Future Big Men Of Philippine Basketball

[IPC]

So Quiambao really left Dlsu.

I hope his ig post last time means he will put his talent overseas

Really, he left La Salle? And what's his last IG post?

[IPC]

Here's a video on the new breed of NBA bigs, and how they've evolved:

He explains that these bigs have guard skills AND traditional bigman skills. Guys like KAT, Embiid, Jokić, Bam, Giannis, AD, Jaren Jackson, Jr., Christian Wood, Draymond, Sabonis, Siakam can either handle, pass, or shoot, or any combination of all three.

[IPC]

Here's a video on the new breed of NBA bigs, and how they've evolved:

He explains that these bigs have guard skills AND traditional bigman skills. Guys like KAT, Embiid, Jokić, Bam, Giannis, AD, Jaren Jackson, Jr., Christian Wood, Draymond, Sabonis, Siakam can either handle, pass, or shoot, or any combination of all three.

However, these are among the best PFs and centers in the NBA. They're stars. The rest of the NBA bigs are kinda more traditional, whether as stretch bigs or rim runners or rim protectors.

Other power forwards are now wings playing PF, like Melo, KD, Tatum (who really has been playing 3 when Robert Williams and Al Horford are playing the big positions), PJ Tucker. There are tweeners like the Morris twins and Tobias Harris, and traditional fours like Thad Young and Julius Randle (who are kinda in the mold of Siakam).

[IPC]

Here's a video on the new breed of NBA bigs, and how they've evolved:

He explains that these bigs have guard skills AND traditional bigman skills. Guys like KAT, Embiid, Jokić, Bam, Giannis, AD, Jaren Jackson, Jr., Christian Wood, Draymond, Sabonis, Siakam can either handle, pass, or shoot, or any combination of all three.

Anyways, I hope we can see this kind of evolution from our own bigs, and that we can develop star-level bigs (even if that level is here in the Philippines) so we can see a golden age of bigs. And I hope most of our 6'7"-6'8" star bigs can play at least the PF position, similar to Tamayo and Baltazar, even if those other bigs can be just traditional low-post fours or stretch fours.

[IPC]

Been thinking: Would Balti continue his development into a versatile switchy defender at the 4 spot if he joins the PBA, or would he be asked to bulk up to be able to defend big, hefty centers?

He's already kinda unique defensively as a big who can switch to the perimeter, which has been valuable to us internationally. Needs to keep that skillset wherever he goes.

[Dotch]

This is what happened if you expose your 13 y.o. 6'6 son to social media. like the case of this kid Owen Calanasan

Commenters going to comment like:

"Wag kang Bano"
"Train like a modern big"
"Mag train ka maging guard"
or "You the Next Kai"

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This is what happened if you expose your 13 y.o. 6'6 son to social media. like the case of this kid Owen Calanasan

Commenters going to comment like:

"Wag kang Bano"
"Train like a modern big"
"Mag train ka maging guard"
or "You the Next Kai"

to be fair, the first comment is great advice!

[dubidub]

Been thinking: Would Balti continue his development into a versatile switchy defender at the 4 spot if he joins the PBA, or would he be asked to bulk up to be able to defend big, hefty centers?

He's already kinda unique defensively as a big who can switch to the perimeter, which has been valuable to us internationally. Needs to keep that skillset wherever he goes.

i think it still depends where he ends. methinks he won't bulk up as i think his current weight is the most his frame could carry. guys like belo, troy, oftana, arwind didn't have to bulk up in the pba despite playing as bigs.

what i hope is that baltazar isn't forced to solely play as a traditional postplaying big.

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i think it still depends where he ends. methinks he won't bulk up as i think his current weight is the most his frame could carry. guys like belo, troy, oftana, arwind didn't have to bulk up in the pba despite playing as bigs.

what i hope is that baltazar isn't forced to solely play as a traditional postplaying big.

Nah. Arwind is not a great post defender. In the early years of the Fajardo SMB he would be targeted by opposing post players. I don't know what happened but it lessened. But now and then you see him being man handled in the paint like by Troy in his last stint against SMB.

But Arwind was RSAs favorite he got a lot of leeway to chuck 3 pointers when he was still learning to shoot. He would have 1/6 or 1/9 3 pt shooting games and no one would comment on his inefficient 3 pt shooting. So I dont know if Balti will not be forced to play more on the inside in the PBA. International leagues dont have as many low post 4s and he can defend 3s. So Balti has a chance to get decent PT internationally.

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Nah. Arwind is not a great post defender. In the early years of the Fajardo SMB he would be targeted by opposing post players. I don't know what happened but it lessened. But now and then you see him being man handled in the paint like by Troy in his last stint against SMB.

But Arwind was RSAs favorite he got a lot of leeway to chuck 3 pointers when he was still learning to shoot. He would have 1/6 or 1/9 3 pt shooting games and no one would comment on his inefficient 3 pt shooting. So I dont know if Balti will not be forced to play more on the inside in the PBA. International leagues dont have as many low post 4s and he can defend 3s. So Balti has a chance to get decent PT internationally.

never said arwind, or any of the guys i mentioned, were great post defending players. i was just pointing out that not all lanky forward centers were forced to bulk up. those guys i mentioned are just examples of forward/centers who were not forced to bulk up to defend heftier bigs.

[JAMSKIE]

kai under DDO system? to give you idea watch kai’s u17 games and the “coach” of that team is the son of current coach of gilas and observe how the son uses kai..

Good point bro. Makes me think that if some posters here have been critical about coach Tab as they feel Tab hasn't utilized Kai enough in Kai's stint with Gilas senior team last year, then what makes these posters think that Kai would be utilized better under Chot Reyes with his DDO system?

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never said arwind, or any of the guys i mentioned, were great post defending players. i was just pointing out that not all lanky forward centers were forced to bulk up. those guys i mentioned are just examples of forward/centers who were not forced to bulk up to defend heftier bigs.

Yes. What Im saying all of those guys have weaknessess. Arwind was able to have success at PF because he played with June Mar. Troy is inconsistent even in the PBA. Oftana plays 3/4 but he is still a rookie. You are right Balti has a chance to keep his current physique but he cannot be main guy. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd guy. Rosser might be more useful than him in the PBA scene. If he will be taken as 1st pick there will be a lot of pressure for him to produce. Just look at Belo. He added muscle took the pounding and blew out his knee.

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Yes. What Im saying all of those guys have weaknessess. Arwind was able to have success at PF because he played with June Mar. Troy is inconsistent even in the PBA. Oftana plays 3/4 but he is still a rookie. You are right Balti has a chance to keep his current physique but he cannot be main guy. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd guy. Rosser might be more useful than him in the PBA scene. If he will be taken as 1st pick there will be a lot of pressure for him to produce. Just look at Belo. He added muscle took the pounding and blew out his knee.

yup, he can enjoy major success in the pba despite not being the "top dog" of a team. i mean, scottie isn't ginebra's main local. arguably, he's not even the 2nd or 3rd. but he's probably the MVP the season and arguably the new face of the league hehe. if he turns out to be a taller RDO or a more offensively polished Pingris, i would consider taht a major win.

[mathematicianrcg]

Good point bro. Makes me think that if some posters here have been critical about coach Tab as they feel Tab hasn't utilized Kai enough in Kai's stint with Gilas senior team last year, then what makes these posters think that Kai would be utilized better under Chot Reyes with his DDO system?

I actually like Coach tab as a coach. Very limited sample space to judge on how he used Kai. Since, Kai was just a late minute hugot last year.

But getting that aside. I wonder how Coach Chot will use Kai. If he will let Kai play as a Modern Big, or just an Abangers. Also, if he will give Kai Post touches.

Josh Reyes Make Kai an Abager when he was young and under develop. I wonder if the more experienced father coach will do the same mistake to the new and improved Kai.

We may see Kai this Fiba Asia Cup. But if not, (due to Nba or NBL or G league or Overseas Commitments)

maybe we will see Kai wearing gilas uniform. In 2023 pa.

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I actually like Coach tab as a coach. Very limited sample space to judge on how he used Kai. Since, Kai was just a late minute hugot last year.

But getting that aside. I wonder how Coach Chot will use Kai. If he will let Kai play as a Modern Big, or just an Abangers. Also, if he will give Kai Post touches.

Josh Reyes Make Kai an Abager when he was young and under develop. I wonder if the more experienced father coach will do the same mistake to the new and improved Kai.

We may see Kai this Fiba Asia Cup. But if not, (due to Nba or NBL or G league or Overseas Commitments)

maybe we will see Kai wearing gilas uniform. In 2023 pa.

Again for those who shortchanged Tab. He allowed Kai to attack Korea's NP in various ways. He was allowed to attack on the 2nd break. He was allowed to face up. Actually we saw Kai do more things on offense than in several games playing for Adelaide. Kai was able to put the ball on the floor and make plays. If that is not maximizing Kai, I don't know what is. Again, Kai's problem is stamina so you can't blame Tab for limiting his minutes when it was obvious his defense was getting slower the longer he was on the floor.