Future Big Men Of Philippine Basketball

[IPC]

hope UP can get him.

That would be nice for UP, and probably for Gilas.

He's behind Tamayo and probably Lina though.

[digitalsuperman]

That would be nice for UP, and probably for Gilas.

He's behind Tamayo and probably Lina though.

tamayo can play PF and he will be at C. plus this kid seems able to play both PF and C. yes gilas is also my thought since UP does not stop their players from playing gilas.

[IPC]

tamayo can play PF and he will be at C. plus this kid seems able to play both PF and C. yes gilas is also my thought since UP does not stop their players from playing gilas.

Crap, forgot about Diouf. Gagate would play behind him.

Also, I'm curious to see how Goldwyn Monteverde would use and develop him if ever he goes to UP. And, yeah, I see that he might be able to play PF. Like I said, he looks good enough size-wise and mobility-wise for the position.

[IPC]

tamayo can play PF and he will be at C. plus this kid seems able to play both PF and C. yes gilas is also my thought since UP does not stop their players from playing gilas.

Crap, forgot about Diouf. Gagate would play behind him.

Also, I'm curious to see how Goldwyn Monteverde would use and develop him if ever he goes to UP. And, yeah, I see that he might be able to play PF. Like I said, he looks good enough size-wise and mobility-wise for the position.

Oh, yeah, Tamayo can now play SF as well. Given that fact, if ever Gagate goes to UP, we might see a lineup of Tamayo-Gagate-Diouf on the frontline. That would be a sight to see.

Libre mangarap, but a few LSGH kids have gone to UP before.

And, yeah, he was also a Jr. NBA participant. Hope he has enough upside to take his talent abroad eventually.

[Alex07]

Take his projected height with a grain of salt, but if this kid would end up as a 6'8-6'9 guy I think he'll be a very serviceable big forward (even in FIBA windows) if developed correctly

[IPC]

Take his projected height with a grain of salt, but if this kid would end up as a 6'8-6'9 guy I think he'll be a very serviceable big forward (even in FIBA windows) if developed correctly

Yeah, I would take that projected height with a pinch of salt, not just a grain. He's already 17. He'd only grow 1-2 inches at most. But if he can competently play 4, 6'7"-6'8" is already a good height, especially if he's being taught to play in the block.

However, a bit of an issue is that he's a Letran Squire, so he might play behind a loaded frontline once he gets to the senior team, and his availability for Gilas might come into question.

[BJ_Reloaded]

Take his projected height with a grain of salt, but if this kid would end up as a 6'8-6'9 guy I think he'll be a very serviceable big forward (even in FIBA windows) if developed correctly

The mere fact that the community coach want to inculcate to the kid to dominate the inside because he wants the lad to maximize his presence within the paint only proves the basketball philosophy/perspective of this country on the grassroot level…the so called Leo Austria approach on Junemar…oh well.

[Rodbi]

As for Demisana, Salvoro, and Sollano, even if they are viewed as bigs, that's still OK, since they're 6'7"-6'8" and can play PF. That's enough, actually. That height will allow them to play in the post and defend the paint with less difficulty, if they do choose to play in the post.

As long as our 6'6"-6'8" bigs are able to play PF, pwede na rin siguro. Modern play style man or traditional, basta PF, pwede na. That said, I do like that we have bigs in that height range that are able to play PF.

Man.. Balti and Carl Tamayo might have set the bar too high for 6'6" and up kids aspiring to become game changers in PHL basketball. It's a good thing though that we now have a good number of young players in that height range, with some even seriously trying to become legit swingmen. Not all might make it and just reach their ceiling as a traditional 5 in PBA (still an achievement) but still, having bigs with potential as wing/perimeter player is a good problem for coaches to have these days, at least from a fan's perspective.

[IPC]

The mere fact that the community coach want to inculcate to the kid to dominate the inside because he wants the lad to maximize his presence within the paint only proves the basketball philosophy/perspective of this country on the grassroot level…the so called Leo Austria approach on Junemar…oh well.

To me, it's fine that a 6'7"-6'8" big learns to play inside, as long as he can play PF. A post game can be an asset, especially when matched up against more finesse bigs.

A problem will occur if that kid can only play center, and that will eat into his playing time, since imports in college and the PBA Commissioner's Cup usually play center.

[BJ_Reloaded]

To me, it's fine that a 6'7"-6'8" big learns to play inside, as long as he can play PF. A post game can be an asset, especially when matched up against more finesse bigs.

A problem will occur if that kid can only play center, and that will eat into his playing time, since imports in college and the PBA Commissioner's Cup usually play center.

The thing here is if the kid turns into the usual traditional big guy who doesn’t know how to dribble the ball to save his life in front of a solid defender, doesn’t know how to shoot mid-range jumpers and freethrows ala Rich Alvarez, Richard Del Rosario and Enrico Villanueva who until their last PBA games had a horrible work rate at that area. I hope that community coach reads my posted remarks and not be onion skinned but if the handlers only wants the kid to play only in the PBA, who we are to dictate his Jurrasic way of training but if their plan is to consider playing for Gilas on a regular basis then train the kid how to dribble the ball to save his life and his perimeter game..that’s my take on that kid.

[mathematicianrcg]

The mere fact that the community coach want to inculcate to the kid to dominate the inside because he wants the lad to maximize his presence within the paint only proves the basketball philosophy/perspective of this country on the grassroot level…the so called Leo Austria approach on Junemar…oh well.

Just develop all. Both perimeter and Inside Game.

His height and build will be useless if he do not have inside game too.

But yes, Like In US or Europe, Any height of a player must be taught all skills. both perimeter and inside

[IPC]

Just develop all. Both perimeter and Inside Game.

His height and build will be useless if he do not have inside game too.

But yes, Like In US or Europe, Any height of a player must be taught all skills. both perimeter and inside

Yeah, teach them all skills. General rule for any position. However, in my opinion, as I repeatedly say, a 6'7"+ big can be a low-post guy so long as he can play the 4, traditional man or more modern, perimeter-oriented.

As for the kid, OK naman as a post guy. Look at his build. And he's probably mobile enough to play PF and can grow up to 6'7"-6'8".

[IPC]

adopting to modern trend of basketball

Lotta traditional bigs adding a 3-point shot these days. It actually aids the slashers and gives other options. A big who can score both from the post and from the outside is a luxury to have.

Valančiūnas has been averaging career highs in points, 3-pointers attempted, and 3-point percentage. I think the 3-ball helped him score a bit more.

Shooting form is ugly but it works. Yeah he's already a good post player. Adding 3 point shooting would make him more valuable.

Vucevic as well. I don't recall him ever taking that many 3s when he was in Orlando.

Vuč has been taking over six threes a game before getting traded to the Bulls. But, yeah, point taken. He's been taking more threes, and he had been making them at a 40% clip last season.

Plus, he needs to take those shots to space the floor for LaVine, and now DeRozan (although to be fair, both of them are pretty decent shooters too).

6 attempts is considered normal for a big man.

More than that? Yeah, that's definitely a sign of changing times.

I actually think 4 is the normal range for a star big. But agreed, times are changing. Dominant low-post bigs are also able to shoot threes, and thus able to add another threat and another weapon to their arsenal.

Here we have low-post operators. In the PBA, there's June Mar Fajardo, Mo Tautuaa, Ian Sangalang, Greg Slaughter, and Jason Perkins. In Gilas, there's Carl Tamayo, Kai Sotto, Justine Baltazar, and even Angelo Kouame. Of those mentioned, only June Mar, Sangalang, and Greg haven't shown much ability from 3, and even then, they have at least a decent midrange jumper.

I think we're gonna continue producing decent-to-good FIBA-level bigs in the near future, especially with all the scouting reports of 6'6"-6'8" 15-17 year old kids. These kids could show the ability to play both 4 and 5. Some will be good low-post operators, whether as a PF or as a center. However, I think the best will have the ability to both play the post and shoot a jumper, whether from midrange or from the 3-point line.

[IPC]

In my opinion, our post game at the 4 and 5 positions will be our edge against East Asian teams bar China, and is another weapon we can use. I do hope we produce more good FIBA-level low-post operators, especially those who can play the 4 spot. Tamayo and Baltazar are a good start. We just need some more with potential. And I hope they keep being fed there.

[deku_midoriya]

Basketball will evolve depending on the success of this kid:



He has already proven in FIBA that he can dominate the inside even without an outside shot.