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  • qiangdade
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    Originally posted by berry View Post
    Khimki-Maccabi-Olympiakos-PAO(if he stays)-Baskonia.How can you take these teams out of the picture so lightly.And if you tie Obradovic future with Fener then there is also another parameter to consider:Turkish economy future doesnt seem so bright.
    Khimki that has never achieved anything and is on the verge of being swept by CSKA? Maccabi that has not reached a final four since 2014? Pao that has not reached a final four since 2012 and declares the're going to FIBA? Baskonia that has won nothing and are being swept by Obradovic??? Only Oly are legit in that group and not for much longer with Spanoulis and Print at the end of their careers. I am talking about a hypothetical era that started in 2016 anyway so they are all irrelevant.


    Not taking teams out of the picture, just coaches. I am talkign about the status quo. There's no indication at the moment that either Fener or CSKA will not have strong investors. If this changes, dynamics change also. But even if say Fener goes bankrupt and Obradovic has to go to another team it will surely be an economic powerhouse and Itoudis/Saras will gladlyl fill in the title gap.

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  • paspalj
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    Although I agree in principal with your theory the math doesn't really work out.

    Obradovic has 9 titles, so saying that he will win more in the next 10-15 years means that he ia going to be winning almost every year. Also if Itoudis and Saras are the only other ones that will win it in the next 20 years then their getting 5 each (at least)

    Although Obradovic, Itoudis and Saras will win it unboubtely, I believe you are overfitting. 20 years is a long time, and teams like Oly or Pao with a small bump in the budget will be able to named favorites.

    Moreover, you have teams like Barca, and Real, really big european teams that can easily become contenders with minor tweaks. Real is a contender this year too.

    Then you have to account for recent rich teams like Khimki that might be a surprise.

    So, all in all, I kind of agree, but not to the extent you analyzed

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  • berry
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    Khimki-Maccabi-Olympiakos-PAO(if he stays)-Baskonia.How can you take these teams out of the picture so lightly.And if you tie Obradovic future with Fener then there is also another parameter to consider:Turkish economy future doesnt seem so bright.

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  • qiangdade
    started a topic Have we just now entered the real Obradovic Era?

    Have we just now entered the real Obradovic Era?

    I have made a theory lately that we have just now entered the real Obradovic Era. An age that the Serbian coach will win the majority of all upcoming Euroleague titles. I am talking about percentage. If we count last season's EL title in he new Era he has the chance to win more titles within the next 10-15 years than in the past 25.

    In fact I believe that the next 20 years or so only three coaches will win the Euroleague: Obradovic, Itoudis, Saras. Assuming that the first two stay with their current teams and Saras goes to Barca. They are not only one level above their coaching competition, but several.

    The reasoning behind this is:

    - the "new" EL format. Obradovic' teams regularly suffered in short TOP 16 or playoff series. 2006, 2008, 2010 for example. I argue that with the current format Obradovic would have reached the final four in all three occasions.
    - The Euroleague is "bleeding" top players to the China and the NBA with the raised salary cap so it's harder for teams like Real with mediocre coaches and money to build super rosters capable of carrying themselves to the title.

    If this comes to be proven so in the next couple of years, it may mean that the new system along the lack of a salary cap will just render European basketball boring (for any other fan than Fener, CSKA and Barca).

    Just a thought. Would be interesting to know how you see it.
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