Euroleague/Club Competition 2019-20: Signings & Rumours - vol. I

[vivo]

@janketa: Will there be fans in Ulker Arena in Friday? I read first 3.500 then no at all?

The first half of the season (for now) will be without fans in the Turkish league.

https://www.fenerbahce.org/haberler/basketbol-erkek/2020/9/basketbolda-sezonun-ilk-yarisi-seyircisiz-oynanacak

[Jazz]

He said something like "Because my people are being killed by police in the US." (no joke).

Not just his basketball talent seems to be underdeveloped. I don't know which kind of bet has been lost by our sports director or what kind of lobby is standing behind Kiefer but this would have been really uncompatible to the basketball Obradovic plays. Undersized, not physical, ballhog. A prime receipe to contract termination in december. We are no team with Nando de Colo's and Mike James' nor should we be but what is too much is too much for our nerves.

Interesting. It seemed like a surprising decision because of the effect of Covid on the free agency market.

And yeah, he didn't seem like an obvious fit for your team.

[Katastroika]

Ha.
Serious question though- any clue why he turned Zvezda down in favour of a shorter term contract elsewhere?

He said something like "Because my people are being killed by police in the US." (no joke).

Not just his basketball talent seems to be underdeveloped. I don't know which kind of bet has been lost by our sports director or what kind of lobby is standing behind Kiefer but this would have been really uncompatible to the basketball Obradovic plays. Undersized, not physical, ballhog. A prime receipe to contract termination in december. We are no team with Nando de Colo's and Mike James' nor should we be but what is too much is too much for our nerves.

[Jazz]

btw...I hope my boy Levenspiel will show up soon to discuss with me zvezda's (luckily) not inked transfer with Keifer Sykes

Ha.
Serious question though- any clue why he turned Zvezda down in favour of a shorter term contract elsewhere?

[Katastroika]

The the most significant thing in Fener this season is that we have after many years true pg who is btw great so far.
finally
Regarding Biberovic, we talked about him many times and conclusion is that he lacked games in previous two seasons. Finally he got a chance to play BSL games and now it's up to him how he will use it. It's big difference between chances that Obra gave to him in EL games under pressure and this games. If he continue to improve I expect him in second part of the season as regular participant of EL games. In opposite case he is just one more stupid kid who didn't use great chance to make something big in his career.

I am surprised by the comments about Ulanovas because I see other fans here share my opinion that he is clumsy and mediocre player. But, as long as Kokoskov controls situation and doesn't repeat Obradovic mistakes with Kalinic and Williams Ulanovas won't be problem for us. As role player he can be useful, overpayed but not too much dangerous for our system. In case he start to make heroic things on court like Kalinic did in many games he could be big problem

Ironically Kalinic looks very good in Valencia and does exactly the things you all wanted him to do. Shoot exclusively open 3s, rebound and attack exclusively with back to the basket

@janketa: Will there be fans in Ulker Arena in Friday? I read first 3.500 then no at all?

btw...I hope my boy Levenspiel will show up soon to discuss with me zvezda's (luckily) not inked transfer with Keifer Sykes

[janketa]

The the most significant thing in Fener this season is that we have after many years true pg who is btw great so far.
finally
Regarding Biberovic, we talked about him many times and conclusion is that he lacked games in previous two seasons. Finally he got a chance to play BSL games and now it's up to him how he will use it. It's big difference between chances that Obra gave to him in EL games under pressure and this games. If he continue to improve I expect him in second part of the season as regular participant of EL games. In opposite case he is just one more stupid kid who didn't use great chance to make something big in his career.

I am surprised by the comments about Ulanovas because I see other fans here share my opinion that he is clumsy and mediocre player. But, as long as Kokoskov controls situation and doesn't repeat Obradovic mistakes with Kalinic and Williams Ulanovas won't be problem for us. As role player he can be useful, overpayed but not too much dangerous for our system. In case he start to make heroic things on court like Kalinic did in many games he could be big problem

[edvinas9]

Lauvergne must be the biggest steal so far this off-season. He got his NBA speed back and he deffo improved his passing skills.

[arelg]

OFFICIAL!

BIG BIG SIGNING

[Toruko]

OK Efes got stuck a bit in the first half because of bad spacing against Gala but they made clear who is the boss in the third quarter. Kruno Simon and Micic great contribution. Especially Micics P&R abilities are superb. Great development of Saybir on the other hand. He is developing as expected and i expect him to take some minutes even in Euroleague.

[Toruko]

Thank you, found it. For me incredible that this good league has no better site. It's worse than most semi-class leagues in Europe.

Well, actually, they renewed everything. Its by far not perfect but I like their system. You can find any information that you want. Its consists more and therefore it looks complicated but you get used to it after a while.

[Katastroika]

Thank you, found it. For me incredible that this good league has no better site. It's worse than most semi-class leagues in Europe.

[Toruko]

Is there any boxscore for Super League games from Turkey? There used to be a site, is it offline?

https://www.tbf.org.tr/

There is a writing about filtering "KAPSAM DEĞİŞTİR" and "tüm maclar" (all games). If you choose ING BSL then you can find links to the BSL games. All boxscores in the current week.

[Katastroika]

Is there any boxscore for Super League games from Turkey? There used to be a site, is it offline?

[vivo]

Vesely managed again to injure himself in trash time but I dont know how severe. He was limping. Great first game of Brown. I like him more and more. Mahmutoglu seems to be sharp as always. Biberovic despite having a great game in the second half looks even stronger. He can easily take all power forwards. The opponent was weak but he showed some good awareness, cuts and made the right choices.

Ulanovas didnt look very solid. Vesely had also very early 4 fouls. Düverioglu is still not an option

Other than Vesely's foul problem (sigh) and Ulanovas' clumsy play overall we were good. Despite not having critical players like Eddie and Hamilton we completely dominated when it mattered. I liked Biberovic doing the right things especially. On the other hand I think Ormanspor has some good players but they were so out of sync. Due to lack of prep games maybe.

I think Vesely injury shouldn't be too bad, it looked like a Grade 2 sprain at worst, knocking on wood.

[Toruko]

Vesely managed again to injure himself in trash time but I dont know how severe. He was limping. Great first game of Brown. I like him more and more. Mahmutoglu seems to be sharp as always. Biberovic despite having a great game in the second half looks even stronger. He can easily take all power forwards. The opponent was weak but he showed some good awareness, cuts and made the right choices.

Ulanovas didnt look very solid. Vesely had also very early 4 fouls. Düverioglu is still not an option