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  • #61
    Stephen Holt is legit. He's the type that adjusts his game depending on the quality of his peers. So if you give him say the OQT roster he'd elevate his game and flourish even more.
    But because of his age and if we need an emergency NP outside Brownlee, Pringle, Ange and CS, I'd pick Barefield esp if Kai, AJ & JF are all available. Our wings can be handled by committee (Dwight, KQ, Malonzo, Tamayo). Hopefully the Korean league would push Tamayo to work on his physique (ala-Kelly Williams lol)

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    • #62
      All PBA "U30 team" for SEA Games

      Guards:
      RJ Abarrientos
      Sedrick Barefield
      Alec Stockton
      Schonny Winston

      FORWARDS:
      William Navarro
      Zavier Lucero
      Arvin Tolentino
      Kenneth Tuffin
      Christian David

      CENTERS:
      Brandon Bates
      Justin Arana
      Justin Baltazar
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      • #63
        Originally posted by r1ck View Post
        All PBA "U30 team" for SEA Games

        Guards:
        RJ Abarrientos
        Sedrick Barefield
        Alec Stockton
        Schonny Winston

        FORWARDS:
        William Navarro
        Zavier Lucero
        Arvin Tolentino
        Kenneth Tuffin
        Christian David

        CENTERS:
        Brandon Bates
        Justin Arana
        Justin Baltazar
        This is only if these are the only guys available around 1-2 weeks before the SEA Games. Maybe some better-qualified amateurs can still be there.

        As for Arana, he really needs to improve defensively, and he should work on changing his position to the 4 with his 6'7" height in shoes as well as only 6'9" wingspan. Maybe if there's no choice as to the bigs, as in no one else is available.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by IPC View Post

          This is only if these are the only guys available around 1-2 weeks before the SEA Games. Maybe some better-qualified amateurs can still be there.

          As for Arana, he really needs to improve defensively, and he should work on changing his position to the 4 with his 6'7" height in shoes as well as only 6'9" wingspan. Maybe if there's no choice as to the bigs, as in no one else is available.
          I think Arana is good to go in the SEA Games level. Kasing height lang nya yung mga sentro ng most SEA teams.

          I don't know if Arana has the laterals to play as a legit 4. He also needs to develop at least a mid-range jumper to be able to play the 4.
          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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          • #65
            Find a replacement for kai, edu, kquiam, tamayo, papa dweet because they wont probably available for sea games

            See this is what team b can be helpful but coach tim is stubborn
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
              Find a replacement for kai, edu, kquiam, tamayo, papa dweet because they wont probably available for sea games

              See this is what team b can be helpful but coach tim is stubborn
              It’s not that hard if you think about it.

              The SBP will just use a combination of SMB and GSM players with 3-4 players from other teams.

              SMB:
              Fajardo
              Perez

              GSM:
              Brownlee
              Malonzo
              Japeth
              Scottie
              Abarrientos/Holt

              Northport:
              Navarro

              Meralco:
              Newsome

              TNT:
              Oftana
              BGR

              non-PBA:
              Ange

              Also, Bennie’s naturalization should be completed by then, so he could fill in Japeth, Ange, or Junemar’s spot.

              I expect Thailand to utilize OCA rules.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                It’s not that hard if you think about it.

                The SBP will just use a combination of SMB and GSM players with 3-4 players from other teams.

                SMB:
                Fajardo
                Perez

                GSM:
                Brownlee
                Malonzo
                Japeth
                Scottie
                Abarrientos/Holt

                Northport:
                Navarro

                Meralco:
                Newsome

                TNT:
                Oftana
                BGR

                non-PBA:
                Ange

                Also, Bennie’s naturalization should be completed by then, so he could fill in Japeth, Ange, or Junemar’s spot.

                I expect Thailand to utilize OCA rules.
                Yes, Thailand will use OCA rules, but in 2027, Malaysia will use FIBA rules... So we need to plan in 2027 seagames who will be in the line up minus ineligibles... And why on the hell you didn't pick Felix Lemetti of ROS and Barefield of Blackwater plus UP's QMB and DLSU's Mike Phillips, they should be there... Newsome, Scottie and Perez should not play there, they need a rest plus they are too much in seagames...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                  Yes, Thailand will use OCA rules, but in 2027, Malaysia will use FIBA rules... So we need to plan in 2027 seagames who will be in the line up minus ineligibles... And why on the hell you didn't pick Felix Lemetti of ROS and Barefield of Blackwater plus UP's QMB and DLSU's Mike Phillips, they should be there... Newsome, Scottie and Perez should not play there, they need a rest plus they are too much in seagames...
                  Because it’s CTC and he always prefer players who already know his system.

                  Also, the SBP is still traumatized by that 2022 SEA games loss to Indonesia. They aren’t taking chances.

                  Scottie not playing? Lool the guy is en route to play till 40 if he’s healthy enough for as long as CTC is the coach.

                  I didn’t include QMB and Phillips because their status is still up in the air in 2025.

                  For all we know, both could opt to play overseas instead of the PBA.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                    Because it’s CTC and he always prefer players who already know his system.

                    Also, the SBP is still traumatized by that 2022 SEA games loss to Indonesia. They aren’t taking chances.

                    Scottie not playing? Lool the guy is en route to play till 40 if he’s healthy enough for as long as CTC is the coach.

                    I didn’t include QMB and Phillips because their status is still up in the air in 2025.

                    For all we know, both could opt to play overseas instead of the PBA.
                    Seagames is audition for next set of future players for national team.. That 2022 Debacle was once in a blue moon.. Indonesia bring their best possible team while we bring worst possible team.. Also QMB and Phillips can't play overseas since they are FIBA ineligible, so they are not qualified for Asian import in B league while they are also not qualified in KBL as Asian import too..

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
                      Because it’s CTC and he always prefer players who already know his system.
                      Also, the SBP is still traumatized by that 2022 SEA games loss to Indonesia. They aren’t taking chances.

                      Scottie not playing? Lool the guy is en route to play till 40 if he’s healthy enough for as long as CTC is the coach.

                      I didn’t include QMB and Phillips because their status is still up in the air in 2025.

                      For all we know, both could opt to play overseas instead of the PBA.
                      Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                      Seagames is audition for next set of future players for national team.. That 2022 Debacle was once in a blue moon.. Indonesia bring their best possible team while we bring worst possible team.. Also QMB and Phillips can't play overseas since they are FIBA ineligible, so they are not qualified for Asian import in B league while they are also not qualified in KBL as Asian import too..
                      That 2022 final was winnable. Just that, the only rotation player in that lineup who could actually play defense was Thirdy. Bringing in Tungcab, Navarro, and Lopez could have helped.

                      Our perimeter defense was bad that game. We allowed Indonesia to shoot 26-55 from the field, 13-31 from 3, and we gave up 25 free throws. Mix of not getting enough defenders in (in fact, everyone who played in that game was a defensive liability, except for Thirdy) and zoning against a team that shot well from 3, and late rotations.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                        Seagames is audition for next set of future players for national team.. That 2022 Debacle was once in a blue moon.. Indonesia bring their best possible team while we bring worst possible team.. Also QMB and Phillips can't play overseas since they are FIBA ineligible, so they are not qualified for Asian import in B league while they are also not qualified in KBL as Asian import too..
                        Except we also had a close call in 2023 where we trailed Indonesia in the semis and Cambo-lifornia beat us in the group stage. ASEAN teams took a page out of our playbook and expect them to abuse the OCA rules in the editions to come.

                        Losing in the SEA games is bad PR for the SBP. They will not take risks especially with Chualay now at the forefront.

                        There are other leagues besides the B.League and KBL that also pays higher than the PBA. lolz

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post

                          Except we also had a close call in 2023 where we trailed Indonesia in the semis and Cambo-lifornia beat us in the group stage. ASEAN teams took a page out of our playbook and expect them to abuse the OCA rules in the editions to come.

                          Losing in the SEA games is bad PR for the SBP. They will not take risks especially with Chualay now at the forefront.

                          There are other leagues besides the B.League and KBL that also pays higher than the PBA. lolz
                          Then who? They would rather pay American imports than any Asian imports, unless it's Rui Hachimura or Clarkson... Did you saw Thirdy's 1st game with Dubai? He was benched even it was a pre season game (it is?).. QMB and Phillips are those affected by FIBA eligibility rules.. and they need PBA to continue their residency, Who knows, maybe after 5 years they will be considered as locals in FIBA someday...

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                          • #73
                            RObert yesterday isnt a pre season one, ABA leagiue is the mother league of dubai team (think of ABA as PBA of SMB to euroleagues easl)..
                            To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                            1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by reamily View Post
                              RObert yesterday isnt a pre season one, ABA leagiue is the mother league of dubai team (think of ABA as PBA of SMB to euroleagues easl)..
                              See? I think even Al Dwairi was not used there... Or maybe limited minutes.. and do we think QMB or Phillips will get any slot in foreign leagues as imports? But I do hope guys like Kai, Edu or Ramos can play there.. if we want to increase our top notch players for national team, our best players should play in higher leagues.... Even he's bench player...

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                              • #75
                                interestingly, some SEA countries are still lobbying for that "only passport rules" to take advantage, not only on basketball but also on all other discipline, we have to be fully aware that our neighbors are also maximizing the "naturalization thing" to beef up their respective lineup.

                                on the other, side other members are also lobbying for that "3 years residency" as per OCA policy and that doesn't fit well to those who had athletes who are still in the middle of the naturalization process.

                                no way FIBA and FIVB strict guidelines will be implemented for now(?) because many will be affected.

                                that is why, I had the gut feelings that the "only passport rules" will still be implemented by the THA SEA org considering that they also had a large diaspora all over.

                                as per Com. Dickie, he is proposing for an overseas training on all athletes who will be selected for next year's Thailand Sea Games which is ideal for a short term plans

                                while they are still in the process of grassroot development spearheaded by the POC on his active NSA's

                                recently, I've watched a little bit of some age-group swimming competitions and trials for the next batches of Philippine Swimming Team participated by a huge participants

                                composed of locals and overseas based hafus organized by the newly created Swimming Federation led by our LODI Eric Buhain now a member of House of Rep.

                                I've seen some kids who had the potential to be an elite Olympic medallist and possibly the GOAT of the sports if only they will be given a world-class coach, financial resources to participate in all high level of competitions as part of exposure and experience.

                                we already had a world-class olympic size facilities at the New Clark City for our young swimmers

                                if only the PSC, LGU and Private Sectors works hand in hand, we could be a super power in the swimming competitions because it is in our DNA being a water people and literally we are surrounded by it..

                                Salt water is the effective way to develop that high octane stamina, strength and speed and the Philippines are super bless for that.

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