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  • I think for a "four" Kobe's ball handling is good enough, though of course it wud be wise for him to continue to polish it. His shooting also needs a lot of polishing. I don't know if Kobe puts special attention in improving his handles & shooting. I hope he does. Kobe should really focus on his handles & shooting during individual training. Kalimutan muna nya for a while yang mga dunks na yan & all those streetball stuffs & just focus on the basic aspects of the game. In today's high tech world, there are those designated drills/training/techniques that intended to improve one's ball handling & shooting. Kobe should avail of those stuffs & work extra hard in training. Ma improve lang ni Kobe yung ball handling & shooting nya, malaking bagay na yan sa badketball career.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
      I kind of said this a while back but I see Kobe as our Charles Barkley, undersized Uber athletic pf, he’s strong yet can still jump out the gym just lacks consistency with skills but I saw his defense and what he brought to the table beyond the stats with Thailand. You can tell the Thai team never gave him a chance to shine when he was on the floor allowed everyone else on the team to flourish. Even the sencond game Jakrawan ate the local centers Alive they still got blown out because they couldn’t defend anyone else but everyone could guard anybody on the Thai team not named Jakrawan
      I would be happy if Kobe develops into someone like Kelly Williams, perhaps with a better shooting than Kelly. Suspect rin kasi kahit medium range shot ni Kelly, but defensively, Kelly was brilliant & he also rebounds well.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
        or he can be our gabriel deck

        He looks like someone Baltazar could emulate.

        Found this scouting report from 2013 Draftexpress

        Gabriel Deck was pretty much unstoppable last summer at the U17 World Championship, averaging 22 points in 30 minutes per game shooting 67% inside the arc, but things were a lot different in Portland, where his lack of size and athleticism, as well as the fact that he was 12-18 months younger than most of the players he faced, made him look very ordinary. Measured at 6-7, 228 pounds, without a great wingspan, Deck is very much stuck between positions at the moment, not possessing the perimeter shooting ability, ball-handling skills or explosiveness needed to transition to the wing full time, and being severely undersized to play inside. He's a very competitive player with a high basketball IQ and solid scoring instincts, but you could tell he was at a disadvantage from the very first moment he stepped on the court, as besides his limitations physically, he was the only player on the roster who didn't speak any English and needed a full-time translator as well. Similarly to Nikola Ivanovic, Deck was also not riding a great deal of momentum back home in Argentina, as he only played 6 minutes per game this season in his first division club Quimsa, who were just eliminated from the playoffs before he left for Portland. Moving forward, Deck will need to improve his outside shooting and ability to defend the perimeter if he's to avoid being relegated to a role as an undersized big man at the professional level. Players his size have made it at the power forward position in good leagues in Europe, but it would help his cause a great deal if he could stretch the floor a little more effectively. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Gabriel-Deck-7011/ ©DraftExpress

        Many similarities to Kobe but I think his game is also very similar to Balthazar other than wingspan

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        • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
          He looks like someone Baltazar could emulate.

          Found this scouting report from 2013 Draftexpress

          Gabriel Deck was pretty much unstoppable last summer at the U17 World Championship, averaging 22 points in 30 minutes per game shooting 67% inside the arc, but things were a lot different in Portland, where his lack of size and athleticism, as well as the fact that he was 12-18 months younger than most of the players he faced, made him look very ordinary. Measured at 6-7, 228 pounds, without a great wingspan, Deck is very much stuck between positions at the moment, not possessing the perimeter shooting ability, ball-handling skills or explosiveness needed to transition to the wing full time, and being severely undersized to play inside. He's a very competitive player with a high basketball IQ and solid scoring instincts, but you could tell he was at a disadvantage from the very first moment he stepped on the court, as besides his limitations physically, he was the only player on the roster who didn't speak any English and needed a full-time translator as well. Similarly to Nikola Ivanovic, Deck was also not riding a great deal of momentum back home in Argentina, as he only played 6 minutes per game this season in his first division club Quimsa, who were just eliminated from the playoffs before he left for Portland. Moving forward, Deck will need to improve his outside shooting and ability to defend the perimeter if he's to avoid being relegated to a role as an undersized big man at the professional level. Players his size have made it at the power forward position in good leagues in Europe, but it would help his cause a great deal if he could stretch the floor a little more effectively. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Gabriel-Deck-7011/ ©DraftExpress

          Many similarities to Kobe but I think his game is also very similar to Balthazar other than wingspan
          He looks like a nice small-ball 4. Definitely a player both Kobe and Baltazar could emulate. Skill-wise, he's more similar to Baltazar than Kobe. Hope Baltazar becomes a better transition player, and hope Tab develops him to be one. Hope Kobe can be a more perimeter-oriented version of Deck.

          I'd like to note that the scouting report was actually made in a time when small-ball wasn't much of a thing in the NBA. It only worked for the Heat at the time, because they were the best team during that period. In this period, tweener forwards barely had a place in the NBA. They only became a thing after GSW's success with Draymond as a big.

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          • I've just watched a video of the championship game between Iran & Gilas (minus the injured Marcus Douthit) in the 2013 FIBA Asia Championship. We were able to keep the Iranians at bay in the 1st half but when Hamed Haddadi took over in the 2nd half, Iran took control of the game & pulled away in the 4th quarter. Haddadi was just unstoppble inside the shaded lane. Once he got the ball deep down low, its almost a sure 2 points for him. He was just too big & strong for our big men.

            I think without Haddadi (& Gilas without Douthit), I think Gilas would be 50/50 vs. Iran. Our "fours", wings & guards can match up well against their Iran counterparts. Dehado lang talaga tayo sa center position. Haddadi was really the difference maker. A huge factor in both offense & defense. With Haddadi you got a solid scorer inside, a reliable rebounder & a formidable rim protector. That has been Iran's advantage with Haddadi in tow.

            I hope that with Kai Sotto getting elevated to our senior National team, it would be our turn to have that advange.

            Of course having Kai won't be enough. We still would need, good quality & good size wings, reliable point guards (which traditionally is our strength), good enough "fours" & of course good coaching. I'm optimistic, we will have all these things mentioned.
            Last edited by JAMSKIE; 01-18-2021, 10:42 AM.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
              or he can be our gabriel deck

              Combination of Gabriel Deck and Mitch Creek. Kobe needs to have that upper body strength while improving his outside shooting.Another thing that Kobe could improve is his motor, he needs to learn how to play long minutes without tiring himself out that much.

              "How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale

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              • Originally posted by Alex07 View Post
                Combination of Gabriel Deck and Mitch Creek. Kobe needs to have that upper body strength while improving his outside shooting.Another thing that Kobe could improve is his motor, he needs to learn how to play long minutes without tiring himself out that much.

                Hopefully other local 6'6"-6'8" bigs can use them as examples, develop their games so that they can play like Deck or Creek. Some already have a motor, hopefully they can use that to develop lateral quickness to stay on perimeter guys.

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                • Originally posted by robert0326
                  Speaking of Zhou Qi.. He's already finished product.. Always injured prone.. Now again suffering another injury.. Hope not serious..


                  https://cj.sina.com.cn/articles/view...2&tj=none&tr=9
                  But he's only 25 years of age at kaka birthday lang nya. How can a 25-year old player be considered a "finished product"? The way I understand it, when we say finished product, that means wala na talagang e improve yung player. I don't think Zhou Qi will no longer improve.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                    But he's only 25 years of age at kaka birthday lang nya. How can a 25-year old player be considered a "finished product"? The way I understand it, when we say finished product, that means wala na talagang e improve yung player. I don't think Zhou Qi will no longer improve.
                    The question is if Zhou is really 25. We know China is a cheater when it comes to ages.

                    Seeing Kobe's name here makes me ask: Where the hell is Kobe Paras? Why is he not in the bubble?
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                    • Originally posted by robert0326
                      Well.. he has tons of injuries already.. Mahirap bumalik sa beast mode if you are injured proned!! Look at D.Rose.. He can still play but he's mentally weak right now because he will be worry about his injuries.. Marami ng player ang nadale ng ganyan because of always injured...
                      Yeah. I've seen this with the Bulls, even after D-Rose (who by the way is still playing well as a super-sub). They have a talented core (Coby White, Zach LaVine, Lauri Markkanen, Wendell Carter Jr.), but they're often out due to injuries. Hard for them to establish any rhythm if they keep getting injured. More time's spent on rehab than on developing their games. Nasasayang ang potential at oras, e.

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                        • Originally posted by Alex07 View Post
                          the key is to produce a lot of guys who are at least 200 cm./6'7" tall and has all the necessary skills.Athleticism,dribbling,shooting/form etc. This is where the Philippines' problem lies. If we have 5 young players with the height and skills of Kobe Paras (local born and raised), 5 young players with the height and skills of Christian David (foreign born) and 5 young players (at least 14 years old) with the height and skills of Ron Harper (players with foreign blood), that would not be a problem.

                          That may be remedied, at least, by a little bit, if the 200cm players are exposed early to a system which encourages them to develop from the perimeter. 5-out man or GSW system or triangle (where taller players are also given a chance to handle e.g. Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoč, Lamar Odom, JDV), basta they can develop skills for the modern game. Ideally, these guys are made to learn the forward positions first, so that they can take advantage of their versatility in the future if they play center, and/or so that they can better complement Kai and Kouame.

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                          • Originally posted by IshmaelM View Post
                            I think Balti has the length to defend the post. But it seems a conscious decision for him and his handlers to not add weight. He might have been too light against Jakrawan but he was still our best defender. He was a nightmare on switches and traps with his height, length and mobility. Part of the reason their guards couldnt get going. I think he played the most minutes in the 2nd game for this reason. I think this is slso the reason why Tab wants to convert him to SF if he can.
                            Baltazar converted into a wing would be great for the Gilas program. However, even if he's a combo forward at best after Tab trains and drills him, that would still be a good outcome, as we finally have a 6'7" defender who can switch on the perimeter.

                            Hopefully, more 6'6"-6'8" bigs are trained to defend the perimeter, more like power forwards than centers.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Baltazar converted into a wing would be great for the Gilas program. However, even if he's a combo forward at best after Tab trains and drills him, that would still be a good outcome, as we finally have a 6'7" defender who can switch on the perimeter.

                              Hopefully, more 6'6"-6'8" bigs are trained to defend the perimeter, more like power forwards than centers.
                              i'm pretty sure Kobe can take in this role too as well as tamayo, but not as athletic than either Balti or Kobe
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                              • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                                i'm pretty sure Kobe can take in this role too as well as tamayo, but not as athletic than either Balti or Kobe
                                Agree with your points. Hopefully Kobe can develop his timing, skills, and anticipation, and Tamayo develops his athleticism.

                                Hopefully, more 6'6"-6'8" bigs can follow in their footsteps when it comes to skillsets.

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