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EL2022-23 game day 22 & 23 (double week)

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  • EL2022-23 game day 22 & 23 (double week)

    Another double week underway.
    5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.

  • #2
    It's amazing the difference between Fener right now vs the initial weeks of the season.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jazz View Post
      It's amazing the difference between Fener right now vs the initial weeks of the season.
      Playing this way and still high at standings.. If Fener keeps energy for the quarter-finals and improves significantly then, this would be an interesting approach

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      • #4
        Calathes and Guduric look horrible.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by janketa View Post
          I don't care anymore if Fener will win or lose, what's a difference? We are not contender for anything

          Bunch of streetballers without skillset, basic basketball knowledge, shooting etc. Clowns like Melih and Edwards. Overated Koskoskov's boy pierre or Hayes , 3rd level small foerwards not even EC lebel

          Just centers are more or less ok

          Itoudis made poor job with roster selection, even worse then Kokoskov. This is my last post about Fener for this season

          They are disaster, idiots, clowns. Our decline started when Koc replaced our old good president who brought us a title. We are not powerhouse anymore.
          I will quote myself from the period we were 1st in the standings

          I don't even watch games anymore

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          • #6
            Oly play the game in my opinion very different from all the rest. This constant movement and multiple threat to the basket and the passing game with closed eyes cannot be done like Olympiacos does. At the moment he is playing a basketball that seems to have a lot of influences from the NBA (Celtics and Heat are very similar in the way they play) but without as much iso as they have there and this is logical as in the NBA there are solo players offensively that in the Euroleague they simply cannot even come close to that. It seems that the coach has managed to put these elements together and the result so far is an amazing basket that is also combined with the result!
            I am convinced that Oly is the best team in the Euroleague this year but due to the Euroleague elimination system in F4 anything can happen and Efes remain the most dangerous team since its players are more confident in those situations.
            Whatever happens in the season, what matters to us fans of the team, is that coach B has built a team that we are happy to see and that is enough.

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            • #7
              The whole Euroleague looks disastrous. The lack of talent is evident. Past stars are getting old, present stars and solid players are all in Nba, and probably the most disturbing thing, anyone young with a half of a talent goes directly in Nba too. Europe becoming dump yard for below average Americans.

              Fener was doomed at the moment, when they brought Calathes. Btw. is shooting FTs 36%, some kind of a record?
              previously known as Beno

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post
                The whole Euroleague looks disastrous. The lack of talent is evident. Past stars are getting old, present stars and solid players are all in Nba, and probably the most disturbing thing, anyone young with a half of a talent goes directly in Nba too. Europe becoming dump yard for below average Americans.

                Fener was doomed at the moment, when they brought Calathes. Btw. is shooting FTs 36%, some kind of a record?
                At least, Calathes has 40% in 3pts! Not bad at all!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tonia View Post
                  At least, Calathes has 40% in 3pts! Not bad at all!
                  Do you believe that Calathes averaging 1 3-pointer per game helps Fener? No opponent's coach cares, if he hit his 3 or not, he's just unplayable in half court offense.
                  previously known as Beno

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post
                    Do you believe that Calathes averaging 1 3-pointer per game helps Fener? No opponent's coach cares, if he hit his 3 or not, he's just unplayable in half court offense.
                    Maybe he is not this efficient in scoring, but I believe that he runs the court very well and he is excellent in passing the ball.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tonia View Post
                      Maybe he is not this efficient in scoring, but I believe that he runs the court very well and he is excellent in passing the ball.
                      Basketball is all about spacing nowadays and he kills spacing like no other guard.
                      previously known as Beno

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                      • #12
                        This time I am angry with Katash, ok the game without L.Brown was considered a prohibitive one but why does he keep throwing away his timeouts? As it has already happened against Pana he stops the game after a single bad action by his players. This is stupid and helps your opponent, mistakes can happen, if the team performs well there's no reason to call a timeout. Saras exploited it great saying thanks a lot.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Killer Bob View Post
                          Do you believe that Calathes averaging 1 3-pointer per game helps Fener? No opponent's coach cares, if he hit his 3 or not, he's just unplayable in half court offense.
                          yeah I agree on this one.

                          Despite the over-excitement of so many Fener fans, I was expecting him to be unplayable during the playoffs, but he's already there since the Xmas. Age does not help, and with such a heavy workload, he looks gassed.

                          the biggest issue for Fener in my humble uneducated opinion is that they totally miss contribution from Hayes-Davis & Pierre, both defensively and offensively.
                          5 out 6 scientists say Russian roulette is safe.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
                            yeah I agree on this one.



                            the biggest issue for Fener in my humble uneducated opinion is that they totally miss contribution from Hayes-Davis & Pierre, both defensively and offensively.
                            As always you are the only one(except me) who notice true and obvious problems. Both of those two are clowns. Bottom of the small forwards list in EL. one of the worst. Almost every team has better forwards

                            I would add Willbekin to the list, not because he is bad player, but because expectations were so high(including milion buyout) to be leader and star. I knew from the start he is just EC level player, overated for 3 games in Dacka's champion year, especially in Munich . Calathes has better 3pt percentage then him, what a blow for Gator's favorite

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                            • #15
                              At this age we cant see Calathes as a guy who you can build around, so if he is you best or second best guy you are doomed.

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