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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostBTW, looking at Phi basketball in the last 30 years, who do you think among our National team big men who played up to par to was/were able to hold their own against the other bigs in Asian basketball?
For me, a standout is Alvin Patrimonio despite being an undersized big man at only 6-foot-3. Although Alvin was a power forward, in old school basketball a power forward or a four was considered as a big man. Alvin was able to hold his own or even outplayed defenders who were 3 to 4 inches taller than him. A four-time Asian gamer (played in 1986, 1990, 1994 & 1998 editions of Asian Games), Patrimonio was at his best during the 1994 Hiroshima Asian Games, though his costly miss free throw in the battle for 3rd place vs. Japan cost us the bronze medal.
I think Benjie Paras is another undersized Pinoy big man who could have performed well in international basketball but Benjie only had limited stints with the National team. I think Benjie would have been good for the 1994 & even the 1998 Asian Games.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostBTW, looking at Phi basketball in the last 30 years, who do you think among our National team big men who played up to par to was/were able to hold their own against the other bigs in Asian basketball?
For me, a standout is Alvin Patrimonio despite being an undersized big man at only 6-foot-3. Although Alvin was a power forward, in old school basketball a power forward or a four was considered as a big man. Alvin was able to hold his own or even outplayed defenders who were 3 to 4 inches taller than him. A four-time Asian gamer (played in 1986, 1990, 1994 & 1998 editions of Asian Games), Patrimonio was at his best during the 1994 Hiroshima Asian Games, though his costly miss free throw in the battle for 3rd place vs. Japan cost us the bronze medal.
I think Benjie Paras is another undersized Pinoy big man who could have performed well in international basketball but Benjie only had limited stints with the National team. I think Benjie would have been good for the 1994 & even the 1998 Asian Games.
NOT IN ORDER
1. Caloy Loyzaga - No Question
2. Don Ramon Fernandez
3. Alvin Patrimonio
4. Benjie Paras
5. Asi Taulava
6. Pingris (to an extent)
7. Soon, Kai and AJ will be here.
They have different playstyles. But one thing common they share is they have the Mobility even if they are Playing as a Big
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Originally posted by tomcat View Post2003 and 2005 ABC Championships(Asi Taulava).."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostI am too young. But based on articles,reserach, and history. I think these are the Names:
NOT IN ORDER
1. Caloy Loyzaga - No Question
2. Don Ramon Fernandez
3. Alvin Patrimonio
4. Benjie Paras
5. Asi Taulava
6. Pingris (to an extent)
7. Soon, Kai and AJ will be here.
They have different playstyles. But one thing common they share is they have the Mobility even if they are Playing as a Big"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostBTW, looking at Phi basketball in the last 30 years, who do you think among our National team big men who played up to par or was/were able to hold their own against the other bigs in Asian basketball?
For me, a standout is Alvin Patrimonio despite being an undersized big man at only 6-foot-3. Although Alvin was a power forward, in old school basketball a power forward or a four was considered as a big man. Alvin was able to hold his own or even outplayed defenders who were 3 to 4 inches taller than him. A four-time Asian gamer (played in 1986, 1990, 1994 & 1998 editions of Asian Games), Patrimonio was at his best during the 1994 Hiroshima Asian Games, though his costly miss free throw in the battle for 3rd place vs. Japan cost us the bronze medal.
I think Benjie Paras is another undersized Pinoy big man who could have performed well in international basketball but Benjie only had limited stints with the National team. I think Benjie would have been good for the 1994 & even the 1998 Asian Games.Last edited by hmbopbaduwap; 04-16-2021, 09:44 AM.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostBTW, looking at Phi basketball in the last 30 years, who do you think among our National team big men who played up to par or was/were able to hold their own against the other bigs in Asian basketball?
For me, a standout is Alvin Patrimonio despite being an undersized big man at only 6-foot-3. Although Alvin was a power forward, in old school basketball a power forward or a four was considered as a big man. Alvin was able to hold his own or even outplayed defenders who were 3 to 4 inches taller than him. A four-time Asian gamer (played in 1986, 1990, 1994 & 1998 editions of Asian Games), Patrimonio was at his best during the 1994 Hiroshima Asian Games, though his costly miss free throw in the battle for 3rd place vs. Japan cost us the bronze medal.
I think Benjie Paras is another undersized Pinoy big man who could have performed well in international basketball but Benjie only had limited stints with the National team. I think Benjie would have been good for the 1994 & even the 1998 Asian Games.
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Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View PostAfter watching again the 94 Asian Games against Korea on Allan Caidic's youtube channel, Benjie would have been a good match up against Seo, Benjie's face up game and atlethicsm would have posed some problems on Seo laterally
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Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View PostAfter watching again the 94 Asian Games against Korea on Allan Caidic's youtube channel, Benjie would have been a good match up against Seo, Benjie's face up game and atlethicsm would have posed some problems on Seo laterally"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by alfrancis View PostI remember somebody said that we need another Benjie Paras to be an Asian champion."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Yup, specially in that game vs. Japan which was his best game in the tournament. I think Asi in 2007 & 2009 Asian Championships was a bit old already"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostI can't recall Asi Taulava playing in those tournaments. 2003 ABC Men's Championship, we sent an all-amateur team with RDO & Garry David, if I'm mistaken. Then in the 2005 ABC, suspended tayo at that time.
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Originally posted by tomcat View PostWhat I'm trying to say is Asi would be a monster if the PBA had send an all-pro team in the 2003 ABC Men's Championships and in 2005 if we had not been suspended by FIBA..
I'm confident an all-pro team led by Taulava, Danny Seigle, Caguioa, Hontiveros, Alapag, Miller, Helterbrand, Renren Ritualo, would have finished a with a silver medal in 2005. I believe we were better than Lebanon (eventual silver medalist) by that time. South Korea was fragile at that time as their team was made up mostly of aging & washed up players. Iran & Jordan were not yet that strong in the mid-2000's."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by live_evil View Post2002 Asi Taulava was the best big man in Asia not named Yao Ming."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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