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  • #46
    Originally posted by jason_28c
    Norwood may not played in the coming fiba asia if his paper is incomplete.... Pls comment.............
    Where did you find the source, that his papers could not be found?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by jason_28c
      Norwood may not played in the coming fiba asia if his paper is incomplete.... Pls comment.............
      why not bring her mother with him as a proof?..joke!
      It's ironic to see limited efforts from players with maximum salary.
      I wish they would apply "sabermetrics" in those financially challenged PBA teams to acquire players who are value for their money.

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        • #49
          Let DOJ issue Norwood a Filipino Passport....other documents to follow....hehe
          SMART GILAS: all the way

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          • #50
            No doubt all his papers will be arranged accordingly. And may I stress, legally.

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            • #51
              Hala, lagoooot?

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              • #52
                Generation away

                If his ancestry is long been mixed up wtih hawaiin,black-american race..........thus it make you a filipino?.........just like ancestry of the african-american slave they are not already considered africans.........he is an american with filipino ancestry

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                • #53
                  i naturalized na lang kasi and then let the media do the talking again that he's indeed got a pinoy ancestry
                  Someone under 5 feet can be a great coach, don’t get me wrong, but to be a big man coach and have never played in the post or even played high level ball? C’mon now.


                  - Jamal Sampson

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                  • #54
                    The birth certificate of his grandmother which is one of the important pertinent document is missing. We have so many cases of missing birth certificate in our country specially during the 1940's - 50's.

                    “Hindi ko na inaano ‘yun (mapasama sa pool) eh,” Santos said. “Kung susumahin mo ang buhay naming mga player, ‘san ba talaga ang first priority namin, ‘di ba? Ang first priority ko, dahil dito ko nakuha lahat ng kagandahan ng buhay ko at para sa pamilya ko, ang San Miguel. Alam naman ng lahat ‘yun. Ito ang dapat kong paglingkuran.”

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Sakamoto
                      The birth certificate of his grandmother which is one of the important pertinent document is missing. We have so many cases of missing birth certificate in our country specially during the 1940's - 50's.
                      its out of NCSO's records. they can get it from the records which i forgot the exact name of the office which is located in Palacio del Gobernador in Intramuors Manila.
                      if not, they can try the U.S. birth and death records during American occupation in the Phlippines(only special or diplomatic request i think).. that to my wonder, can even trace your genealogy
                      Someone under 5 feet can be a great coach, don’t get me wrong, but to be a big man coach and have never played in the post or even played high level ball? C’mon now.


                      - Jamal Sampson

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Sakamoto
                        The birth certificate of his grandmother which is one of the important pertinent document is missing. We have so many cases of missing birth certificate in our country specially during the 1940's - 50's.
                        So what are the chances of Gabe here?

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                        • #57
                          Guys, sa Recto lang katapat nyan...hehehe..one (1) hour lang tapos na yan...

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                          • #58
                            Here's the latest on Norwood...taken from Journal...

                            Norwood’s RP stint still doubtful

                            FIL-AM guard Gabe Norwood’s continued stay in the RP men’s team and possibly, a stint in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA), remains in doubt as he has yet to fully complete his papers proving his Filipino lineage.

                            The 6-foot-5 playma-ker, a key player in George Mason University’s Final Four bid in the US NCAA two years ago, is currently in town after arriving with the SMC-RP squad from Belgrade, Servia where the Nationals concluded their week-long training.

                            Norwood admitted that his lawyers are currently working on his papers that would allow him to secure a Philippine passport.

                            But questions still arise on whether his parents are still Filipino at the time he was born. In a talk with mediamen, Norwood said it was actually his great grandfather who hails from Pangasinan.

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                            • #59
                              here's some old news that shows Norwood's filipino ancestry is on both the maternal and paternal side

                              CARSON CITY, California. – Team San Miguel-Pilipinas posted its third win in four games Saturday, beating a selection of ABA-USBL players and aspiring pros 98-74 before a weekend crowd of close to 300 Filipinos at the Home Depot Center here.

                              The game saw Gabe Norwood of George Mason University, whose late grandfather hails from Pangasinan and grandmother Frances Villoria comes from Camiling, Tarlac, suiting up for the Nationals.

                              The 6-foot-5 Norwood played point guard for GMU which advanced to last year’s NCAA Final Four but failed to make it this year. Norwood flew in from Virginia and joined the Nationals in their 3-on-3 practice last Friday. He also practiced with the team Saturday morning and played later that night.

                              Inspired by the presence of his relatives, Mark Caguioa opened up scoring with a 3-point shot, before Asi Taulava and Ranidel de Ocampo took turns attacking the hoop as the Nationals took a 12-0 lead, forcing the opposing coach to call an early time-out.

                              The Americans came back strong behind CCA all-conference member Johntae Vincent and ABA veteran Phil Givens to close out first quarter scoring trailing by six 30-24.

                              Shortly before the quarter ended, Norwood was fielded in by coach Chot Reyes. Alternating between the point and off-guard spots, Norwood immediately made his presence felt via a thunderous slam off a back pass from Jimmy Alapag that drove the pro-Pinoy crowd crazy. Gabe went on to score on a variety of jumpers while running the offense and passing off for six assists, prompting his teammates to give their ‘thumbs-up’ on his potential as a probable national team member.

                              The Americans opened the third quarter with a 12-2 run to threaten at 60-54. After a time-out, the Nationals threw a half-court trapping defense that led to successive baskets and gave the RP team a 79-61 lead going into the third quarter. This seemed to take the fight out of the Americans as they never got any closer the rest of the way.

                              "This team had some great size and talent but was more of an all-star selection and not really a team. Still, I thought we did well in terms of ball movement and over-all effort," said Reyes.

                              "More importantly, we finally had a chance to see how Gabe fits in with us, and from seeing this game, his work ethic in the weight room and court drills, and his instant rapport with his teammates, I would say that he is a great fit," Reyes added. "He flies back to attend school Sunday night, so it will be interesting to see how we play against legitimate Division-I teams on Tuesday (Cal State Fullerton) and Wednesday (Long Beach State).

                              The scores:


                              RP-San Miguel 98– Seigle 21, Caguioa 18, Pennisi 13, de Ocampo 11, Helterbrand 10, Taulava 8, Norwood 8, Raymundo 4, Alapag 4, dela Cruz 2, Ritualo 2. (Hontiveros DNP due to injury)


                              US Selection 74– Vincent 21, Givens 15, Bewer 10, Yamatz 8, Bryant 8, Meiller 4, Rivers 4, Lawrence 4, Hamilton 0.
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                              Anyone who wants to replace a coach because his dwarf team keeps losing against bigger teams is wishing for a miracle and should get a magician. A more practical solution is to get reinforcements unless one is content to wait a few more years in the hope that the dwarf players will grow wings and fly over their defenders. PBA reinforcements will not guarantee a championship, but it will guarantee close losses which is enough to make me happy.

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                              • #60
                                Ex-US NCAA star Norwood hits town looking for relatives
                                By Musong R. Castillo
                                Inquirer 06/24/2007

                                MANILA, Philippines—Gabe Norwood planed in together with the rest of the Philippine team a couple of days back, and unlike many Fil-American players who came to trace their roots here, he hasn’t seen a relative just yet.

                                “No, I don’t know anyone here,” Norwood, a 22-year-old former star of George Mason University in the US NCAA, told scribes Friday night at the Araneta Coliseum. “No one has actually come to me and told me that he’s my relative.”

                                Norwood is being eyed by coach Chot Reyes for the RP team, which will campaign in the Fiba Asia in Japan next month for a slot in next year’s Beijing Olympics.

                                Only one critical piece of paper is missing in Norwood’s claim to Filipino lineage, the birth certificate of his grandmother.

                                Though Norwood does not even know the name of his grandmother, her birth certificate, if it can be determined that she was still a Filipino at the time of Norwood’s mother’s birth, he can get a Philippine passport.

                                “All I know is that my great grandpa is from Pangasinan,” Norwood, a reedy, 6-5 point guard, whose father Brian was a quarterback for the University of Hawaii, said.

                                A lawyer whom the Inquirer consulted yesterday said that it is possible for Norwood to secure a Philippine passport “if that piece of paper is found and proven to be authentic.

                                “But it would be a case of forcing through, most especially since the Fiba Asia is just more than a month away.”

                                The lawyer, who did not want to be identified, said that if the father or mother of Norwood’s mother happens to be Filipinos at the time of the cager’s mother’s birth, “then he can pass as a Filipino.”

                                An article posted in March 2006 on the starbulletin.com website said that the family of Norwood’s mother Tiffiney, migrated to Maui from the Philippines.

                                “They have lived in Maui for five generations, her (Tiffiney’s) great grandmother migrating to Maui from the Philippines,” the article said.

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