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  • Originally posted by aspsgge View Post
    You're right! Why let the substitutes playing the game? France will have to play with just 5 players to train them offensively and defensively. The substitutes don't have to know the offensive and defensive tactics.
    Last quarter againt Belgium, 5 defensives players: some good offensive movements and good defense...

    France wins 74-44 against Belgium. I've heard that Hervelle should have injury his cruciate ligaments of his left knee... Bad news for them.

    1) Why put all Parker / Diaw / de Colo on bench, and put on floor 5 players that can't create at all. It will never happen in official game ... it is suicidal (though as far as I'm concerned Collet is welcomed to do so). Why test something that will never happen in official game?

    2) Why test it again, when it failed miserably versus Serbia? Serbian bench against French bench turned -20 into +1.

    3) Why test it at all, when even blind man can see it must fail? That is my analogy with gravity. Really no need to check each morning if gravity is still there.

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    • Originally posted by KWSN-Men View Post
      So much for NBA stars making the difference for GB.
      What NBA stars? Only Luol Deng is from NBA. Brits have 4 guys from U20 on roster, van Oostrum and some guys from NCAA. Some guys play in ACB (Freeland, Archibald ...) and some in British League.

      Basketball is not your sport obviously. You know nothing about 23 of 24 national teams at Eurobasket. You better try watching some other sport.

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      • Because it's a test of offensive tactics. On the floor, their is 1 PG, 1 SG, 1 SF, 1 PF, 1 C. The PG have to pass the ball to the SF with a screen of the PF etc...
        What does matter if the PG is Parker or Albicy? The offensive play is the same.

        So, for you, it's better to have 4 starting players and just 1 substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes, then he will be substitute by an another substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes etc... ????

        Each substitute can train tactics during a more long time.

        Collet didn't test the association of players ... He knows what association of players will work...
        At the half time against Belgium, he says that the substitute will play a lot during 4QT to train tactics againt 2-3 zone.

        It's preparation game, so they prepare their tactics. The score doesn't matter. France could win by 40 or 50 with more playing time for Parker, Batum, Diaw, Noah and the good association of player.

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        • Originally posted by aspsgge View Post
          Because it's a test of offensive tactics. On the floor, their is 1 PG, 1 SG, 1 SF, 1 PF, 1 C. The PG have to pass the ball to the SF with a screen of the PF etc...
          What does matter if the PG is Parker or Albicy? The offensive play is the same.

          So, for you, it's better to have 4 starting players and just 1 substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes, then he will be substitute by an another substitute which train his offensive play during 2 minutes etc... ????

          Each substitute can train tactics during a more long time.

          Collet didn't test the association of players ... He knows what association of players will work...
          At the half time against Belgium, he says that the substitute will play a lot during 4QT to train tactics againt 2-3 zone.

          It's preparation game, so they prepare their tactics. The score doesn't matter. France could win by 40 or 50 with more playing time for Parker, Batum, Diaw, Noah and the good association of player.
          It is not about nailing bench players to bench. Yes, they might play 10 minutes in official game and it is OK they play even 20 minutes in friendly game. It is not about winning by 40 points, 4 or 40 is the same in official or friendly game.
          It is about french basketball that has many good defensive specialists and only few skillful players. So it is stupid to put all skilled players at bench in same moment.
          - those bangers without help of Parker and Diaw don't know what to do with strange round object in their hands, it makes them look funny and kind of humiliated
          - it is meaningless test because something like that won't happen in official game as it is simply suicidal - proved by Serbian bench destroying 5 french bangers in few minutes for 20 points difference

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          • Originally posted by Silvio View Post
            What NBA stars? Only Luol Deng is from NBA. Brits have 4 guys from U20 on roster, van Oostrum and some guys from NCAA. Some guys play in ACB (Freeland, Archibald ...) and some in British League.

            Basketball is not your sport obviously. You know nothing about 23 of 24 national teams at Eurobasket. You better try watching some other sport.
            Yes, you're right...

            Man, you make me laugh...

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            • Originally posted by Silvio View Post
              It is not about nailing bench players to bench. Yes, they might play 10 minutes in official game and it is OK they play even 20 minutes in friendly game. It is not about winning by 40 points, 4 or 40 is the same in official or friendly game.
              It is about french basketball that has many good defensive specialists and only few skillful players. So it is stupid to put all skilled players at bench in same moment.
              - those bangers without help of Parker and Diaw don't know what to do with strange round object in their hands, it makes them look funny and kind of humiliated
              - it is meaningless test because something like that won't happen in official game as it is simply suicidal - proved by Serbian bench destroying 5 french bangers in few minutes for 20 points difference
              I think you underestimated them a little. They shows some good offensive play against Belgium. Traore+Seraphin could give 10pts for exemple.
              And I will repeat it another time, it's not to test the association of player. In official game, all the skilled player won't be on the bench at the same time. But the substitute which will play with them will be more prepared by playing 20min in friendlies than playing 10min in friendlies. And be more prepared by having a lot of ball during friendlies than no have the ball during friendlies.

              Can you explain to me why all the skilled player have to play when the team is leading by 30? To have more chance to get an injury? It doesn't matter if the substitute all playing together are not able to keep the advance of 20-30pts. (the last QT against Belgium was tied)

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