected..
Btw, PAOK annunciaton was interesting

[Edgar]

That shouldn’t matter though? Many people don’t know better and stay in abusive situations, it’s not always about having a way out. Like, if you grew up in an abusive household and you think this is what normal love looks like then…yeah you won’t leave. Anyway this is a huge discussion about the psychology of victims of abuse and I won’t get into it in interbasket but anyway…not a fan of the guy.

Look, he was arrested. She had situation where he could go in the jail if he actually did that. She came and attacked everyone and said they all lie and that he literally didn't touch her. Guilty or not, she made the choice.
I really don't care anymore after that. Personally I don't like him but I won't judge him based on that. Obradovic killed woman with the car and he was some laughable time in the jail and everyone loves him...

[paspalj]

Obradovic killed woman with the car and he was some laughable time in the jail and everyone loves him...

This is a widely different case but whatever. I’m not going to argue for a person I don’t know. I’m just happy he’s not on my team.