Future Big Men Of Philippine Basketball

[IPC]

I dont want to be nega to Coach Bo but i cant help it. So if Tamayo's improvement is the one we want to lean on.... under Coach Bo, has UP bigs really developed? Im not holding my breath. I have a bit more hope that Chiu can be a taller Isaac Go just because of the organisation/team he is in

'Yun lang, we can only hope for the kid's work ethic if he's gonna be under Perasol. Sariling sikap, ika nga.

[thatweirdguy]

I dont want to be nega to Coach Bo but i cant help it. So if Tamayo's improvement is the one we want to lean on.... under Coach Bo, has UP bigs really developed? Im not holding my breath. I have a bit more hope that Chiu can be a taller Isaac Go just because of the organisation/team he is in

Serious question. Who would you rather invest in as the future 4 man of GILAS. Tamayo or Paras?

[shamuibilog]

Serious question. Who would you rather invest in as the future 4 man of GILAS. Tamayo or Paras?

both of them

[ARMIR]

Serious question. Who would you rather invest in as the future 4 man of GILAS. Tamayo or Paras?

Neither one of them really wants to play 4 in international games,we've seen Tamayo play 3 with Batang Gilas,and he improved and seems comfortable playing the position in small dosed,Kobe in Asian level is very comfortable in the 3 position.

[IPC]

Aljon Mariano's another guy our local 6'6"-6'8" bigs could emulate. Dependable midrange shot, OK-ish handling, hard worker, mobile enough to defend the perimeter, strong enough to defend the post.

Hope some bigs can be taught his skillset, plus a good 3-ball.

[Alex07]

So there. Cariño, Baltazar, and Go were just abused by Chanathip Jakrawan inside. Hope our young bigs (Tamayo, Quiambao, Cortez, Chiu) are exposed to senior competition early.

to be fair they did ok although Chanatip is the size of a center,our guys are mostly the size of power forwards.Jakrawan's length and above average athleticism set him apart from our bigs.Me thinks that the real acid test for our big players is Iran,same with Jakrawan, if they could handle the middle eastern team's power forwards and centers, they're all good.

[IPC]

to be fair they did ok although Chanatip is the size of a center,our guys are mostly the size of power forwards.Jakrawan's length and above average athleticism set him apart from our bigs.Me thinks that the real acid test for our big players is Iran,same with Jakrawan, if they could handle the middle eastern team's power forwards and centers, they're all good.

Baltazar could actually develop at the 4-spot. He looks like he has the mobility for the position. However, he should really train to defend the perimeter, because a lot of 4s can shoot. That doesn't mean he should not get stronger also, but it's preferable that he focus on mobility.

[TheRodster21]

Baltazar could actually develop at the 4-spot. He looks like he has the mobility for the position. However, he should really train to defend the perimeter, because a lot of 4s can shoot. That doesn't mean he should not get stronger also, but it's preferable that he focus on mobility.

getting stronger depending on how hes trained will help with mobility and speed

[sajubeads]

My minimum expectation for them to crack 2023 Final 12?

Tamayo - atleast a Taller Version of RDO.

Chiu - I dont think he can crack the lineup unless he dominates in Uaap.

Cortez -Yes. Injury prone.

So in the 3 of them. I only see Tamayo as having a chance.

But Tamayo need to be atleast in RDO level. Nothing less than that

I think we can include these guys in the pool for experience purposes and earmarked for 2023 and beyond, realistically 2027 WC na....With Kai, AJ, Kuoame as shooin, possibly Baltazar and Go as the 4th man, there is minimal chance for any of this guys to crack the 2023 team...So sina Dave, Lebron, Koon, Tamayo, Quaimbao could practice with the pool and might even play in some Window games leading to the 2023 World Cup but realistically they are still raw for 2023 WC...Kita into naman laro ni Dave as compared to other guys even against lowly Thais....

Unless Tamayo slims down and be sent for intense Skills training like in TSF, I dont see him as a SF prospect and even PF for Gilas.... He is a twinner actually slow to play both Forward position internationally...Had he committed to Ateneo under Tab, baka pwede pa, but under Bo good luck to him... We have seen the transformation of Javi naman under Tab...

[mathematicianrcg]

I think we can include these guys in the pool for experience purposes and earmarked for 2023 and beyond, realistically 2027 WC na....With Kai, AJ, Kuoame as shooin, possibly Baltazar and Go as the 4th man, there is minimal chance for any of this guys to crack the 2023 team...So sina Dave, Lebron, Koon, Tamayo, Quaimbao could practice with the pool and might even play in some Window games leading to the 2023 World Cup but realistically they are still raw for 2023 WC...Kita into naman laro ni Dave as compared to other guys even against lowly Thais....

Unless Tamayo slims down and be sent for intense Skills training like in TSF, I dont see him as a SF prospect and even PF for Gilas.... He is a twinner actually slow to play both Forward position internationally...Had he committed to Ateneo under Tab, baka pwede pa, but under Bo good luck to him... We have seen the transformation of Javi naman under Tab...

Seriously, Seeing how bad/terrible Troy is playing now. Being OUTPLAYED BY PERKINS AND MARIANO. AGAIN AGAINST PERKINS AND MARIANO!!!!?. IT IS DIFFERENT IF HE WAS OUTPLAYED BY JMF,JAPETH, CSTAND. BUT PERKINS AND MARINO. HELL NO.

I am willing to replace him by Tamayo. And bet on Tamayo.

Ganun din naman. Troy is a sure bust in innternational. Why not try Carl. We never know.

[IPC]

Seriously, Seeing how bad/terrible Troy is playing now. Being OUTPLAYED BY PERKINS AND MARIANO. AGAIN AGAINST PERKINS AND MARIANO!!!!?. IT IS DIFFERENT IF HE WAS OUTPLAYED BY JMF,JAPETH, CSTAND. BUT PERKINS AND MARINO. HELL NO.

I am willing to replace him by Tamayo. And bet on Tamayo.

Ganun din naman. Troy is a sure bust in innternational. Why not try Carl. We never know.

Let's be fair to Perkins. Despite being 6'4", he's still a star for Phoenix. Being outplayed by Aljon, on the other hand, oh boy. At least Troy made up for it last night when he scored 15 on Aljon and Arvin.

The thing with Troy is that he wasn't trained to be like RDO. RDO had a post game, and can drive and defend. Troy, on the other hand, is far more limited. Just 3s, cuts, and putbacks. And despite his athleticism, he can't defend.

Hope Tamayo can be more like RDO than Troy in the international setting.

[thatweirdguy]

Let's be fair to Perkins. Despite being 6'4", he's still a star for Phoenix. Being outplayed by Aljon, on the other hand, oh boy. At least Troy made up for it last night when he scored 15 on Aljon and Arvin.

The thing with Troy is that he wasn't trained to be like RDO. RDO had a post game, and can drive and defend. Troy, on the other hand, is far more limited. Just 3s, cuts, and putbacks. And despite his athleticism, he can't defend.

Hope Tamayo can be more like RDO than Troy in the international setting.

Troy is a role player. To me he's a taller more athletic Trollano. Tamayo doesn't have his quickness or explosiveness. He looked like an RDO clone in the making in HS but you never know how they turn out. Arvin is supposed to be an RDO clone too..

[IPC]

Troy is a role player. To me he's a taller more athletic Trollano. Tamayo doesn't have his quickness or explosiveness. He looked like an RDO clone in the making in HS but you never know how they turn out. Arvin is supposed to be an RDO clone too..

Trollano's a better shooter and defender, though.

As for Arvin, he's not exactly the post player RDO was. He plays more like a wing, and honestly hope he can develop like one.

Tamayo naman, well, ayun. Let's hope he works hard enough to be another RDO, or maybe better than that.

[IPC]

Kobe is actually emulating the wrong kind of players. Like his father, he is more of a 4-5. To be useful in a national team, he should be looking and studying more a player like draymond green, who also happens to be an extra short pf and c at only 6'5.5-6'6 like kobe.

Kita naman sa maraming videos ang diskarte ni draymond para yariin mga magagaling na bigs. Huwag nang dunk ng dunk at para sa mga bobang laglag-panty na mga bubae at bakla lang matuwa duon, dahil lusotlusotan naman mga 3s sa depensa niya at napakababa din shooting percentage niya.

He could also be useful like kelly williams. But williams is also a poor outside shooter, suited more for dunkathons.

Actually. This should apply to our other bigs, who are already undersized. I've been saying this a lot, train our bigs more like Draymond (and others, like JDV, Kelly, Perkins) instead of the classic low-post bigs. This would fit better in international play.

[IPC]

Tamayo should train with Danny I. to learn some post moves and footwork.. He needs that to be next RDO.. or should someone tell RDO to teach Tamayo in the near future..

I'd prefer RDO himself. Danny I is a more classic big, while RDO is a modern big. I think we'd want more modern bigs, because that would suit the 6'6"-6'8" guys better.