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  • We have enough future bigs right now...damn! We have 11-12 years old 6'1-6'2 kids and we have also 14-15 years old 6'7-6'9 kids...we should hire Serbian coach and trainer for these kids to develop their skills... potential potential!

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    • Originally posted by onggok View Post
      We have enough future bigs right now...damn! We have 11-12 years old 6'1-6'2 kids and we have also 14-15 years old 6'7-6'9 kids...we should hire Serbian coach and trainer for these kids to develop their skills... potential potential!
      too bad the next generation would most likely be coached by





      josh reyes






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      • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

        too bad the next generation would most likely be coached by





        josh reyes






        What's the use of having tall players,when the team will go small ball.

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        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
          Before his leg broke JF actually was a force on offense in Fiba. He was the 2nd top scorer against Australia until all hell broke loose IRC. He could have been much better if he kept the weight Tab asked him to go down to. But he needed the weight back to dominate the PBA. Unfortunately, the weight, all the minutes and all the games, including for Fiba and non-Fiba, contributed to his injury.
          Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
          That’s on his jurassic coach.

          CTC would have managed JF better because the former is willing to adapt to the modern game.

          I’m honestly fed up with these boomer coaches who are obsessed with emulating Shaq.

          Shaq is Shaq. No one can ever replicate him.
          That maybe on SMB management and the staff as well for not getting June Mar to lose weight. zairex mentioned an article that June Mar liked rice, but if that is the case, the staff should have been more strict on his diet, and gave him more workouts to make him lose weight.

          And why we want our best bigs to be bangers, except in the case of 6'10" strong guys like June Mar, perplexes me. The only thing that would make that justifiable is if the bigs have good length and lateral quickness to go along with strength and weight, especially if they're only 195-203cm (6'5"-6'8").

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          • Josh Reyes is an insult to Philippine basketball. At least his father, had achievements, Josh has none. NADA. NOTHING. ZERO.
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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post




              That maybe on SMB management and the staff as well for not getting June Mar to lose weight. zairex mentioned an article that June Mar liked rice, but if that is the case, the staff should have been more strict on his diet, and gave him more workouts to make him lose weight.

              And why we want our best bigs to be bangers, except in the case of 6'10" strong guys like June Mar, perplexes me. The only thing that would make that justifiable is if the bigs have good length and lateral quickness to go along with strength and weight, especially if they're only 195-203cm (6'5"-6'8").
              Banger bigs work but they have to be modern like be able to hit outside shots, defend PnRs, and close out.

              Look at Vučević.

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              • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                Banger bigs work but they have to be modern like be able to hit outside shots, defend PnRs, and close out.

                Look at Vučević.
                Fair enough. Vuč has been pretty good defensively, although he's no anchor. Heck, even Jokić has good anticipation and quick hands on defense. If you want to have a banger big, I think it's gonna work internationally only if you are 6'6"+, and if you can defend the PnR, close out, and switch.

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post




                  That maybe on SMB management and the staff as well for not getting June Mar to lose weight. zairex mentioned an article that June Mar liked rice, but if that is the case, the staff should have been more strict on his diet, and gave him more workouts to make him lose weight.

                  And why we want our best bigs to be bangers, except in the case of 6'10" strong guys like June Mar, perplexes me. The only thing that would make that justifiable is if the bigs have good length and lateral quickness to go along with strength and weight, especially if they're only 195-203cm (6'5"-6'8").
                  So what if he likes rice? I like rice too but I gave it up because I needed to lose weight. He's a professional basketball player. He should be held to a different standard. The truth is, rice or no rice JF dominated the PBA that it didn't matter. If they weren't winning anything I guarantee everyone would be on his @ss to lose weight.

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                  • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post

                    So what if he likes rice? I like rice too but I gave it up because I needed to lose weight. He's a professional basketball player. He should be held to a different standard. The truth is, rice or no rice JF dominated the PBA that it didn't matter. If they weren't winning anything I guarantee everyone would be on his @ss to lose weight.
                    Because he’s the only 6’9+ guy besides Japeth and Greg in the PBA. That’s how he dominated outside import conferences with 6’9 imports.

                    Point is Junemar needed to shed weight if he wanted to compete in FIBA tournaments.

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                    • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                      Because he’s the only 6’9+ guy besides Japeth and Greg in the PBA. That’s how he dominated outside import conferences with 6’9 imports.

                      Point is Junemar needed to shed weight if he wanted to compete in FIBA tournaments.
                      if junmar was 6'6" with his current skillset he'd be worse than somebody like jason ballesteros, while slaughter would probably not make it to the pba. japeth could probably have a don camaso-like career. that's how much of a factor their height/size is. still, prior to kai, junmar was the most talented 6'9" and above homegrown player. i just wish he'd been more exposed to international competition in his younger years

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                      • Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                        Because he’s the only 6’9+ guy besides Japeth and Greg in the PBA. That’s how he dominated outside import conferences with 6’9 imports.

                        Point is Junemar needed to shed weight if he wanted to compete in FIBA tournaments.
                        Sorry it I wasn't clear. My point is it didn't really matter as they don't care so long as they keep winning in the PBA. All the 6'8 and above guys are on SMC's camp anyway.

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                        • Originally posted by PaulLee3 View Post
                          Who are these next generation basketball players??
                          for now, developing those kid’s ball handling skills is a must so that when they start training for other CORE fundamentals it won’t be that difficult to enhance the overall dynamics for the game.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post




                            That maybe on SMB management and the staff as well for not getting June Mar to lose weight. zairex mentioned an article that June Mar liked rice, but if that is the case, the staff should have been more strict on his diet, and gave him more workouts to make him lose weight.

                            And why we want our best bigs to be bangers, except in the case of 6'10" strong guys like June Mar, perplexes me. The only thing that would make that justifiable is if the bigs have good length and lateral quickness to go along with strength and weight, especially if they're only 195-203cm (6'5"-6'8").
                            SMB found the secret sauce to AFC domination. The most dominant AFC team of all time. Let heavy Junemar throw his weight in the middle, surround him with shooters, and wait for either to score. On defense, it didnt matter that he got progressively slower that even his Cebu coaches and Ramon Fernandez decried that he was never that slow before, either the refs or his teammates would compensate for him.

                            This is all SMB. They wanted TNTs AFC record and they needed heavy Junemar to do it. He was mich better defensively early in his Gilas career, including his standout WC performance. In fact, he moved quite well in his rookie year in the PBA. It all went down hill, when the coaching staff decided that the only way they would win was to play Junemar solely in the paint for close to 40 mins a game. Forgotten was the fact that Junemar and Petron was even more dominant in the Governors cup under coach Abanilla with a two pace approach. I am too lazy to get the stats but I remember the point differential of the Petron Govs cup team was big. They lost in 7 games to Sanmig Light with some questionable moves that you could suspect it was decreed by Al Chua that Sanmig should win to jumpstart their Grandslam + 1

                            IMO Junemar’s Fiba potential shown in his first WC was sacrificed so SMB could win 5 straight AFCs. SMB and Junemar are not the losers here but us fans who saw for several games Junemars potential against the top teams in the world only never to see it repeated again.

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                            • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post

                              for now, developing those kid’s ball handling skills is a must so that when they start training for other CORE fundamentals it won’t be that difficult to enhance the overall dynamics for the game.
                              I agree they should develop their ball handling skills and shooting skills...they should watch Pete Maravich video in YouTube

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                              • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

                                if junmar was 6'6" with his current skillset he'd be worse than somebody like jason ballesteros, while slaughter would probably not make it to the pba. japeth could probably have a don camaso-like career. that's how much of a factor their height/size is. still, prior to kai, junmar was the most talented 6'9" and above homegrown player. i just wish he'd been more exposed to international competition in his younger years
                                Junemar 6'6 will be like now Arana. Comapre him to Jason Ballesteros. JF have shown he can score on imports. Never have I seen Jason B. score consistent on a import even if the import is 6'5".

                                Just watch Bay dragons comments on JF.

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