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  • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

    That's way cheaper than naturalizing a player like boatwright.. do what gilas women is doing. Naturalized players are our ineligibles (vanessa de jesus)
    The best NP that is ineligible is Ron Harper Jr and he wont come cheap since he is ex NBA.
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    • Originally posted by reamily View Post

      it only costs much because we need to spend lobby money in congress and senate to make the naturalization bill going...ad the last time we got an inleigible to be aour np cost us million of dollars for insurance alone (to add limited paractice dates)
      Clarkson is expensive because he is currently an NBA player. save for Green (whom USAB probably wont release soon ) we do not have an ineligible player who is in the NBA. those who has a good shot at making it, Dylan Harper and JJ Mandaquit, are well within USAB's grasp currently. RHJ and Miller(after a few years) might be more reasonable to be included in the pool now. SBP can decide what to do with them when the right tournament comes.
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      • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

        The best NP that is ineligible is Ron Harper Jr and he wont come cheap since he is ex NBA.
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        he is recovering from a season ending injury. offering him money to showcase his game and a probably shot at B league as an Asian import might make him think. but first things first, hopefully SBP reached out to atleast, present Gilas to the family.
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        • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

          Clarkson is expensive because he is currently an NBA player. save for Green (whom USAB probably wont release soon ) we do not have an ineligible player who is in the NBA. those who has a good shot at making it, Dylan Harper and JJ Mandaquit, are well within USAB's grasp currently. RHJ and Miller(after a few years) might be more reasonable to be included in the pool now. SBP can decide what to do with them when the right tournament comes.
          I think between jj and Dylan, jj has a higher chance of playing for Gilas in the future but if Dylan could be recruited he’d be a great pickup, 6’5 high iq pg potentially going to the nba. Be better to try and recruit him now while he’s still young

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          • I think Sir Dave and Sir Nardy's team with the help of Filam Nation Select guys had the brains and physical presence to hook-up and coordinate wiith the family, certainly with SBP on behalf of the new Exec. Director can make those things happen. if we based the previous statements of the parents I think they had no problem in obtaining the docs it's just that, currently, the family's table are full.

            having the two brothers as a package with Ron Jr. being the naturalize guy and Dylan at 18 had a fighting chance to be exempted in few more years assuming the docs are already been obtain now and both NSA's agreed on the change of allegiance then I don't think it may create many complications moving forward.

            same with the JJ kid who already obtained his docs before turning 16, it's just that he is now in the thick of preparation for the U17 World Cup for Team USA.

            I think this also one of the reason why he is not participated on this year's edition of NBTC.

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            • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post

              He already is making a living through basketball. What kind of argument is that?
              He will make more if he's not bound with a Filipino citizenship that's going nowhere as far basketball is concerned.By the way he got that job by his and his agent alone,nothing from the hateful SBP,a homegrown talent that can't even play in country as a local.Besides aren't you confident that a Gilas team can mop the best in Asia without a Kouame as a backup to Kai?

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              • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post

                He will make more if he's not bound with a Filipino citizenship that's going nowhere as far basketball is concerned.By the way he got that job by his and his agent alone,nothing from the hateful SBP,a homegrown talent that can't even play in country as a local.Besides aren't you confident that a Gilas team can mop the best in Asia without a Kouame as a backup to Kai?
                He made money as an NP in the Philippines. He understands the transaction he made. He got the job because Tab/MVP knows him well. Same reason Boatwright is getting consideration now just with different padrinos.

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                • Christ, just naturalize all the college FSA's already. Not all of them will be good enough to play in France. At least reward some of them for taking the time to grind in local college basketball than tending some farm in Africa.

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                  • Originally posted by paolylo View Post
                    Christ, just naturalize all the college FSA's already. Not all of them will be good enough to play in France. At least reward some of them for taking the time to grind in local college basketball than tending some farm in Africa.
                    better yet, allow them to play in the PBA. give each team 1 slot for FSAs who played at least 4 years in local colleges. the best FSAs get naturalized. that would also simulate having 2 world imports in regular pba games

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                    • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

                      better yet, allow them to play in the PBA. give each team 1 slot for FSAs who played at least 4 years in local colleges. the best FSAs get naturalized. that would also simulate having 2 world imports in regular pba games
                      Ive always liked this idea, but people are going to complain that there will be one less slot for locals as a result

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                      • Originally posted by paulrenzo View Post

                        Ive always liked this idea, but people are going to complain that there will be one less slot for locals as a result
                        Expanding the league to 14-16 teams is the answer. Why do Japanese are on the rise? Because they played with 2-3 imports almost all the time plus the influx of foreign coaches. For us to avoid the scarcity of quality bigman, 1 import must be 6"5 and below and the other is unlimited height. Also, one import is world import while the other is either FSA ( with PH diploma), naturalized (brownlee,blatche) or Asian Import
                        ""failure is not the end but just the beginning of a victorious journey..just keep on dreaming and we will be back on the olympics''''

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                        • Originally posted by mayfel View Post

                          Expanding the league to 14-16 teams is the answer. Why do Japanese are on the rise? Because they played with 2-3 imports almost all the time plus the influx of foreign coaches. For us to avoid the scarcity of quality bigman, 1 import must be 6"5 and below and the other is unlimited height. Also, one import is world import while the other is either FSA ( with PH diploma), naturalized (brownlee,blatche) or Asian Import
                          lets say 16. and SMC will have 3 sister teams and probably 3 farm teams. same with MVP group. that leaves 4 independent teams. what would be the difference with the current setup? just a spot for FSA per team?
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                          • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                            lets say 16. and SMC will have 3 sister teams and probably 3 farm teams. same with MVP group. that leaves 4 independent teams. what would be the difference with the current setup? just a spot for FSA per team?
                            I'm thinking of it in terms that 8 UAAP schools, 10 NCAA schools, 11 CESAFI schools, and even PBA D-League teams that are practically schools that don't play in those 3 leagues have at least one FSA... a PBA team is only getting one (or even two, pang-3x3 yung back-up) of them and it's not as if they're changing them every year ala-PBA Draft. Have them do direct-hire free agents and give them their worth just like any other PBA player.

                            It's not changing the PBA, it's more likely the bigger teams get the more established names... but at least they won't look like shit in in the EASL or even BCL when they've integrated a big (encroaching the height limit aside) in the team with a resident import.

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                            • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                              I'm thinking of it in terms that 8 UAAP schools, 10 NCAA schools, 11 CESAFI schools, and even PBA D-League teams that are practically schools that don't play in those 3 leagues have at least one FSA... a PBA team is only getting one (or even two, pang-3x3 yung back-up) of them and it's not as if they're changing them every year ala-PBA Draft. Have them do direct-hire free agents and give them their worth just like any other PBA player.

                              It's not changing the PBA, it's more likely the bigger teams get the more established names... but at least they won't look like shit in in the EASL or even BCL when they've integrated a big (encroaching the height limit aside) in the team with a resident import.
                              PBA have loads of problems that they need to address little by little. but to stay on topic, if FSA are allowed, will their be height restrictions? will they be tagged as import or not?
                              allowing FSA in the PBA, specially if no height limit, will remove any reason not to allow NP to play in the PBA not as the main import. but currently, we can only play Bronwlee and Ange. maybe Dray. . so thats 3, sama na natin si Boatwright. 4. allowing FSA but not these 4 would look antagonistic to NPs. and if you allow them, most likely the big teams will get them eventually. so more inequality..

                              im not against the FSAs. Im pretty sure this was raised before and i like the idea. but due to the inequality in the PBA, this looks more like an even more probably issue than helping the league.
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                              • the PBA should really do some improvement if they really want to be relevant locally and internationally, old habits and practices are ain't selling anymore.

                                many of us including me never thought that the recently concluded EASL finals would not be a blockbuster because we don't have any representation and apparently I was wrong..it was a sold-out.

                                as we all know come 2026, the B. League will introduce it's very first Rookie Draft and will remove any restrictions as far as Asian quota are concern.

                                it's really a very bold move on the part of Japan basketball

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