Future Big Men Of Philippine Basketball

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Lol. Sino ba kasi center of terra.

Camson, Adams, Aldrech.

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Russel Escoto, they traded CJ because they needed a big man. Hahaahahahahaah

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PBA Draft " BIGS" in 2021 Draft

Pba is still a Big Man dominated league. You need a legit quality big man to win a ring. For sure, these Bigs will be drafted or signed by pba teams.

1. Ben Adamos - 6'7" PF/C

2. Rey Acuno - 6'7" C

3. Seraj Elmerjrab - 6'8" C

4.Brandon Rosser - 6'7" PF/C

5. Ken Holmquist - 6'8" C

6.Wowie Kadir - 6'4" PF/C

7. Larry Muyang - 6'6" PF/C

8.Andre Paras - 6'4" PF/C

9.Troy Rike - 6'8' PF/C

10. Santi Santillan - 6'4" PF

11. James Laput - 6'10 C
Special Draft

1. John Rangel - 6'7" C

PS: Yes, I know they are all undersized maybe except Laput and the 6'7" Guys. Wala e. No 6'11 above Bigs

PSS: Honestly, Adamos, Rosser, Muyang, and Rike for me are the best quality "BIGS"

https://bgsm.hoops.ph/look-complete-list-of-pba-season-46-draft-applicants/

[hmbopbaduwap]

I agree with Jamskie.

Danny S is very lucky. He was able to play the 3 position. Because Coach Jong uses Danny I at 4 and Pena at 5.

Meaning, they are not lacking in Bigs. If you remove Danny I in that team, I would say Danny S will play 4 and Pena at 5.

Coach Jong actually have slight modern style rin naman.

As for Kelly, he was a 3 in Sta Lucia also. Kelly at 3, Dennis Espino at 4, and Marlou Aquino at 5. That is MVP Kelly.
Then he is converted to Modern 4/5 in TNT cause of lack of Bigs (They only had Ali peek)

That trend is the opposite of IPC's Modern 4 to Wing 3 transition.

Instead, this is Wing 3 to Modern 4 transition.

Will be the converse be as effective? I hope and think so.

Jong even had Danny S. moonlighting at the 2 spot when they had Terquin Mott as import back in '99

SMB's 5 at the 1999 Commissioner's Cup Finals Game 6

C Terquin Mott
PF Danny I.
SF Freddie Abuda
SG Danny S.
PG Racela

[IPC]

spoken to Mason and family, (he's part of our NBTC team ) and Tab.. and we've got a good idea of what we're looking for him to look like, (essentailly combo forward, call it swing or whatever...) , Mason's stroke is a beauty , he's got a basketball mind, reads well. has good size and length (easily 6'7') he's not athetic for world standards.. so Ingles comes to mind.,.. having said that we're still working on his motor... just being a good all around conditioned athlete

He's coached by Mika Vukona (nZ great) , and i asked Pero (NZ coach to guide) , his situation in Queensland cannot be replicated in Manila.. especially now..

There is a reason why he's in the New Zealand team (my team) and not the Australian team in NBTC, his parents are actually Kiwi..
Queensland stats in many ways is NZ's hotbet of kiwi players

I agree, combo forward is best case scenario for Mason. Solid passer too for his age. How is his ball handling?

Because he plays in Australia and is given the opporuntnity to play in the perimeter with reps , he will always have better ball handling than local homegrown bigs, but let's be realistic because of lack of speed he will never be a natural wing who can slide down to playing the two guard. Having said that like i said he can always do an Ingles , and be like a point forward that is very plausible , especially with developed skill and his IQ

Like i said, i see him as a 4 so im not expecting any wing-level agility from him. All he needs is enough ballhandling to attack closeouts.

At least Mason has the opportunity to play from the perimeter. So, he's probably more like a JDV or RDO than Danny Seigle, which is OK. We're in need of bigs who have that play style anyway.

It should really be a general rule that our young bigs know how to play from the perimeter from the get-go. Handle, shoot, switch, attack closeouts. Play like combo forwards. However, they'll have to work with that while being the biggest kid on the floor. Mason on the other hand, I assume, doesn't have that problem.

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At least Mason has the opportunity to play from the perimeter. So, he's probably more like a JDV or RDO than Danny Seigle, which is OK. We're in need of bigs who have that play style anyway.

It should really be a general rule that our young bigs know how to play from the perimeter from the get-go. Handle, shoot, switch, attack closeouts. Play like combo forwards. However, they'll have to work with that while being the biggest kid on the floor. Mason on the other hand, I assume, doesn't have that problem.

Yup agreed.

The problem is I think in our HS Leagues, 6'6-6'7 Bigs have a Very big mismatch in the post if he is being guarded by 6'2 Bigs. Wala namang masama dun, taking advantage. But As you said, We hope our Young Bigs to atleast have freedom to play from the perimeter even sometimes.

Just play 4 out or 5 out. And, if you want to take advantage in the post, fine. But, not always. It is better to have multiple options.

LOL. I AM LEANING TOWARDS MODERN BASKETBALL. BUT I REALLY LOVE POSTUPS TOO. Integrating Postups in Modern Nba will be a sight to see.

BUT FOR 6'4-6'5 PLAYERS, COACHES SHOULD LEARN THAT THEY ARE NOT A BIG. THEY ARE GUARDS OR WINGS. THAT IS TOO SMALL.

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At least Mason has the opportunity to play from the perimeter. So, he's probably more like a JDV or RDO than Danny Seigle, which is OK. We're in need of bigs who have that play style anyway.

It should really be a general rule that our young bigs know how to play from the perimeter from the get-go. Handle, shoot, switch, attack closeouts. Play like combo forwards. However, they'll have to work with that while being the biggest kid on the floor. Mason on the other hand, I assume, doesn't have that problem.

Exact reason why nanghihinayang ako with tamayo. Him at 16, for me, was further along skill-wise than amos right now. But amos will have the experience and repetition to further expand his game compared to tamayo who is still training post moves.

[JAMSKIE]

Danny Seigle is an old school small forward while RDO & Devance are both old school big men (fours/power forwards) who happen to have pretty decent outside shooting & ball handling.

I see Mason Amos as a cross between Seigle & RDO in terms of skill set.

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Exact reason why nanghihinayang ako with tamayo. Him at 16, for me, was further along skill-wise than amos right now. But amos will have the experience and repetition to further expand his game compared to tamayo who is still training post moves.

Hope he have freedom to play perimeter pa rin. Even if he have solid post moves.

BUT MAYBE THIS MEANS KOBE AT 3

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Danny Seigle is an old school small forward while RDO & Devance are both old school big men (fours/power forwards) who happen to have pretty decent outside shooting & ball handling.

I see Mason Amos as a cross between Seigle & RDO in terms of skill set.

Id argue that danny s was an old school 2-guard and jdv was an old school 3. Tho i agree rdo is a lazy comparison to amos.

[TheRodster21]

https://www.firstpost.com/sports/nba-in-guards-league-big-man-princepal-singh-getting-restricted-minutes-on-floor-for-g-league-ignite-9381751.html/amp?__twitter_impression=true

“It’s hard for me to judge his nine minutes in today’s game. As you have seen throughout this season, this is not a league for big men. This is a guards’ league,” Shaw told Firstpost. “Most of the teams we have here have at least four guys on the floor between 6’3” and 6’6”. The biggest guy on the floor a lot of the times is 6’7”. Maybe 6’8”. They’re all fast. They can all shoot from the outside. They can all handle the ball. That’s not something that Prince is accustomed to facing. So it was hard to put him into a lot of the games, because you want to try and put him in into the game in a position where he can succeed. With our numbers being down, he got a little bit of time today. He’ll get some more time on Saturday. Hopefully, it’ll be a good experience and he will understand what he’s going to need to work on to get better if it’s in his intention to try and make it to the next level.”


Thought this quote from coach Brian Shaw was interesting, this is very much the trend in the nba though right now Jokic and Embiid are killing it but overall the trend is the above ^

[Juan Lun]

https://www.firstpost.com/sports/nba...mpression=true
“It’s hard for me to judge his nine minutes in today’s game. As you have seen throughout this season, this is not a league for big men. This is a guards’ league,” Shaw told Firstpost. “Most of the teams we have here have at least four guys on the floor between 6’3” and 6’6”. The biggest guy on the floor a lot of the times is 6’7”. Maybe 6’8”. They’re all fast. They can all shoot from the outside. They can all handle the ball. That’s not something that Prince is accustomed to facing. So it was hard to put him into a lot of the games, because you want to try and put him in into the game in a position where he can succeed. With our numbers being down, he got a little bit of time today. He’ll get some more time on Saturday. Hopefully, it’ll be a good experience and he will understand what he’s going to need to work on to get better if it’s in his intention to try and make it to the next level.”


Thought this quote from coach Brian Shaw was interesting, this is very much the trend in the nba though right now Jokic and Embiid are killing it but overall the trend is the above ^

I think Shaw has been fair in handling Singh et al. He has provided a platform where the players are not treated as superstars based on their name or draft stock but on how they perform on the court (which is a realistic approach on how an NBA team will treat a player). For me even if Singh was not able to get much in game playing time, he was able to improve through gained experience playing at a higher level with elite players and coaches/system during practice and scrimmages. He also was able to get next level training not just through physical aspect but basketball IQ/mental approach.

[TheRodster21]

I think Shaw has been fair in handling Singh et al. He has provided a platform where the players are not treated as superstars based on their name or draft stock but on how they perform on the court (which is a realistic approach on how an NBA team will treat a player). For me even if Singh was not able to get much in game playing time, he was able to improve through gained experience playing at a higher level with elite players and coaches/system during practice and scrimmages. He also was able to get next level training not just through physical aspect but basketball IQ/mental approach.

Yup also gleague teams tend to use 6’7-6’8 centers which is similar to what is happening in the Philippines but they aren’t traditional bigs. Watching the highlights it seems Princepal had problems guarding the perimeter and interior as well. But according to coach Shaw he’s the one who has improved the most out of all the prospects which makes sense since he’s the one that probably had to start from a lower point playing in India and having to get used to the level of athleticism and physicality displayed

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Exact reason why nanghihinayang ako with tamayo. Him at 16, for me, was further along skill-wise than amos right now. But amos will have the experience and repetition to further expand his game compared to tamayo who is still training post moves.

I'm quite resigned with Tamayo being a stretch 4. As much as I want him to be a 3, it's simply too late for him to fully develop into one.

[Sikatrix]

Exact reason why nanghihinayang ako with tamayo. Him at 16, for me, was further along skill-wise than amos right now. But amos will have the experience and repetition to further expand his game compared to tamayo who is still training post moves.

Can Tamayo even train post moves? hahaha

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Carl is training dtibbling and perimeter shots in his new videos though.

I think he is being trained to be all around