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Originally posted by IPC View PostExactly. Our bigman development here's way behind. We're the most in need of developing versatile bigs, why can't majority of local coaches see this?
If the development can result to win. They will do it.
But usually, that not's the case. If you are developing someone or some players. Losing will be a big part of it.
And if the coach lose.they will be fired. Hence, no job.
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostBecause they are paid to win, and not to develop.
If the development can result to win. They will do it.
But usually, that not's the case. If you are developing someone or some players. Losing will be a big part of it.
And if the coach lose.they will be fired. Hence, no job.Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostCoach M was able to slightly develop perimeter skills of Tamayo and Quiambao, because they are winning at the same time.
But it is a rare case
People forget, if you wanna stay on top for longer, especially if you're not a hot destination for recruits, you'll have to develop players to succeed the stars you have.
However, I do agree that teams with a modern big as the 5 have to win for that style of development to become a trend. But if that should be the case, why don't the other high school teams follow Monteverde's example in developing Tamayo and Quiambao?
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Originally posted by interxavierxxx View PostOT: Really like Bam Adebayo’s style of play. He’s 6’9-6’10 but can hold his own against 7 footers offensively and defensively.
If there is one big man our local 6’8-6’10 bigs should look up to, it’s Bam.
Locally, I think Ping is the closest to Bam on defense. Hopefully we produce 6'6"-6'8" bigs who play like both. Coaches have to get their bigs used to defending the perimeter. It's gonna help them win, come on. At least experiment.
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Originally posted by IPC View PostThat's not OT. You're absolutely right, our bigs should look up to Bam. He's a versatile player on both ends, and as you said, he can hold his own against bigger players.
Locally, I think Ping is the closest to Bam on defense. Hopefully we produce 6'6"-6'8" bigs who play like both. Coaches have to get their bigs used to defending the perimeter. It's gonna help them win, come on. At least experiment.GILAS WISHLIST:
6'8 Pingris
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Originally posted by interxavierxxx View PostWhat I absolutely love is his PnR skills. The guy is a legit PnR big man who can finish.
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Originally posted by robert0326That's why i mentioned it in Big man forum that we should also focus on other bigs likes of Chiu, Kirkness, etc..., Because we all know Kai and AJ will be not always available.. After 2023 eh we don't have now luxury to do some experimentation because we don't have hosting schedule ahead of us.. We need to qualify via winning qualifiers.. So development will be step back and focus to win.. So giving experience to Chiu, Kirkness, etc..., should be also priority by SBP now.. If they think it that way...
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Originally posted by IPC View PostExactly, we will have to develop the other bigs. Not just Chiu and Kirkness, but also Baltazar, Go, Cariño, Tamayo, Quiambao, Cortez, Ong. Apart from Chiu and Kirkness, hopefully they get used to playing the 4-spot.
SBP,should id which big men,are good enough for which tournment.Say Chiu and Kirkness will be good enough for SEA GAMES,Jones Cup or ASIAN GAMES and beyond that,they maybe good enough as a backup big men in case,there's injury or the main bigs are no show for some reason or another.
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Originally posted by interxavierxxx View PostOT: Really like Bam Adebayo’s style of play. He’s 6’9-6’10 but can hold his own against 7 footers offensively and defensively.
If there is one big man our local 6’8-6’10 bigs should look up to, it’s Bam.
Let's say we produce a more mascular,physically and mentally tough, no none sense version of Japeth Aguilar (6'9-6'10 with 7'2 wingspan) with the Defensive IQ of Pingris and the touch of Ranidel.Thats a rare Filipino athlete, but not impossible.
"How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale
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Originally posted by IshmaelM View PostCaperal seems to have average wingspan and no explosiveness. It is not obvious because he is fat for a bball players but Beau is explosive for a local of his weight and has decent wingspan. This makes Beau a decent rim protector at the PBA level. Caperal is a good shooter and seems to have high offenze BBIQ but his below average length and lateral mobility limits his upside. If you want to see a similar player with a higher ceiling look at Go. Similar height but longer wingspan and better team defender.
Yeng may have his faults, but he actually aided in the development of the Extra Rice into modern bigs. Versatile bigs on offense. They're strong (and a little overweight) bigs, but are quite quick, and have the skills of a guard, especially Beau. Good thing there are traces of his bigman development program in RoS after he left, which helped develop Ponferada and Torres into more versatile bigs on offense.
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Originally posted by IPC View PostThat's not OT. You're absolutely right, our bigs should look up to Bam. He's a versatile player on both ends, and as you said, he can hold his own against bigger players.
Locally, I think Ping is the closest to Bam on defense. Hopefully we produce 6'6"-6'8" bigs who play like both. Coaches have to get their bigs used to defending the perimeter. It's gonna help them win, come on. At least experiment.
To put it into perspective, imagine a half-a-ruler taller Vic Manuel, then put at least 30 more pounds of muscles on him, and more than 15 inches of additional arms-reach.
For me, he's a less scary but more athletic version of another "undersized" big, Ben Wallace
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Originally posted by Dotch View PostWell Bam maybe short in InterBasket PH's big-man's standards, but he is NO way small. He has a 7'3 wingspan and weighs 255 lbs of pure chiseled muscles.
To put it into perspective, imagine a half-a-ruler taller Vic Manuel, then put at least 30 more pounds of muscles on him, and more than 15 inches of additional arms-reach.
For me, he's a less scary but more athletic version of another "undersized" big, Ben Wallace
Ben Wallace who can pass and dribble a bit is a good comparison.
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