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  • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post
    high schoolers like 6'9 Collin Akowe and 6'6 Racine Kane among others

    had a fighting chance to get exempted moving forward if they eventually being convince

    to be naturalize at this moment.

    that's the overall wisdom behind that exemption rule the so-called "before reaching 23 yrs. old".

    I do hope those bright people from the academe who runs the UAAP and NCAA are intelligently enough

    about the paradigm that is shaping nowadays on the so-called "Globalization and Diaspora: Planet Earth Without Borders."

    I don't think it will compromise their so-called line of reasoning about "Patriotism".​
    Not sure if it was jaemark or TJ Manotoc who coined the term "perceived awesomeness". UAAP/NCAA juniors have always had either foreign players or Fil-Ams in high school teams as far back as when I was watchng high school basketball in the late 90's... the problem is when a said player becomes too awesome, it makes the other teams whine which has always been a problem with college basketball.

    Anyone can argue about FSA's having "perceived awesomeness", but if you're talking about talented players above 6'6... Sam Deguarra can impregnate a volleyball player for all I care and some Ivorian, Cameroonian, Sudanese kid will have better genes for basketball that him but won't be able to play as a local for the very reason why college teams play this game of chicken.

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    • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

      Not sure if it was jaemark or TJ Manotoc who coined the term "perceived awesomeness". UAAP/NCAA juniors have always had either foreign players or Fil-Ams in high school teams as far back as when I was watchng high school basketball in the late 90's... the problem is when a said player becomes too awesome, it makes the other teams whine which has always been a problem with college basketball.

      Anyone can argue about FSA's having "perceived awesomeness", but if you're talking about talented players above 6'6... Sam Deguarra can impregnate a volleyball player for all I care and some Ivorian, Cameroonian, Sudanese kid will have better genes for basketball that him but won't be able to play as a local for the very reason why college teams play this game of chicken.
      Good Day Sir Pao,

      I'm fully respected you bossing.

      there is nothing wrong of having that Pinoy Pride

      but we all know in our local parlance "lahat ng kulang lahat ng sobra ay hindi maganda" trans. trust the process, just fair game

      unfortunately that so-called Pinoy Pride are the reason why we Filipinos lost(badly) that uprising against those conquistadores because the ancestors are killing and biting each other to death

      and also the main reason why we lost our mojo in the sports of baseball here in Asia because sports officials at that time are also pulling each others down all in the narrative of Pinoy Pride.

      andami kasi pa bibo ang daming pabida trans. oops!! wait before I sailed away let's go back to the basketball topic shall we.

      competition in sports are really part of the trade...we all know that.

      but looking for a loopholes and nitpicking on each other and apply that "Pinoy Pride" storyline

      oh dear, they are really missing the whole picture and "Why we(must) are doing this".

      now enter the word "Insulares" in the landscape of HS and College basketball

      if that happens that metaphor of "when two or more parties engage in a showdown where they have nothing to gain and only Pinoy Pride stops them from backing down

      in end Philippine basketball will really suffer moving forward while our neighbors are gaining grounds because they are exalting all avenues within that FIBA playbook

      man oh man!!!

      that is why...pasaway.

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      • as far as exercising the so-called "Rights of Suffrage" on all Filipinos

        I think JB is doing his own little ways of doing that.

        I'm not endorsing nor recommending any political propaganda here in IBN

        but what I'm posting is one of the strong merits out there for a possible exemption moving forward.

        if only all those PH document holders who had a strong chance to get exempted one of these days

        will participate on the coming mid-term elections

        I don't think it will compromise totally their dual citizenship

        that part is a very strong evidence to FIBA that indeed the player(s) are strongly involve in the

        domestic transactions not only on the development of the game but also on the community.

        that's the wisdom of FIBA's exemption.

        who knows maybe JB may get an exemption in the immediate future

        others must follow, it's a no brainer. All Filipinos should do it's part.

        “I definitely appreciate that. I understand it wasn't an easy process but I just appreciate all the senators and politicians who were involved. I can name so many but I'm just gonna say everyone that was involved, I just appreciate them,” said Brownlee.

        “Anything positive for the country,” said Brownlee. “I'm a Filipino citizen now so I take pride in things like that. Like I said, I wanna be a big part of it or even a small part of it and help as much as I can."

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        • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post
          as far as exercising the so-called "Rights of Suffrage" on all Filipinos

          I think JB is doing his own little ways of doing that.

          I'm not endorsing nor recommending any political propaganda here in IBN

          but what I'm posting is one of the strong merits out there for a possible exemption moving forward.

          if only all those PH document holders who had a strong chance to get exempted one of these days

          will participate on the coming mid-term elections

          I don't think it will compromise totally their dual citizenship

          that part is a very strong evidence to FIBA that indeed the player(s) are strongly involve in the

          domestic transactions not only on the development of the game but also on the community.

          that's the wisdom of FIBA's exemption.

          who knows maybe JB may get an exemption in the immediate future

          others must follow, it's a no brainer. All Filipinos should do it's part.



          https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/j...ef=home_feed_1
          That's actually good out of the box thinking.

          Konsi Brownlee and Kagawad QMB has a ring to it. Then embark on basketball-related projects.

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          • Originally posted by Metta View Post

            That's actually good out of the box thinking.

            Konsi Brownlee and Kagawad QMB has a ring to it. Then embark on basketball-related projects.
            Sir Mets,

            I'm not totally familiar with the Dual Citizenship Act

            but I think those people who holds that thing

            are entitled to vote both in the US and the PHIL

            without compromising or violating any provisions on both parties.

            I hope someone who are a practicing lawyer may provide us

            the clearer picture on this.

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            • Originally posted by Metta View Post

              That's actually good out of the box thinking.

              Konsi Brownlee and Kagawad QMB has a ring to it. Then embark on basketball-related projects.
              im a bit confused. do you mean they just go out and vote or run for certain positions? if they run, they have to renounce their other citizenship.-< https://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/sc-natur...zens-by-birth/
              WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

              P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
              SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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              • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post

                im a bit confused. do you mean they just go out and vote or run for certain positions? if they run, they have to renounce their other citizenship.-< https://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/sc-natur...zens-by-birth/
                Thanks, that article explains it. I know of duals who ran/won elections, but I didn't know the dual citizen at birth clause.

                That rules out Brownlee unless he renounces, I'm not sure what situation QMB has (if one of his parents was a dual at the time of his birth, he's a dual at birth thus able to run for office).

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                • as far as I know as far as the existing law are concern

                  naturalized citizen like JB, AK34, Andray Blatche, Marcus Douthit among others are not entitled to run to any national and local position.

                  as per C2Hamm otherwise they need to renounce their other citizenship.

                  I think the late father of Sen. Richard Gordon then mayor of Olongapo during those days decided to renounce his American citizenship

                  to run for that local post.

                  anyway, as a practical thing, if those hafus had plans to run for public office after their basketball careers then they really need to close the other side

                  but for now if they truly wants to don the flag in a FIBA sanctioned event they really need to establish a strong domestic connection and exercising the

                  right of suffrage is a very very strong merit moving forward.

                  and were talking about lads who obtained their PH Passport after their 16th birthday.

                  I think JC and allegedly PH pass holders like Jalen Green, Remy Martin, Kamaka Hepa, Ron Harper Jr. had a chance to practice that right of suffrage

                  thru that Absentee Voting Act.

                  that is why the next big question is "Are they interested enough to vote in the local scene and being a dual citizen they will not compromise any sides

                  as far as technicality are concern.

                  one thing I know " Kung isa lang napupusuan mong iboto walang kaso basta wag lang sumobra sa balota". trans. Filipino voting public are not obligated to maximize the vote


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