Future Big Men Of Philippine Basketball

[JAMSKIE]

Guys, how are young bigs Umpad & Lepalam developing? Are they your traditional big men or are they your modern day bigs - quick, mobile & has an outside game? And how tall are they right now?

[TheRodster21]

Even when FSA's were allowed, I think Arellano didn't have an FSA. Arana was a center for Arellano from the get-go, being the tallest in that team. Being the tallest in a Pinoy team, he gets parked in the middle. Shame he can't develop into a small-ball 4 in the NCAA without the FSA's.

Hay, nako. Our local 6'6"-6'8" bigs have to be trained to play alongside FSA's as a forward. Thing is, even if those local bigs have the ability to play alongside FSA's, coaches usually play them behind the FSA.

I think the problem is with development in high school. Since there is no fsa, taller players are automatically relegated to Center position and that’s 4-5 years from ages of 14-19 playing Center during crucial development years where a player is still figuring out and developing into what kind of player they are\will be. I think once they come to college they already have a position they are already trending towards, they are recruited from high school playing that position. The development playing other positions needs to come earlier.

Maybe by training in the pros or seniors or allowing fsa in high school but something needs to happen as well for high school

[IPC]

I think the problem is with development in high school. Since there is no fsa, taller players are automatically relegated to Center position and that’s 4-5 years from ages of 14-19 playing Center during crucial development years where a player is still figuring out and developing into what kind of player they are\will be. I think once they come to college they already have a position they are already trending towards, they are recruited from high school playing that position. The development playing other positions needs to come earlier.

Maybe by training in the pros or seniors or allowing fsa in high school but something needs to happen as well for high school

Coupled with the fact that there is little conception of small-ball if there is a player who measures 6'4" and above, ayun. Plus, looks like those taller players aren't given enough freedom to play from the perimeter, which exacerbates the problem.

Hopefully coaches train their centers here to play more like Chris Bosh or AD (versatile, can drive and shoot, mobile) than say, Zaza Pachulia (good paint defender and rebounder, solid midrange that's it)

[thatweirdguy]

Arellano have FSA's before, Charles Mammie and Dioncie Holts are played atleast 1 season in Arellano..

Arellano had a strong lineup before but they always underperformed. Heck one of their strongest lineup gets defeated by the Super 6

[TheRodster21]

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draftexpress A message from @mikeschmitzscouting to the young big men out there: Study the nuances of elite pick-and-roll defenders as much as you study dominant offensive players

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1373702637191794690

That Loyola Chicago win is a great example of why every NBA team is looking for bigs who can switch/guard PnR. It’s almost impossible to stay on the floor in the NBA if you can’t defend a ball screen. One of the big reasons why Evan Mobley projects so well at the next level.

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[TheRodster21]

The Center of Loyola reminds me a bit of Jokic or Go, I think they called him a point Center. He’s good

[mathematicianrcg]

You should include JDV (6'7), Kelly Williams (6'7), Aldrech Ramos (6'7), Jaime Malonzo (6'7)

They are 6'6 in site I used. Maybe not updated and inaccurate.

But yeah they belong to that list

[thatweirdguy]

They are 6'6 in site I used. Maybe not updated and inaccurate.

But yeah they belong to that list

I thought Aldrech was only 6'4 when he was measured in the draft..

[tootch]

I thought Aldrech was only 6'4 when he was measured in the draft..

hahaha. this is funny tho Ramos listed 6’6” in the UAAP and FIBA. In the PBA he’s 6’4” plus, i don’t know how accurate the PBA measurement even the imports are getting smaller here. if lebron is 6’8” he will be 6’5” here.hahaha. Here in interbasket height is always the debate. kahit konti lang ang difference..hehehe

[thatweirdguy]

hahaha. this is funny tho Ramos listed 6’6” in the UAAP and FIBA. In the PBA he’s 6’4” plus, i don’t know how accurate the PBA measurement even the imports are getting smaller here. if lebron is 6’8” he will be 6’5” here.hahaha. Here in interbasket height is always the debate. kahit konti lang ang difference..hehehe

I thought he was 6'7 when he was with FEU. They say they take their height when your lying down so it was supposed to be accurate though I have no idea how some imports pass the height requirements. Some are obviously made up. Which is why I was asking if they were strict with their draft measurements this year because some grew an inch or two

[IPC]

Guys, how are young bigs Umpad & Lepalam developing? Are they your traditional big men or are they your modern day bigs - quick, mobile & has an outside game? And how tall are they right now?

I think both are still around 6'8".

[IPC]

Is there any assessment on Kyle ong and his role for Gilas. Also interested to know how Lopez is faring so far

Tab did say Ong would make a good wing for Ateneo. I'd assume he'd have the same role in Gilas.

6'8 with good mobility the kid has potential. It seems with Balti, Tamayo and Ong, Gilas's pipeline for a big wing is set.

Tbh I don’t think he has the athleticism\mobility of a true wing but I think he can be in the mold of Tamayo or Balti, mobile versatile 4 or 5

Even if Ong (and Baltazar and Tamayo for that matter) 'only' ends up becoming a mobile versatile 4-5, that's still a win for us. Now we are getting some true small-ball bigs who compensate for their lack of size with versatility. What's more, these guys can play PF, which is what I want from our young 6'6"-6'8" bigs. They have the size and mobility for the position. Hoping for more in the future.

[DAdmiral]

Even if Ong (and Baltazar and Tamayo for that matter) 'only' ends up becoming a mobile versatile 4-5, that's still a win for us. Now we are getting some true small-ball bigs who compensate for their lack of size with versatility. What's more, these guys can play PF, which is what I want from our young 6'6"-6'8" bigs. They have the size and mobility for the position. Hoping for more in the future.

The presence of Ange, Kai and hopefully AJ for the next 10 years at least.. kind of allows all other bigs ( or tall players- 6' 7 above) to focus on being more of a forward...

[thatweirdguy]

I think that is after Jalalon era of AU.. Their best runs is from 2014 - 2016.. Pinto, Forrester, Jalalon, Salado, Flores are main players of AU, but they always lost to SBU twice in the finals...

They also got Cadavis, Holts and Caperal as the main bigs. Even the earlier lineups weren't that bad with the Ciriacruz bros , Acidre, Celada

[C2Hamm]

They also got Cadavis, Holts and Caperal as the main bigs. Even the earlier lineups weren't that bad with the Ciriacruz bros , Acidre, Celada

if we are talking AU, Orly Daroya. dude was a stud during college.