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  • Originally posted by Jazz View Post
    All these rumours about Dubai joining the Euroleague next season... and people still think Calathes won't get another big deal.
    I actually follow sometimes Gulf League and there plays Al Shabab from Dubai. It' basically BCL for Asia divided in multiple parts depending of the location. And anyway I didn't see one game with more than 500 people in the stands. And those who were in the stands were mostly foreigners. It's such a shame to do something like this. They should bring San Miguel Beerman and Xinjiang Flying Tigers also

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    • Originally posted by Edgar View Post

      I actually follow sometimes Gulf League and there plays Al Shabab from Dubai. It' basically BCL for Asia divided in multiple parts depending of the location. And anyway I didn't see one game with more than 500 people in the stands. And those who were in the stands were mostly foreigners. It's such a shame to do something like this. They should bring San Miguel Beerman and Xinjiang Flying Tigers also
      That's interesting.
      This Dubai team will likely have the budget to sign the best Euroleague free agents.

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      • Originally posted by Jazz View Post

        That's interesting.
        This Dubai team will likely have the budget to sign the best Euroleague free agents.
        Calathes can have 20 big contracts as long as the gulf Arabs bring money.

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        • Dubai will enter but i read somewhere they will force them having a normal budget and also play in another league like ABA. they will probably bring many players from USA, who dont care about playing in europe or china or anywhere else apart from the NBA. whether that's dubai or real madrid doesnt matter for them as long as its not nba. they cant attract many players already playing in euroleague i think apart from americans or other like calathes that are on their last years and may get another big contract
          Sasa Pukl for MVP

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          • If Pao can bring a player like Nunn who is so good for Europe but borderline for the NBA I bet that Dubai teams will be able to be stacked with “Nunn”-level talent. We’ll see how that works out.
            3rd, Euroleague IBN prediction game 2019

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            • Originally posted by Jazz View Post

              That's interesting.
              This Dubai team will likely have the budget to sign the best Euroleague free agents.
              I am actually not that convinced this is going to happen. When you look let say their football league there isn't a lot of stars. Actually they have a plan in football to sign young Brazilian guys literally when they are 17, 18 and move them to their academies. There are a lot of bunch unknown foreign players. And football is 50x bigger in UAE than basketball. They care only about money and EL is not profitable league. So it doesn't make any sense to me that they will throw 40, 50M euros per year for the budget+13M for the clubs with the licence and all other expenses for the sport that literally no one cares about in the UAE. I know 2 local people from UAE who are businessman and every 2nd word from them is "money". We will see, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if their project is something like Valencia, Asvel or even Darussafaka when they entered EL with that pretty average team.

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              • Originally posted by Edgar View Post

                I am actually not that convinced this is going to happen. When you look let say their football league there isn't a lot of stars. Actually they have a plan in football to sign young Brazilian guys literally when they are 17, 18 and move them to their academies. There are a lot of bunch unknown foreign players. And football is 50x bigger in UAE than basketball. They care only about money and EL is not profitable league. So it doesn't make any sense to me that they will throw 40, 50M euros per year for the budget+13M for the clubs with the licence and all other expenses for the sport that literally no one cares about in the UAE. I know 2 local people from UAE who are businessman and every 2nd word from them is "money". We will see, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if their project is something like Valencia, Asvel or even Darussafaka when they entered EL with that pretty average team.
                Good points. I was making a bit of an assumption about their budget.
                And I love your references to that Darussafaka team. Mediocrity that should never be forgotten.

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                • some darussafaka 2016-2017 players:

                  scottie wilbekin, brad wanamaker, dairis bertans, james anderson, will clyburn, adrien moermann, luke harangody, marcus slaughter, ante zizic.

                  lost the play-off 3-1 against real madrid…

                  calling this team mediocre is unfair.

                  darussafaka project came to the end because dogus group became sponsor to fenerbahce after ulker.
                  Republic of FENERBAHÇE

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                  • Originally posted by iskoch View Post
                    some darussafaka 2016-2017 players:

                    scottie wilbekin, brad wanamaker, dairis bertans, james anderson, will clyburn, adrien moermann, luke harangody, marcus slaughter, ante zizic.

                    lost the play-off 3-1 against real madrid…

                    calling this team mediocre is unfair.

                    darussafaka project came to the end because dogus group became sponsor to fenerbahce after ulker.
                    I think Edgar and myself are thinking more of the 2015-16 team, which was definitely a notch below the roster in 2016-17. And remember how they ended up paying Erwin Dudley to be a "practice player"?

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                    • Originally posted by Jazz View Post

                      I think Edgar and myself are thinking more of the 2015-16 team, which was definitely a notch below the roster in 2016-17. And remember how they ended up paying Erwin Dudley to be a "practice player"?
                      Yup. The team with Arslan, Redding, Preldzic, Gordon, Harangody, Erden... I saw that then and never again a team with 17 players of the same quality - average/below average.

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                      • according to marca from spain we have already made an offer to tavares (3m/year) and to hezonja (2m/year). by the way, these numbers are the players' salary, taxes are not paid by them like they do in spain, so for tavares to earn 3m in real, means something like 5 million that real needs to offer (i think tax is 40% or something like that? not sure though).
                        article in greek https://www.sdna.gr/mpasket/1159661_...i-ston-hezonia

                        also we are talking with nunn to find out if he wants to stay next season. he brought his family and looking for school for his son and he says he is happy so far. i think we can renew him with some nba out clause until some point at summer. if we fail to renew him, we will of course go for another scorer, for example larkin or micic or someone expensive. we also have vildoza, if he doesnt improve i think he will be replaced as well

                        sloukas-grant
                        micic-nunn-dorsey
                        hezonja-papapetrou
                        juancho-mitoglou
                        tavares-lessort-antetokunbo

                        this could be a good roster
                        Sasa Pukl for MVP

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                        • Originally posted by saras View Post
                          according to marca from spain we have already made an offer to tavares (3m/year) and to hezonja (2m/year). by the way, these numbers are the players' salary, taxes are not paid by them like they do in spain, so for tavares to earn 3m in real, means something like 5 million that real needs to offer (i think tax is 40% or something like that? not sure though).
                          article in greek https://www.sdna.gr/mpasket/1159661_...i-ston-hezonia

                          also we are talking with nunn to find out if he wants to stay next season. he brought his family and looking for school for his son and he says he is happy so far. i think we can renew him with some nba out clause until some point at summer. if we fail to renew him, we will of course go for another scorer, for example larkin or micic or someone expensive. we also have vildoza, if he doesnt improve i think he will be replaced as well

                          sloukas-grant
                          micic-nunn-dorsey
                          hezonja-papapetrou
                          juancho-mitoglou
                          tavares-lessort-antetokunbo

                          this could be a good roster
                          You know Lithuanian cyclist is staying 100%
                          It's same like Simon in the Efes. Ataman likes him and that's it and he plays perfectly. I also think Nunn will probably stay in the Europe. He will be 29 before next season and I have big doubts he will find what is he looking for in the NBA even though I think he realized he can't get big contract there anymore but he can get really nice contract here and in the NBA he is done and can only be maybe 3rd PG in the team.

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                          • Zvezda sign Javonte Smart.

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                            • Nedovic is the best CZ player(maybe even in EL together with Larkin), so it won't be easy 4 weeks without him

                              Good for CZ is easy schedule next 5 games, but it will mostly depend of Teo

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                              • Originally posted by janketa View Post
                                Nedovic is the best CZ player(maybe even in EL together with Larkin), so it won't be easy 4 weeks without him

                                Good for CZ is easy schedule next 5 games, but it will mostly depend of Teo
                                You are bigger fan of Nedovic than his wife.

                                Joke aside, the fact is that injuries affect the season for most teams except Real and Barca.

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