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  • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
    i think you guys are defining point forward loosely..basta magaling mag dribble na more than 6'6 can be called point forward na.
    yeah, point forward means you have the size and skills like of kobe or gabe and bbiq of a pg like la tenorio.
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    • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
      And can pass and create their own shot.
      not really, hedo turkoglu was a point forward for dwight howard-era orlando magic. he is a good perimeter player but can't create his own plays (driving to the hoop) but he has good ballhandling and court vision to compensate that. imagine joe devance.
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      • Originally posted by interxavierxxx View Post
        There aren't that many SF prospects to be begin with. The only ones who are proven to be legit small forwards are BRP, Kobe, and Tamayo.

        We need to set a benchmark as far as height is concerned. We don't produce that many 6'8+ guys so our small forwards will likely be at the 6'5-6'7 range.
        Brp and kp yes, not sure with tamayo. He doesn’t see a lot of time in the 3-spot, but he has potential definitely. 6’5-6’7 as sf, ok n tayo—international size na yan. Maybe not NBA size, but enough against euro teams.

        Originally posted by Dotch View Post
        Agree. Historically, for the PHL NT, SF or the 3 is the hardest position to fill . We put the SMALL in the Small Forward position... Prior to Norwood, the best we had were Duremdez, Meneses and Caidic. They were our best SFs, and they were not more than 6'3 tall. Tim Cone experimented on playing Jun Limpot at the 3 in 1998, and the guy didnt even leave the bench in the bronze medal game.

        i think the closest guy we have, in terms of international standard for SF, in size, length and athletic ability is Troy Rosario, but as we see now, he's not really effective playing the 3 in a long stretch. Maybe in spots, but not the entire game.

        Height and length dont always translate to being successful. Skills to play a specific position, inherent or acquired need to be present too. so let's not force the likes of Matt Aquino, however tall and athletic he is, to play SF, if he doesn't have the ability and capability to acquire the skills needed to play that position.
        Originally posted by Marlon View Post
        I don't agree, some of big boys now , specially on high school, to name the few are, lina of UST, andrada and lazaro of red cub, cortez of la salle are mobile, they are running and rely mostly on quickness, if they learn how to play point forward, they can play small forward or even big guard
        Maybe because he played very little international games for us, but we are forgetting danny siegle. He’s my ideal SF for us, both size-wise and skill-wise.

        Problem with the rosarios and the other young kids wth potential to play as the 3, they dont get enough exposure playing the position. Due to their size, they get more playing time as 4’s or maybe even 5’s. Nakakahinayang.

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        • Belga is the only one whom you can probably call point forward here.

          Well theres Gabe too

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          • point forward for me depends on how the coach decides who handles the ball,however if you are a small forward it should be a necessity for the guy to have very good handles(very good would be enough).
            "How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale

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            • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
              Brp and kp yes, not sure with tamayo. He doesn’t see a lot of time in the 3-spot, but he has potential definitely. 6’5-6’7 as sf, ok n tayo—international size na yan. Maybe not NBA size, but enough against euro teams.
              I think he has a chance in the U19 WC. We have enough big men to handle the front court duties. Hopefully, coach Sandy can see to it.
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              • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
                Brp and kp yes, not sure with tamayo. He doesn’t see a lot of time in the 3-spot, but he has potential definitely. 6’5-6’7 as sf, ok n tayo—international size na yan. Maybe not NBA size, but enough against euro teams.





                Maybe because he played very little international games for us, but we are forgetting danny siegle. He’s my ideal SF for us, both size-wise and skill-wise.

                Problem with the rosarios and the other young kids wth potential to play as the 3, they dont get enough exposure playing the position. Due to their size, they get more playing time as 4’s or maybe even 5’s. Nakakahinayang.
                The only solution is to keep them to national pool and compete internationally a minimum truce a year, ala gilas 1, regular practice and scrimmage will develop them

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                • Originally posted by interxavierxxx View Post
                  I think he has a chance in the U19 WC. We have enough big men to handle the front court duties. Hopefully, coach Sandy can see to it.
                  I hope Tamayo explore USNCAA. He could be our next Christian H. He has the height, heft, decent ball handling.

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                  • there are 6’5-6’6 locals that has enough skills to play small forward,although most of us would like to see a very athletic 6’6 player in our team.The challenge is to produce an international or at least US div.1 caliber player,maybe we could produce 1 or 2 in a few years.Right now,we will still be heavily dependent on fil-foreign kids for the 3-5 positions.As for the guards,we have lots of them locally.Hopefully, we’ll find more passport bearing AJ Edu(s) and Kai Ballungay(s) in the US or wherever to fill in the height and talent gap.
                    "How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale

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                    • Originally posted by kamokamo View Post
                      I hope Tamayo explore USNCAA. He could be our next Christian H. He has the height, heft, decent ball handling.
                      The best avenue for him to US NCAA is a impressive stint in this coming world U19, for sure, international basketball scouts will pour also in China

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                      • Originally posted by Marlon View Post
                        The best avenue for him to US NCAA is a impressive stint in this coming world U19, for sure, international basketball scouts will pour also in China
                        The ceu import in d league is 6'11/7'0 and Matt Aquino looks at least 2 inches shorter than him

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                        • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
                          The ceu import in d league is 6'11/7'0 and Matt Aquino looks at least 2 inches shorter than him
                          Yes, but Matt is not active, almost not felt his presence specially on offensive end, it's look like cariňo and pangalanan are better than him

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                          • Originally posted by Marlon View Post
                            Yes, but Matt is not active, almost not felt his presence specially on offensive end, it's look like cariňo and pangalanan are better than him
                            He better be drafted to a good big man coach. CYG will discipline him if his attitude on the court doesn't change.

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                            • https://www.spin.ph/basketball/ex-ma...20190417-fbnew

                              In the last few months, I've had a few injuries, partial MCL and ACL tears, so it's been a tough year for me," the 20-year-old said. "It's hard for me to bounce back and it keeps me down, but I never wanted that. I just wanted to keep going and going."

                              Occasionally, Pangalangan shows glimpses of his enormous potential while playing for Go for Gold-CSB in the 2019 PBA D-League.

                              He fired 13 points and three rebounds in the Scratchers' 102-87 win over Batangas-EAC last April 4, an obvious improvement from his averages of 4.0 points and 1.6 boards per outing.

                              Pangalangan, though, is frank to admit that he's still far from the player he desires himself to be, especially with his grand ambition in his rookie season.

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                              • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
                                He better be drafted to a good big man coach. CYG will discipline him if his attitude on the court doesn't change.
                                What's our biggest complain about Marlou Aquino? That he lacked motivation and was lazy. He needed a Jaworski to whipped him to perform, but had drifted and checked out when Jawo stopped coaching. Maybe the son is the same as the father.

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