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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    Lepalam and Gagate are with the La Salle system, and Lantaya is with Letran. That's gonna present some difficulty when Gilas asks for them.

    Personally, I hope Lantaya becomes a good low-post player like Larry Muyang was. That's going to be an asset. A 6'9" guy who can post up is going to be a huge mismatch in PH basketball. I also hope he can play the 4.
    Maybe SBP can talk with the handlers of Lepalam & Gagate for their possible stint with Gilas (ASAP) just like what SBP did with Justin Baltazar despite Baltazar being from La Salle? With Lantaya, maybe we'll wait nalang after he graduates from Letran before he can join Gilas (Pero para sa akin, medyo late na yun). I hope Salvoro ends up playing for Ateneo. The same goes with Demisana. I feel both Demisana & Salvoro are good enough that they can join Gilas at the early age of 18 (kahit training pa lang). I think Lepalam & Gagate would be ripe for Gilas training when they reach 19 or 20 yrs old.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
      ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

      We now have the materials eh. I mean, having current & projected 6-foot-8/6-foot-9/6-foot-10 in the youth level is now common unlike 2 or 3 decades ago. I remember, during the early 90's, parang subrang big deal na talaga that we had 6-9 Marlou Aquino, 7-foot EJ Feihl, 6-9 Bonel Balingit & 6-7 Chris Bolado.

      Pinoy basketball players are getting bigger & unlike those "tall" Pinoy players that we had in the 90's like Feihl, Balingit & Bolado who were slow, clumsy & not that skilled, yung mga current "tall" players natin are in the different level. Karamihan sa kanila nakakapag dribble, nakaka tira sa labas, aren't awkward or clumsy, & are mobile.

      We now have the materials but what we lack is a good system. Having the current Gilas program headed by Tab Baldwin is a good start. But I feel, we still need significant improvement in the system, in particular how we develop or groom our young good size bigs. The idea here is for for the likes of Lantaya, Lepalam, Demisana, Salvoro, Gagate, etc. to join the Gilas program as early as possible. Unfortunately, some of our tall big young hopefuls are handled by the evil forces, hence they can't commit to the Gilas program as of now.
      Good news is, Demisana's in UP and Salvoro's in Ateneo de Cebu.

      UP is actually quite national-team friendly, since they just let the GDL brothers join the Gilas pool for the Feb. 2020 window, and Tamayo and Javi joined for the June 2021 window.

      Hopefully, more promising bigs go to UP or Ateneo. Good news is, UP got Demisana and Tamayo, while Ateneo got Kyle Ong. And I hope UP hires the foreign coach, or Monteverde, so they can further develop the bigs.

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      • Going Blue, Maroon & Tamaraw would be good for Gilas prospects.

        Huwag lang sila mapunta sa mga war freak - archers & knights.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
          Maybe SBP can talk with the handlers of Lepalam & Gagate for their possible stint with Gilas (ASAP) just like what SBP did with Justin Baltazar despite Baltazar being from La Salle? With Lantaya, maybe we'll wait nalang after he graduates from Letran before he can join Gilas (Pero para sa akin, medyo late na yun). I hope Salvoro ends up playing for Ateneo. The same goes with Demisana. I feel both Demisana & Salvoro are good enough that they can join Gilas at the early age of 18 (kahit training pa lang). I think Lepalam & Gagate would be ripe for Gilas training when they reach 19 or 20 yrs old.
          Originally posted by IPC View Post
          Good news is, Demisana's in UP and Salvoro's in Ateneo de Cebu.

          UP is actually quite national-team friendly, since they just let the GDL brothers join the Gilas pool for the Feb. 2020 window, and Tamayo and Javi joined for the June 2021 window.

          Hopefully, more promising bigs go to UP or Ateneo. Good news is, UP got Demisana and Tamayo, while Ateneo got Kyle Ong. And I hope UP hires the foreign coach, or Monteverde, so they can further develop the bigs.
          I really hope that we will now continue to move forward with the development of our players. I hope that all of the basketball parties in our country will cooperate with one another! Without the unity, we will always be limited. I hope that finally all of the parties can work with one another for the betterment of Philippine Basketball. We have not 1, not 2 but a bunch of players that we can develop! We now have the pieces guys! All that is left is for the people with power (SBP,PBA,COLLEGE TEAMS and ETC) to do what's right.

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          • ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

            SBP & Tab Baldwin being able to convince Baltazar's handlers (Delta) to allow him to train & play for Gilas was a significant achievement for Phi basketball. It showed that with good strategy & will power, SBP can circumvent the "evil" spots of Phi basketball. Ika nga eh, SBP has to learn how to sidestep a few landmines to get to its desired place.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

              SBP & Tab Baldwin being able to convince Baltazar's handlers (Delta) to allow him to train & play for Gilas was a significant achievement for Phi basketball. It showed that with good strategy & will power, SBP can circumvent the "evil" spots of Phi basketball. Ika nga eh, SBP has to learn how to sidestep a few landmines to get to its desired place.
              There shouldn't be even any landmines in the first place but yes it is what is. That Baltazar move to Gilas at least is a great step towards unity! All of our best players/prospects should be available. We never know about the PBA’s commitment in the future but at least our best young prospects are going oversees with Fiba Clauses. Even Kiefer technically can play for us for November but I am not so sure about the specifics with his contract with Shiga. Baltazar’s move to Gilas also shows that we can possibly have the best young prospects commit for us in the future. Unfortunately for our Pros in the PBA, the situation is not as clear but I really hope that the SBP and the PBA can cooperate more than the Gilas Draft. If Bolick/Kiefer and the other guys can join then they should!

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              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                Good news is, Demisana's in UP and Salvoro's in Ateneo de Cebu.

                UP is actually quite national-team friendly, since they just let the GDL brothers join the Gilas pool for the Feb. 2020 window, and Tamayo and Javi joined for the June 2021 window.

                Hopefully, more promising bigs go to UP or Ateneo. Good news is, UP got Demisana and Tamayo, while Ateneo got Kyle Ong. And I hope UP hires the foreign coach, or Monteverde, so they can further develop the bigs.
                Whether UP or Ateneo, it's a win-win for me haha. I'm just a bit wary of UP after what happened to Will Gozum and his development. Seems like Bo could only think of using him as a C, here's to hoping the next coach is more of a visionary. Imo Gozum could have filled a Will Navarro role next to Bright at the very least.

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                • Originally posted by Stevy View Post
                  There shouldn't be even any landmines in the first place but yes it is what is. That Baltazar move to Gilas at least is a great step towards unity! All of our best players/prospects should be available. We never know about the PBA’s commitment in the future but at least our best young prospects are going oversees with Fiba Clauses. Even Kiefer technically can play for us for November but I am not so sure about the specifics with his contract with Shiga. Baltazar’s move to Gilas also shows that we can possibly have the best young prospects commit for us in the future. Unfortunately for our Pros in the PBA, the situation is not as clear but I really hope that the SBP and the PBA can cooperate more than the Gilas Draft. If Bolick/Kiefer and the other guys can join then they should!
                  In a perfect world, there should be no landmines. But Phi basketball is far from a perfect world. Long Hair obviously laid a lot of landmines in Phi basketball.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by FITL View Post
                    Whether UP or Ateneo, it's a win-win for me haha. I'm just a bit wary of UP after what happened to Will Gozum and his development. Seems like Bo could only think of using him as a C, here's to hoping the next coach is more of a visionary. Imo Gozum could have filled a Will Navarro role next to Bright at the very least.
                    Goldwyn Monteverde's the new coach. I hope he can replicate what he did for Tamayo. Lina might be a start. Hopefully Monteverde can get him to play the perimeter.

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                    • Originally posted by FITL View Post
                      Whether UP or Ateneo, it's a win-win for me haha. I'm just a bit wary of UP after what happened to Will Gozum and his development. Seems like Bo could only think of using him as a C, here's to hoping the next coach is more of a visionary. Imo Gozum could have filled a Will Navarro role next to Bright at the very least.
                      I'm not a fan of either Ateneo or UP but since these schools (together with FEU) are National team friendly schools while Letran & La Salle aren't, then I won't mind that Ateneo, UP & FEU would monopolize the marque or good quality players in Phi college basketball.

                      Of course not that I condone such act, its just that whatever it takes to benefit Philippine basketball, National team in particular, then I'll take it.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                        In a perfect world, there should be no landmines. But Phi basketball is far from a perfect world. Long Hair obviously laid a lot of landmines in Phi basketball.
                        Agree, I hope Al Francis Chua will do a 180 degree turn and cooperate for the betterment of Philippine Basketball. If he only cared about the National Team, we should have been more successful especially in 2015.

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                        • Originally posted by Stevy View Post
                          Agree, I hope Al Francis Chua will do a 180 degree turn and cooperate for the betterment of Philippine Basketball. If he only cared about the National Team, we should have been more successful especially in 2015.
                          I truly believed that if JMF, Japhet, Super Ubo, LA, Lee & Greg were allowed by SMC to be in that 2015 team with the MVP group plus Blatche ( sama mo pa si Parks and TR) , the PHL would have qualify to play in Rio Olympics.

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                          • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                            I truly believed that if JMF, Japhet, Super Ubo, LA, Lee & Greg were allowed by SMC to be in that 2015 team with the MVP group plus Blatche ( sama mo pa si Parks and TR) , the PHL would have qualify to play in Rio Olympics.
                            Not to mention adequate preparations.

                            One problem we will always have with having a foreign coach is him not being given enough time to implement his system.

                            Tab basically just used Chot's system with a few alterations.
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                            • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                              I truly believed that if JMF, Japhet, Super Ubo, LA, Lee & Greg were allowed by SMC to be in that 2015 team with the MVP group plus Blatche ( sama mo pa si Parks and TR) , the PHL would have qualify to play in Rio Olympics.
                              Originally posted by interxavierxxx View Post
                              Not to mention adequate preparations.

                              One problem we will always have with having a foreign coach is him not being given enough time to implement his system.

                              Tab basically just used Chot's system with a few alterations.
                              Facts dude, no question. Hands down we would have qualified especially when we consider how far we reached in 2015 and our performance in the 2016 OQT. In an alternate universe, imagine if in 2015 all of the basketball parties back then was united to the progression of basketball in the Philippines. Aside from maybe Troy being developed properly into a three, all of our prospects back then would have been developed nicely like Balty/Tamayo. It sucks that we started late but it is better than never. Our best players at that time would have also had enough preparation with tab. It isn’t crazy to see the Philippines being a top 20-25 team right now if we did. We would have Gold in 2015, Played in the olympics, Better finish in 2017, better finishes in the windows, better performance in 2019 which we could have qualified in the Olympics as the best asian team. If only the basketball parties acted sooner than later man. Sayang talaga, in my opinion 2015 was the best chance.

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                                ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

                                We now have the materials eh. I mean, having current & projected 6-foot-8/6-foot-9/6-foot-10 in the youth level is now common unlike 2 or 3 decades ago. I remember, during the early 90's, parang subrang big deal na talaga that we had 6-9 Marlou Aquino, 7-foot EJ Feihl, 6-9 Bonel Balingit & 6-7 Chris Bolado.

                                Pinoy basketball players are getting bigger & unlike those "tall" Pinoy players that we had in the 90's like Feihl, Balingit & Bolado who were slow, clumsy & not that skilled, yung mga current "tall" players natin are in the different level. Karamihan sa kanila nakakapag dribble, nakaka tira sa labas, aren't awkward or clumsy, & are mobile.

                                We now have the materials but what we lack is a good system. Having the current Gilas program headed by Tab Baldwin is a good start. But I feel, we still need significant improvement in the system, in particular how we develop or groom our young good size bigs. The idea here is for for the likes of Lantaya, Lepalam, Demisana, Salvoro, Gagate, etc. to join the Gilas program as early as possible. Unfortunately, some of our tall big young hopefuls are handled by the evil forces, hence they can't commit to the Gilas program as of now.
                                Plus, we need the talented 6'6"-6'9" bigs to be the ones getting the ball so they can develop, whether as fours or centers (preferably fours if 6'8"-6'6"). Involve them in the offense, whether in handoffs, PnR/PnP action, or in the low post. We shouldn't limit them to just cleaning the glass.

                                If we could get RDO and Danny Ildefonso to coach these bigs, we could look at an explosion of 6'7"-6'9" bigs.

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