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      • Originally posted by Jon_Koncak View Post
        Westerman-Sloukas-De Colo-Dixon.Who the hell is gonna play any defense on this backcourt.

        CSKA signing Voigtman,Strelnieks and Hillard.Those are moves of a fridge top 8 team not the champion after they lost their 3 best players.
        While I admit our backcourt isn't even close to intimidating on defense, we're doing ok until losing Vesely and Lauvergne. Melli and Ahmet wasn't able to close the gaps. Now we'll probably change Guduric with Westermann, which doesn't change much.

        I am still waiting for some stars to CSKA, as far as I know they didn't cut the budget.
        Dilimde şarkıların gündüz gece
        Deli gibi aşığız Fenerbahçe
        Bu dünyayı yakarız senin için
        Şampiyonluk gelince

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        • Originally posted by vivo View Post

          I am still waiting for some stars to CSKA, as far as I know they didn't cut the budget.
          They unleashed around 4 milions after De Colo and Higgins left, but I think Clyburn salary is higher then previous season and they brought three new players. That is maybe 2.5 milions spent from those 4 milions. So if budget is the same they don't have enough money for star players. But with CSKA you never know

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          • Originally posted by janketa View Post
            They unleashed around 4 milions after De Colo and Higgins left, but I think Clyburn salary is higher then previous season and they brought three new players. That is maybe 2.5 milions spent from those 4 milions. So if budget is the same they don't have enough money for star players. But with CSKA you never know
            Don't worry, they have enough money. The question is - are there enough stars left?

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            • I think both Westermann and Rubit are good signings.

              Fener though will have issues imho in defense. Vesely is not nearly as good in defense as you think. He was a sieve versus Micic & Larkin. Once the perimeter guy was beaten, he could not stop any drives. Udoh could, but it's old story now.
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              • Originally posted by MrRager View Post
                Don't worry, they have enough money. The question is - are there enough stars left?
                Many good signings happen towards September in the EL (Udoh & Larkin come to mind). There is time.
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                • Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
                  I think both Westermann and Rubit are good signings.

                  Fener though will have issues imho in defense. Vesely is not nearly as good in defense as you think. He was a sieve versus Micic & Larkin. Once the perimeter guy was beaten, he could not stop any drives. Udoh could, but it's old story now.
                  Fener had always problems with Guards, who decide very quickly.

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                  • Originally posted by MrRager View Post
                    Don't worry, they have enough money. The question is - are there enough stars left?
                    Yup, they can always buy players from NBA with their gigantic budget, just like Barça and Real can. But as you say, there aren't star players left on the europe, they need to keep Rodriguez, especially after losing De Colo and Higgins at the same time. Clyburn can't carry CSKA by himself. De Colo and Rodriguez, Higgins carried the team, Clyburn was the scorer they needed. And now they lost 2 main components out of 3.

                    A player who never played in Europe before is a risk for CSKA. If I were their Gm, I wouldn't let Rodriguez go and I would go for Larkin. Strelnieks can't be more than a back-up guard for them, the guy couldn't even carry Oly to the playoffs, what he could do on a F4 level team like CSKA.
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                    • Alex Perez should come to Žalgiris. Watched couple of Banvit games this season. Opinion I made about him - pretty high Basketball IQ, decent shooter, an OK driver and defender, but he lacks more strength in order to be better slasher and defender. Is it true?

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                      • Originally posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
                        Yup, they can always buy players from NBA with their gigantic budget, just like Barça and Real can. But as you say, there aren't star players left on the europe, they need to keep Rodriguez, especially after losing De Colo and Higgins at the same time. Clyburn can't carry CSKA by himself. De Colo and Rodriguez, Higgins carried the team, Clyburn was the scorer they needed. And now they lost 2 main components out of 3.

                        A player who never played in Europe before is a risk for CSKA. If I were their Gm, I wouldn't let Rodriguez go and I would go for Larkin. Strelnieks can't be more than a back-up guard for them, the guy couldn't even carry Oly to the playoffs, what he could do on a F4 level team like CSKA.
                        Well because he was injured after the last qualification game against Montenegro and they had to play with Mantzaris.

                        But your right he is just a good shooter and rest is more average.

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                        • Originally posted by Levenspiel View Post
                          I think both Westermann and Rubit are good signings.

                          Fener though will have issues imho in defense. Vesely is not nearly as good in defense as you think. He was a sieve versus Micic & Larkin. Once the perimeter guy was beaten, he could not stop any drives. Udoh could, but it's old story now.
                          Most players were the same, as well as Barça and CSKA, they also couldn't stop Larkin too, but CSKA beat Efes because unlike us they could score better with the help of Clyburn, De Colo and Higgins. Vesely alone is a huge block threat for the big guys and he is a good scorer and passer, if he is healthy things will be different. Buying De Colo after Guduric is a huge difference alone. Duverioglu failed to finish one-on-one positions from time to time, if Lauvergne is healthy and if he is going to play then he can finish those positions better. Datome too was missing in F4, who is our one of the most important scoring options, our problem was at offense I think, not on defense.
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                          • Originally posted by Tevfik1907 View Post
                            Most players were the same, as well as Barça and CSKA, they also couldn't stop Larkin too, but CSKA beat Efes because unlike us they could score better with the help of Clyburn, De Colo and Higgins. Vesely alone is a huge block threat for the big guys and he is a good scorer and passer, if he is healthy things will be different. Buying De Colo after Guduric is a huge difference alone. Duverioglu failed to finish one-on-one positions from time to time, if Lauvergne is healthy and if he is going to play then he can finish those positions better. Datome too was missing in F4, who is our one of the most important scoring options, our problem was at offense I think, not on defense.
                            We will have situation on next F4, last year Fener + Datome, De Colo and Lauvergne. Guduric wasn't factor in F4 games so I won't even count him as a loss.

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                            • Panathinaikos BC are chasing Jimmer Fredette and offered him $1.750.000 (net) for the next season

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                              • Abrines is going to be the last signing for Barca. What about Pangos? Cuz if he leaves, they definitely will need a backup PG.

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