Eurobasket 2025

[Toruko]

Bet is who will average more points remember? 20pts+ wont be good enough,Sengun very likely will need 25pts average to be around Markanen average


Last 3 season in Jazz uniform Markanen averages in nba is 22,5pts .He is scoring machine and dont need to dominate the ball


Why exactly Markanen at 28 age should average under 20pts in 2025 eurobasket? when he had 27pts average pts in 2022.


Before tournament Markanen will be is top 3 bet to become leading eurobasket scorer knowing for what country he is playing and how manny looks he will get and what scoring skills he has.

You are making the mistake to believe that a player always get better with age. Look at Markkanens stats 2022 and now especially the 3 point percentage and volume.

20+ inclueds also 25 points or more. Incidently, I would consider myself confirmed when Markkanen had 25 points (wont happen) and Sengun 22 points since it is difficult to score in a competitive team with more scoring options. Anyway, it will be a fun tournament.

[Shawshank]

Bet is who will average more points remember? 20pts+ wont be good enough,Sengun very likely will need 25pts average to be around Markanen average


Last 3 season in Jazz uniform Markanen averages in nba is 22,5pts .He is scoring machine and dont need to dominate the ball


Why exactly Markanen at 28 age should average under 20pts in 2025 eurobasket? when he had 27pts average pts in 2022.


Before tournament Markanen will be is top 3 bet to become leading eurobasket scorer knowing for what country he is playing and how manny looks he will get and what scoring skills he has.

[Toruko]

Deal !

I feel confident that peaking 28 old Markkanen will be more dominated than 23 old Sengun in 2025 Eurobasket

But in scoring pts per game with Markanen playing for Finland 35minutes even Doncic and Giannis would have their hand full to keep up

I have just checked it up. Sengun with 20 had 16,5 points after three years and a better surrounding he will surpass the 20+ mark easily. I think 2022 was for Markannen an exception. He will make his points but he wont be that dominant. The Problem with Markkanen is he does not like contact. He always shies away. 20 points with 42% fgp and 36% from the three are not great percentages tbh.

[Shawshank]

Deal !

I feel confident that peaking 28 old Markkanen will be more dominated than 23 old Sengun in 2025 Eurobasket

But in scoring pts per game with Markanen playing for Finland 35minutes even Doncic and Giannis would have their hand full to keep up

[Toruko]

Markanen dont need to do no convincing. I can you tell right now he gonna average over 22+pts per game in eurobasket 2025

In Fiba basketball Markanenn style shooting big feels like fish in the water.


With Sengun he will have to show he can adapt to fiba better than Vucevic or Sabonis could.

Deal! I say Sengun will have better stats than Markannen. You say it will be the opposite.

[Shawshank]

Markanen dont need to do no convincing. I can you tell right now he gonna average over 22+pts per game in eurobasket 2025

In Fiba basketball Markanenn style shooting big feels like fish in the water.


With Sengun he will have to show he can adapt to fiba better than Vucevic or Sabonis could.

[Toruko]

2022 eurobasket leading scorers;

1.Giannis 29,3pts
2.Markannen 27,9pts
3.Vezenkov 26,8pts
4.Doncic 26,1pts
5.Schroder 22.1pts
6.N.Jokic 21.7pts

i wouldnt be so sure about Sengun being in top 5 in scoring because field will be loaded

I dont count Vezenkov and I doubt that Schroder is going to play such a dominant tournament again. Markannen this season does not convince me at all. We will see anyway in a couple of month.

[Shawshank]

2022 eurobasket leading scorers;

1.Giannis 29,3pts
2.Markannen 27,9pts
3.Vezenkov 26,8pts
4.Doncic 26,1pts
5.Schroder 22.1pts
6.N.Jokic 21.7pts

i wouldnt be so sure about Sengun being in top 5 in scoring because field will be loaded

[Shawshank]

Its comming from Turkish biased fan


In my 2025 list Sengun would be somewhere at 8-12th best fiba players list.But he still need to show me that he is real star in FIBA . Other players i named they already did.


Fiba is so rich with 20pts nba scorers in 2020s like they never before.


If international fans would play game lets draft for eurobasket 2025 best players Sengun name wouldnt be choosen atleast till 8th or 9th picks.


Markannen and Wagner would be taken before him by most international fans for 2025 fiba tournament.

[Toruko]

Fiba coaches fear Wagner or Markannen or Porzingis shooting type bigs way way more than those Sabonis,Sengun,Vucevic nba inside 20pts bigs in fiba game


Sengun didnt show nothing to me in fiba to be put in same category with Wagner,Porzingis or Markannen.


When Wagner,Porzingis,Markanne plays in fiba they are scary as hell to handle them

Sengun has various ways to score plus he wont struggle much from the international three point line. He is also not the 20 points guy. Houston just cant stretch the floor and Sengun has to work way more than others, thats all. Sengun should be the in the top five in scoring in Eurobasket. Push shot from the mid range, turn around fade away shot, creation with solid foot work. He is the next Gasol and hell start in Eurobasket 2025

[Shawshank]

Fiba coaches fear Wagner or Markannen or Porzingis shooting type bigs way way more than those Sabonis,Sengun,Vucevic nba inside 20pts bigs in fiba game


Sengun didnt show nothing to me in fiba to be put in same category with Wagner,Porzingis or Markannen.


When Wagner,Porzingis,Markanne plays in fiba they are scary as hell to handle them

[Shawshank]

Question was more about todays 5 best turkish players to judge their NT strenght because they didnt played in 2023 and 2024 summer


About best fiba 5players overall.

Jokic,Giannis,Doncic,Wemby,Shai is super tallents top 10 nba calibre dudes.They are like in diffrent category. Those 5 international players who would make USA A roster


Wagner,Bogdanovich impressed me alot in 2024 olympics from remaining fiba stars.

How they played in Olympics 2024 they easily be my choice over nba centers that always is less impactful in fiba for 5th and 6th best european todays list spots

[Toruko]

Nobody in 2021 saw this comming from Germany what run they had in 2022-2024.

Its not difficult to get a great team with two NBA guys and with solid Euroleague role players. They had Dennis Schroder who started using his brain after the 2019 FIBA WC and making his shot, then a great two way player like Franz Wagner, a shooting big like Moritz Wagner + many solid Euroleague guys and they keep developing great assets. They will also be a tough team to beat in the future. Replacing Schoder wont be easy though.

Italy looks on decline what i saw in 2024 summer.

I fully agree.

Croatia in 2024 summer looked way better than Slovenia did with Doncic.

Slovenia has washed up vets who are in deep decline in their careers. Doncic cant be everywhere. Croatia lacks a solid decision maker, they will always give a hard fight but fail somewhere in the 1/8 finals or 1/4.

Greece and Lithuanian havent made a semifinal like forever. At some point they gonna make it again.

Lithuania lacks star level players. Lithuanians always play with hard and solid attitude but fail in the last quarter, lack of quality players in the back court is the reason imo.

Greece is an interesting case. Giannis is 30 years old. The next tournament will be 2027 and the Olympic games 2028. He will be 33 by then. I strongly doubt that he will be at the highest level at the age of 33. Good prospects has been rare in Greece in the last 10 years but Greece has always find a way to be good. Giannis was a lucky case for them though. Finding such a guy wont happen again.

Spain is Spain and even with average tallent last 2 summers it took Canadas 10 nba players barely eliminate them by 3 points.

They have to replace their back court. We will see how the new guys like Nunez adapt. They wont dominate anymore but they can stay high level. They have many guys who will enter the NBA very soon.

Turkey didnt played in 2023 and 2024 summers.So i didnt saw their A team hard to talk about them.

2023 we had Serbia and Greece in our qualification group and most of our guys were in the NBA. Luckily most of them have returned to Europe but we also fail every time to gather our team. 2024 it was Larkin and Osman but for 2025 everyone has promised to participate. Well see.

Toruko tell me your 5 best players for 2025?

Without considering the team strength it would be:
Jokic, Doncic, Giannis, Wembanyama, Franz Wagner or Porzingis or Sengun (not sure but Franz has the advantage of having Schroder in his team)

Considering the team strength it looks like this:
Jokic, Wembanyama, Franz Wagner, Sengun, Porzingis

[Shawshank]

Latvians is always like dark horse. But its impossible to guess when their shooting style will work and when is just chaos and they lose playoofs game by 20 points.


But its interesting discusion who will be in 2025-2028 like Germany was in 2022-2024?

Nobody in 2021 saw this comming from Germany what run they had in 2022-2024.


from tier 2


Italy looks on decline what i saw in 2024 summer.

Croatia in 2024 summer looked way better than Slovenia did with Doncic.

Greece and Lithuanian havent made a semifinal like forever. At some point they gonna make it again.

Spain is Spain and even with average tallent last 2 summers it took Canadas 10 nba players barely eliminate them by 3 points.


Turkey didnt played in 2023 and 2024 summers.So i didnt saw their A team hard to talk about them.

Toruko tell me your 5 best players for 2025?

[Toruko]

The Eurobasket 25 will be more competitive overall. There is no Spain with the guards and the Gasol brothers in their primes. Everyone is beatable on a good day. But no team is so balanced and offers a far reaching skill set like Serbia. There is no obvious weakness in the team.

Germany is understandably rated very high as a team. Germans have a good team but this time I have a feeling they will under perform.

I expect a very dominant performance of Wembanyama though and also from our Sengun. Latvia is my dark horse. They were so close beating Germany the last time. The question is will they be able to deliver younger players to take over.