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  • Originally posted by usagre View Post
    R1ou I am a fan like you. I want to see these guys play in every tournament. But we can't be naive. Tons of money are involved on both ends the team and the player. These are real people with real lives and they must think of their financial futures.
    why are federations paying insurance for its NBA-ers?
    and those are pretty big amounts.
    what exactly do those insurances cover?
    Last edited by Picek; 08-23-2017, 05:52 PM.
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    • well if FIBA was anything like FIFA, they would pay to the clubs like FIFA is doing, heck even if they could make Eurobasket attractive tournament they wouldnt have to pay nothing, everybody would want to play in it, but its useless competitions right now FIBA is falling apart organization, maybe they should sell themselfs to NBA, maybe americans would know how to make money out of it
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      • Belgium roster:
        PG
        Tabu
        Van Rossom
        SG
        Serron
        Lecomte
        SF
        Salumu
        Gillet
        Mwema
        PF
        Hervelle
        Kesteloot
        De Zeuw
        C
        Bako
        Tumba

        Hervelle will miss the game against Spain tonight but should be ok in time for EB.
        Kesteloot replaced injured Vanwijn.
        Last edited by Picek; 08-23-2017, 06:19 PM.
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        • Georgia's coach just said that Pachulia is having an injury problem and the Warriors want him to go back in the US, it's almost certain he's not going to play. Sanikidze is also not at full strength and he might miss the tournament.

          Edit: Sanikidze is definitely not playing.
          Last edited by R1ou; 08-23-2017, 06:22 PM.
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          • LEKAVIČIUS leaves the team, broke the foot.

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            • Originally posted by roloj View Post
              I do not know for sure, but maybe Great Britain?
              Basketball is virtually unknown there.

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              • Originally posted by usagre View Post
                So what ? Let's play that scenario out, he gets hurt, Milwaukee doesn't give him the extension and then when he can walk he obviously walks to his pick of 29 teams and Milwaukee look like a bunch of morons. Again a threat has to have some meat and realistic consequences behind it for it to mean anything. Giannis decided not to play this summer but fan boys will keep the excuses coming.
                He relies on athleticism so a torn ACL or even worse an achilees would definitely stop teams from offering the same money.
                I'm sure you understand as much but you don't know when to stop.

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                • Originally posted by Oly_fan View Post
                  He relies on athleticism so a torn ACL or even worse an achilees would definitely stop teams from offering the same money.
                  I'm sure you understand as much but you don't know when to stop.
                  This isn't 1981 ? Acl, Achilles whatever. With the healing powers of a 22 year old world class athletic body and modern medical procedures yeah he pretty much would still write his own ticket. And I am sure you understand as much as well.
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                  • Originally posted by usagre View Post
                    This isn't 1981 ? Acl, Achilles whatever. With the healing powers of a 22 year old world class athletic body and modern medical procedures yeah he pretty much would still write his own ticket. And I am sure you understand as much as well.
                    No, I don't because I'm not trying to act thick on purpose. Derrick Rose is a former MVP that now plays for the minimum, Jabari Parker's trade value has plummeted (and this came up plenty in talks about Bucks making a competitive offer for Irving) etc

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                    • Originally posted by Oly_fan View Post
                      No, I don't because I'm not trying to act thick on purpose. Derrick Rose is a former MVP that now plays for the minimum, Jabari Parker's trade value has plummeted (and this came up plenty in talks about Bucks making a competitive offer for Irving) etc
                      All examples that are not comparable. Rose is playing for the minimum due to multiple injuries on both knees. Jabari's stock plummeted yes but he never remotely showed the potential that Giannis already has. He's shown that he can be one of the best players in the NBA already so if an injury occurred that would not be easily forgotten. Similarly Irving has been a walking injury dating back to college.

                      I am missing the point here are you making my argument. Sounds like you agree that there was a lot of inherent risk for Giannis in participating in this tournament. So I guess you agree once he didn't feel 100% he did the right thing by pulling out and protecting his future.
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                      • Originally posted by usagre View Post
                        I am missing the point here are you making my argument. Sounds like you agree that there was a lot of inherent risk for Giannis in participating in this tournament. So I guess you agree once he didn't feel 100% he did the right thing by pulling out and protecting his future.
                        No, I'm arguing that the Bucks' mob practices of blackmail and direct threats to its players are to say the least despicable.

                        Of course I also think that Giannis shouldn't put up with any of that since he's bigger than the Bucks have ever been the past 30 years.

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                        • Originally posted by Oly_fan View Post
                          No, I'm arguing that the Bucks' mob practices of blackmail and direct threats to its players are to say the least despicable.

                          Of course I also think that Giannis shouldn't put up with any of that since he's bigger than the Bucks have ever been the past 30 years.
                          Yeah but Giannis should see through that stuff. The Bucks are bluffing with their threats because he holds all the cards.
                          Maybe it's not in his personality or nature but I am sure that if he approached them emphatically and explained the importance of national team play and that he would hold it against them if they didn't understand, they would kneel down and kiss his feet. Like you said they have been a nothing franchise for a long time and it seems like they hit the jackpot with him.
                          Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.

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                          • If I had to guess the Bucks probably looked at Giannis as a young, naive, inexperienced kid that they could manipulate or even blackmail emotionally. Definitely immoral but also good business on their part. Giannis' importance to the Bucks is comparable to wha Nowitzki was to Dallas and Gasol was to his teams. I would bet my life that their teams always recommended against playing. But those guys played when they wanted and skipped when they wanted. I think as Giannis matures just like those guys he will understand that ultimately it's his call.
                            Silver medal 2012 Olympics prediction game.

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                            • Guys, it's Giannis' choice after all. Maybe he really felt soreness etc so he didn't want to risk it. Or maybe he caved in to Bucks' demands. In the end it all comes down to his decision. Prying and discussing it further doesn't make him attending next time more likely.
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                              • Bagatskis announced roster for Eurobasket:

                                1) Strelnieks, Skele
                                2) Bertans, Blums
                                3) Timma, Janicenoks, Peiners
                                4) Bertans, Smits, Grazulis
                                5) Porzingis, Meiers

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