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  • It's easy to get on the Austin for naturalization bandwagon, but playing devils advocate here (always good to be critical when faced with an important decision), despite Austin's talent and the fact that he's played close to year already after being cleared (Nov 2016), why doesn't he have an NBA pre-season training camp invite or a big European contract offer? Watching him at the Gilas practice, while he definitly is good and probably a good fit for Gilas , i don't see him as currently an NBA prospect. Even on an a short term non guaranteed contract. He looks too soft currently to play big and will lack the speed and athleticim to play SF. (in the NBA,, of course FIBA ball is a different story , i think he will have a significant impact) So guys let's not get carried away , Austin isn't Ingram or NBA level
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    • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
      It's easy to get on the Austin for naturalization bandwagon, but playing devils advocate here (always good to be critical when faced with an important decision), despite Austin's talent and the fact that he's played close to year already after being cleared (Nov 2016), why doesn't he have an NBA pre-season training camp invite or a big European contract offer? Watching him at the Gilas practice, while he definitly is good and probably a good fit for Gilas , i don't see him as currently an NBA prospect. Even on an a short term non guaranteed contract. He looks too soft currently to play big and will lack the speed and athleticim to play SF. (in the NBA,, of course FIBA ball is a different story , i think he will have a significant impact) So guys let's not get carried away , Austin isn't Ingram or NBA level
      The way i see it Austin is an insurance if we cant get GS,Junmar, CS,JApeth Raymond front line..
      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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      • Originally posted by reamily View Post
        The way i see it Austin is an insurance if we cant get GS,Junmar, CS,JApeth Raymond front line..
        Well it's always prudent to have a pool of around 5 legitimate bigs, as guarantee, some one will always be unavailable for whatever reason (see Junmar Asia cup)
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        • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
          It's easy to get on the Austin for naturalization bandwagon, but playing devils advocate here (always good to be critical when faced with an important decision), despite Austin's talent and the fact that he's played close to year already after being cleared (Nov 2016), why doesn't he have an NBA pre-season training camp invite or a big European contract offer? Watching him at the Gilas practice, while he definitly is good and probably a good fit for Gilas , i don't see him as currently an NBA prospect. Even on an a short term non guaranteed contract. He looks too soft currently to play big and will lack the speed and athleticim to play SF. (in the NBA,, of course FIBA ball is a different story , i think he will have a significant impact) So guys let's not get carried away , Austin isn't Ingram or NBA level
          The reason I think is that no teams are willing to commit and take a risk on Austin is because of his past health issue. But honestly I'm confident after he impresses in his stint with Gilas not just this fiba champions cup, I guarantee there would be some NBA teams knocking on his door. It's very seldom to see a 7'1 guy possessing the mobility, handles, athleticism, and shot-blocking ability that Austin possess.

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          • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
            It's easy to get on the Austin for naturalization bandwagon, but playing devils advocate here (always good to be critical when faced with an important decision), despite Austin's talent and the fact that he's played close to year already after being cleared (Nov 2016), why doesn't he have an NBA pre-season training camp invite or a big European contract offer? Watching him at the Gilas practice, while he definitly is good and probably a good fit for Gilas , i don't see him as currently an NBA prospect. Even on an a short term non guaranteed contract. He looks too soft currently to play big and will lack the speed and athleticim to play SF. (in the NBA,, of course FIBA ball is a different story , i think he will have a significant impact) So guys let's not get carried away , Austin isn't Ingram or NBA level
            Maybe SBP can contact the teams Austin played for - Baylor, FMP of Serbia, and Guangxi of NBL China.
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            • the guy is jet lagged. give him a break. ample rest and practice with the team am sure he'll get his bearings back. coach and the management definitely saw something from him that'll contribute to the gilas cause. let's wait for the tournament unfold and reserve our 'critical' assessment afterwards.

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              • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                It's easy to get on the Austin for naturalization bandwagon, but playing devils advocate here (always good to be critical when faced with an important decision), despite Austin's talent and the fact that he's played close to year already after being cleared (Nov 2016), why doesn't he have an NBA pre-season training camp invite or a big European contract offer? Watching him at the Gilas practice, while he definitly is good and probably a good fit for Gilas , i don't see him as currently an NBA prospect. Even on an a short term non guaranteed contract. He looks too soft currently to play big and will lack the speed and athleticim to play SF. (in the NBA,, of course FIBA ball is a different story , i think he will have a significant impact) So guys let's not get carried away , Austin isn't Ingram or NBA level
                That's one aspect of the game that concerns me. Since Austin will play as a big man, as what coach Chot said that Austin can play both the 4 & 5 spot (I don't see him playing the 3 spot), I'd like to see if he can play physical & rough. That would be crucial as he is expected to be matched-up with the likes of Zhou Qi, Hamed Hadadi & Ahmad Al Dwairi, if ever he gets naturalized.

                No doubt, he has the skills, athleticism & the height.
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                • Originally posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
                  The reason I think is that no teams are willing to commit and take a risk on Austin is because of his past health issue. But honestly I'm confident after he impresses in his stint with Gilas not just this fiba champions cup, I guarantee there would be some NBA teams knocking on his door. It's very seldom to see a 7'1 guy possessing the mobility, handles, athleticism, and shot-blocking ability that Austin possess.
                  NBA teams apprehensive about recruiting Austin becoz of health reason, that's understandable because it will involve a long term contract. But what about European teams in which Austin plays as an import? I mean, the situation in European leagues is different becoz teams there can offer Austin a short contact, say a 6 to 8 months contract. The risk therefore of Austin having his heart ailment recurring won't hurt his European team that much.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                    It's easy to get on the Austin for naturalization bandwagon, but playing devils advocate here (always good to be critical when faced with an important decision), despite Austin's talent and the fact that he's played close to year already after being cleared (Nov 2016), why doesn't he have an NBA pre-season training camp invite or a big European contract offer? Watching him at the Gilas practice, while he definitly is good and probably a good fit for Gilas , i don't see him as currently an NBA prospect. Even on an a short term non guaranteed contract. He looks too soft currently to play big and will lack the speed and athleticim to play SF. (in the NBA,, of course FIBA ball is a different story , i think he will have a significant impact) So guys let's not get carried away , Austin isn't Ingram or NBA level
                    So sir you are in Manila right now? Almost 3 years of not playing competitive basketball will definitely affect you physically and mentally. Ranked number 3 in the class of 2012 and a sure 2014 first round draftee if not for his illness definitely shows that he belongs in the NBA, ika nga balik sa zero but what he needs is a believer and a motivator for him to be back to his old self not a critics..
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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                        NBA teams apprehensive about recruiting Austin becoz of health reason, that's understandable because it will involve a long term contract. But what about European teams in which Austin plays as an import? I mean, the situation in European leagues is different becoz teams there can offer Austin a short contact, say a 6 to 8 months contract. The risk therefore of Austin having his heart ailment recurring won't hurt his European team that much.
                        Who knows what's the real score between Austin and his club team but a guy who was just cleared last year after not playing competitive basketball for almost 2 years can't be expected to dominate right away. But everything happens for a reason lets say the European teams offered Austin a long term contract, would he be available to Gilas? Look at hassan whiteside there was a talk before here na iconsider siya as naturalize player since teammate siya ni Lutz, but after becoming a journeyman he was still able to get to the NBA. What I'm trying to say is Austin is free of his commitments then it is really a perfect time to snatch him and make him our naturalize. Like I said before its not everyday you see a 7'1 athletic freak and mobile big with shooting prowess to commit to play for our country. Long ago it was supposed to be McGee but Austin at 23 years old is perfect to our plans. Imagine if he is successful he can team up with Sotto, Paras, 1GDL, Kiefer, Parks, Clarkson, Romeo, Edu and still maybe Fajardo and Slaughter, 4 years from now.

                        Also sir Analyze, what's with the change of mind? You just posted before that Austin is a game changer na if he will be paired with Clarkson then we are the favorites in Asia? If Pelle of Lebanon can be a significant player, what more si Austin? Taller, quicker, younger, at mas shooter? 20-20 games is not very far fetched for Austin lalo na kung mapapayagan din siya sa Asian games.

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                        • Originally posted by FARIDOON View Post
                          So sir you are in Manila right now? Almost 3 years of not playing competitive basketball will definitely affect you physically and mentally. Ranked number 3 in the class of 2012 and a sure 2014 first round draftee if not for his illness definitely shows that he belongs in the NBA, ika nga balik sa zero but what he needs is a believer and a motivator for him to be back to his old self not a critics..[/B]
                          this.

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                          • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                            It's easy to get on the Austin for naturalization bandwagon, but playing devils advocate here (always good to be critical when faced with an important decision), despite Austin's talent and the fact that he's played close to year already after being cleared (Nov 2016), why doesn't he have an NBA pre-season training camp invite or a big European contract offer? Watching him at the Gilas practice, while he definitly is good and probably a good fit for Gilas , i don't see him as currently an NBA prospect. Even on an a short term non guaranteed contract. He looks too soft currently to play big and will lack the speed and athleticim to play SF. (in the NBA,, of course FIBA ball is a different story , i think he will have a significant impact) So guys let's not get carried away , Austin isn't Ingram or NBA level
                            I agree. You know how a big fan I am of the guy, but one thing that keeps me wondering is how he'll be a post up player and defender.Like Blatche,I see him as a more face up type player rather than a back to the basket one.There will be good things and bad things like, it will definitely be easier for him to score against lazy slumbering 7 footers because of his agility.Blatche, although shorter than Haddadi, has the weight to defend against him on the post, while Austin is at least 30 lbs. lighter than Blatche.Another issue about Austin is his strength.Although, he is only 23 years old and may bulk up and develop more his lower and upper body strength. IMO, if it would be healthy for him, he should bulk up to 250 lbs. this year.
                            "How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale

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                            • @DenzelGreat8

                              There's nothing wrong with being a bit skeptical at times. Maybe we can categorize that as "constructive skepticism".

                              If one will only look at the positives & ignore the negatives, then that's being biased. Right?
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • Austin is not soft. He is just light and thin.
                                He can defend with his body. He is definitely not a pushover. He even punched a serbian player and went 4 on 1 against them without backing down.
                                He is not blatche who we can rely on if going gets tough in scoring.
                                But he makes the game easier for us because of the dimensions he offers which is tailored fit for chota system.
                                His game is queationable tho because he has poor stats for an import.
                                So one will wonder how consistent he is while on the floor. Does he defend well or he relaxes. He can shoot well but for ho many attempts?
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