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  • Originally posted by alfrancis View Post
    Man, if we have Carl Tamayo during Patrimonio's era is a monster. I imagine him toying around Codinera, Realubit and other bigmen. PF's like Patrimonio, Asaytono, Alvin Teng, Dignadice would be way undersized for him.
    I don't think he could've defended Asaytono though. hehe too strong and crafty.

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    • Originally posted by alfrancis View Post
      Man, if we have Carl Tamayo during Patrimonio's era is a monster. I imagine him toying around Codinera, Realubit and other bigmen. PF's like Patrimonio, Asaytono, Alvin Teng, Dignadice would be way undersized for him.
      We could have fared better in the 1990, 1994, and 1998 Asian Games.
      Attack
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      • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
        Maybe it's just me but don't we already have that type in Carl Tamayo?
        Just needs a little more leadership and defense, but that will come with experience. He's assertive and tough, which is a start.

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        • Originally posted by Jackie Reaper View Post
          They should have been getting a cue on how Tab Baldwin is utilizing tall players at the same time.
          Yeah, Tab even plays Go and sometimes Chiu at 4 alongside Kouame. He often has either of Go, Tamayo, Baltazar, and Chiu, all of them standing at least 6'7", play the 4.

          I hope local youth and college coaches take the hint, especially when they have a promising 6'7"-6'8" big. In my view, it's important that bigs of that size are able to be developed to at least play 4, traditional man 'yan or otherwise.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            Yeah, Tab even plays Go and sometimes Chiu at 4 alongside Kouame. He often has either of Go, Tamayo, Baltazar, and Chiu, all of them standing at least 6'7", play the 4.

            I hope local youth and college coaches take the hint, especially when they have a promising 6'7"-6'8" big. In my view, it's important that bigs of that size are able to be developed to at least play 4, traditional man 'yan or otherwise.
            I agree. I'll even lower the limit to the currently prevailing "big" height of 6'5". Guys above that height should aspire to have body build and play style similar to Oftana's who now has decent enough handles and perimeter game, but should still have skills in the post, like Tamayo.

            Pinoy bigs should not bulk up too much as it would just limit their mobility and stunt their athleticism, but if they are JMF/Greggy boy-big (basically 6'9" and taller), then I guess it's alright to fill up but not to point where they will end up with higher risk to get seriously injured like the former.

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            • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
              I agree. I'll even lower the limit to the currently prevailing "big" height of 6'5". Guys above that height should aspire to have body build and play style similar to Oftana's who now has decent enough handles and perimeter game, but should still have skills in the post, like Tamayo.

              Pinoy bigs should not bulk up too much as it would just limit their mobility and stunt their athleticism, but if they are JMF/Greggy boy-big (basically 6'9" and taller), then I guess it's alright to fill up but not to point where they will end up with higher risk to get seriously injured like the former.


              Tamayo just got scouted,he's a 2 1/2 star,I thought he's a solid 3 or 3.5 at least.I believe he's good enough to be a top tier player in US Div2 at least.

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              • Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
                Tamayo just got scouted,he's a 2 1/2 star,I thought he's a solid 3 or 3.5 at least.I believe he's good enough to be a top tier player in US Div2 at least.
                His performance in the recent Gilas international games really did well for his stock, especially after showing wing potential in that size and frame of his.

                Nowhere to go but up for that kid i believe.

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                • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
                  His performance in the recent Gilas international games really did well for his stock, especially after showing wing potential in that size and frame of his.

                  Nowhere to go but up for that kid i believe.
                  Hopefully he can get stronger and work on his jumping so that he can more effectively play the 4. However, if he can, at the same time he should work on his lateral quickness to play the 3. We'll need his versatility and strength in the coming years.

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                  • Originally posted by robert0326
                    But If the bigs are only just 6'5 to 6'7 then wag nalang.. that 6'5 - 6'7 range should be a wing or a stretch 4 (ala RDO).. 6'9 should be the minimum height for a big man.. But bigs should be good at defending the perimeter, so that if switching happens or if a offensive big man has a shooting from the outside, He will have easy time to defend.. Our current bigs are slow to defend perimeters (Junmar, Greg, Japeth and Geo).. Although the 4 that i mentioned, Greg has that potential to be a good perimeter defender (Looking back at the game winning block against Norwood & ROS)...
                    Originally posted by IPC View Post
                    For 6'5"-6'6", kaya pa ang wing, like Oftana, Javi, Navarro, Kobe Paras, LeBron Lopez. 6'7" pataas, that's a big more often than not. Genetics, e. General rule for most Pinoys. But yeah, there's a slight chance for guys that size to be able to play and at least switch to the perimeter.
                    However, for bigs that are 6'7"-6'8", ideally we develop them into bigs who can play both 4 and 5, whether they have a traditional or modern skillset. As for being able to switch to the perimeter, I agree, but we haven't seen many bigs that can switch outside Baltazar and Tamayo. Chiu has played the 4 alongside Kouame. Bata pa, so he might have a chance if he can develop his lateral quickness and anticipation.

                    I hope the likes of Kurt Perciano, Kobe Demisana, Ramon Salvoro, and maybe Kemark Cariño are able to play the 4.

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                    • Fotu is only around 6' 8 really, if you can play like this, that will be sufficient for Gilas , honestly . especially alongside or substituting with Kouame

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                      • Future Gilas Men/Women big? Congrats Japeth and Cassie

                        https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/life...ild/story/?amp

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                        • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
                          Future Gilas Men/Women big? Congrats Japeth and Cassie

                          https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/life...ild/story/?amp

                          Congrats. Imagine their offspring with Japhet's height and athleticism and Cassie's basketball IQ! LOL

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                          • Originally posted by kukikups View Post
                            https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/t...ext-gen/221544

                            Anyone who knows who the new one is?
                            Originally posted by alex15 View Post
                            Matt Aquino from MPBL
                            Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                            and he’ll play as a local..
                            Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                            and will play in division 1 team..
                            Hope the kid can develop into a reliable 4/5. He can add to our bigman depth. Guy's 6'8".

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                            • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                              Aside from, JF, CS, and Greg, most big men have decent outside shot. But you can always play 4 out system. I don't particulate like 5 out plays because of the lower chance of an offensive rebound. Thou in NBA right now they rather go back to defense than getting offensive rebounds.
                              As for bigs, it's not the outside shot I'm concerned about these days. I'm talking about our bigs' (especially the taller ones, 6'7"-6'8") ability to play 4, which would be helped if they were to play alongside a taller import. Of course, the jumper helps.

                              Pero kung development as fours, it's a conversation better suited for the collegiate and HS leagues, and probably PBA teams with a tall big who's 22-24yo.
                              Last edited by IPC; 10-11-2021, 01:59 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
                                According to the article Shinshu management is willing to invest on his development thus, the 3 year contract, so yeah expect Matt to sit a lot this year as he is a project for Shinshu

                                https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/m...arriors/221798

                                Shinshu, which was promoted to B1 two years ago, is willing to invest in Aquino’s development.

                                And the only way Aquino will repay the trust given to him is by improving every day.

                                “Dun kami nagulat dun sa three-year offer,” he said. “Right now, the goal is to improve every day and take it step-by-step. I just want to improve myself and madami pa ako kailangang patunayan, hindi lang sa iba, kung hindi sa sarili ko.
                                I hope Shinshu can develop him into an effective big who can play 4 and 5. He looks like he can play both positions.

                                I also hope that his time in Japan would make him worthy of a Gilas stint.

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