2025 SEA Games

[CoJ]

As much as possible we need to naturalize someone who is young so sbp could squeeze 3 fiba cycles out of the np

plus it takes lot of political capital to get the naturalization process progress in congress so might as well use resources efficiently

[Metta]

And our potential golden generation...Kai, Edu, KQ, Tamayo, etc and then guys like Caelum, Bayla, Amos, Bahay etc are in their early 20s and teenagers. An NP close to their age makes sense.

[Silent Killer]

As much as possible we need to naturalize someone who is young so sbp could squeeze 3 fiba cycles out of the np

plus it takes lot of political capital to get the naturalization process progress in congress so might as well use resources efficiently

ineligible players like boogie ellis, ron harper jr.. rather spend ridiculous amount to naturalize player and a long wait to approve..

[BJ_Reloaded]

for basketball, the ideal age for naturalization is within the 26 yr. old window

36 yr. old JB is a different animal, he is rare

as for volleyball, it is much stricter to naturalize a player(s) on a Sr. level

esp to those who already played in the sanctioned tourney both for youth and Sr. level

but there's a probation of 8 yr. window wherein it is mandatory to live for that specific period of time,

then for Men, when he reaches the age of 35 yrs. old and for Women it's 32 yrs. old

that's the path of 6'5 MB Jaja Santiago-Minowa if she still want to play for Japan Sr. team

considering both NF are already agreed on the changing of allegiance

but if she returned to play for RP then no restriction would be impose because PNVF is her original NF.

[JAMSKIE]

for basketball, the ideal age for naturalization is within the 26 yr. old window

36 yr. old JB is a different animal, he is rare

Agree with U bro, hands down.
It's not really wise to have a naturalized player prospect who is already 30 yrs old. As you pointed out, not everyone is like a Justin Brownlee who even in his mid-30's can still play at a high level. Let's remember that when Marcus Douthit was in his mid-30's, he was just a hollow shell of his old self. Laos na sya.

If we get a NP prospect who is already 30 yrs old, he will only be good for 1 World Cup stint & 1 Asia Cup stint. SBP won't be getting its money worth.

On the other hand if our NP prospect is only 25 or 26 yrs old, he will be serviceable for Gilas for at least 2 World Cup stints & at least 2 Asia Cup stints (it could even be 3 stints on both World Cup ,& Asia Cup).

[Giannis34GOD]

Agree with U bro, hands down.
It's not really wise to have a naturalized player prospect who is already 30 yrs old. As you pointed out, not everyone is like a Justin Brownlee who even in his mid-30's can still play at a high level. Let's remember that when Marcus Douthit was in his mid-30's, he was just a hollow shell of his old self. Laos na sya.

If we get a NP prospect who is already 30 yrs old, he will only be good for 1 World Cup stint & 1 Asia Cup stint. SBP won't be getting its money worth.

On the other hand if our NP prospect is only 25 or 26 yrs old, he will be serviceable for Gilas for at least 2 World Cup stints & at least 2 Asia Cup stints (it could even be 3 stints on both World Cup ,& Asia Cup).

But also should include the health of a guy... With Boatwright is injured, we can't assure that he will be always available... Same also as Favour Onoh..

[BJ_Reloaded]

Agree with U bro, hands down.
It's not really wise to have a naturalized player prospect who is already 30 yrs old. As you pointed out, not everyone is like a Justin Brownlee who even in his mid-30's can still play at a high level. Let's remember that when Marcus Douthit was in his mid-30's, he was just a hollow shell of his old self. Laos na sya.

If we get a NP prospect who is already 30 yrs old, he will only be good for 1 World Cup stint & 1 Asia Cup stint. SBP won't be getting its money worth.

On the other hand if our NP prospect is only 25 or 26 yrs old, he will be serviceable for Gilas for at least 2 World Cup stints & at least 2 Asia Cup stints (it could even be 3 stints on both World Cup ,& Asia Cup).

Sir Jams,

honestly, if SBP could only afford to naturalize players below the 26 yr. old window

to fill-up our holes in the U16, U18 and U20 Batang Gilas program

that I think is an ideal battle plan for our Gilas grassroot development and overall basketball program moving forward

and realistically "money talks" is the name of the game

we've already mentioned this since the time of Adam

players such as QMB, AK34, CJ Lane, Lucero, Laput, Villegas, Barefield, BGR, may eventually get their exemption

just in time for 2031 and 2035 cycle or maybe much earlier

aside from them much younger guys like JJ kid, Hepa, RM who are allegedly obtain there respective ph docs before and after their 16th birthday

the buzz about the Harper bros. are now in the final(?) process of obtaining their respective docs as well is a big welcome development as well

many thanks to those Filipino Sports Org who had the same passion and aspiration as we had

those above players are a perfect compliment for Kai, AJ, Carl, KQ, Dwight, Mason and even Balti

now as for our next naturalize guy(s), height and length must be the main prerequisite alongside age and attitude

I keep on mentioning this before and I won't hesitate this until kingdom come

given the budgetary limitation of SBP "sabihin na natin on the same compen and ben level as JC during his 2-weeks vacation workout(?) este 2 weeks rendezvous(?)

no! no! no! I'm biting my tongue 2 weeks Gilas stint pala as the correct word

if they could discover a legit 6'8 to 6'9 23 to 26 yr. old Sonny Alvarado type of a player to compliment with the Eric Menk and Rudy Hatfield ver. 1999 to 2000

those 3 are human dynamos both offensively and defensively and we've all witness to that

that I would say a perfect lineup alongside those I mentioned above against those in the current FIBA top 10 teams

someone keeps on mentioning the NBA's journeyman and 6th Man Nazir Reid but we all know his TF and his already in his 30's

that's not cool for our long term program

overall the main bottomline here is "How our NF for Sports will play his cards to make sure we could assemble a formidable team to mix it up against those in the upper part of the food chain".

with the recent OQT performance, all of us wants another sets of "Eat Bulaga" storyline moving forward

[r1ck]

And our potential golden generation...Kai, Edu, KQ, Tamayo, etc and then guys like Caelum, Bayla, Amos, Bahay etc are in their early 20s and teenagers. An NP close to their age makes sense.

I think we could include Dwight Ramos and Rhenz Abando to the Kai, Edu, Tamayo and KQ generation. And I believe the next guys that are coming up include Bayla, Gemao and Amos

[r1ck]

All collegiate team for SEA GAMES:

GUARDS:
Andy Gemao
JD Cagulangan
Clint Escamis
Jake Figueroa

FORWARDS:
Kevin Quiambao
Francis Lopez
Mason Amos
Jacob Bayla
VJ Pre

CENTERS:
Mike Phillips
Allen Liwag
QMB

[Metta]

All collegiate team for SEA GAMES:

GUARDS:
Andy Gemao
JD Cagulangan
Clint Escamis
Jake Figueroa

FORWARDS:
Kevin Quiambao
Francis Lopez
Mason Amos
Jacob Bayla
VJ Pre

CENTERS:
Mike Phillips
Allen Liwag
QMB

Gemao still in HS. Too bad, I think Kiefer A would've been considered if he wasn't injured.

I don't mind this young all-amateur team as long as they see all of this guys are candidates for the seniors team. A plus if they implement the triangle for continuity.

[egmsantos]

any news where is Abando playing next basketball season?

[BJ_Reloaded]

All collegiate team for SEA GAMES:

GUARDS:
Andy Gemao
JD Cagulangan
Clint Escamis
Jake Figueroa

FORWARDS:
Kevin Quiambao
Francis Lopez
Mason Amos
Jacob Bayla
VJ Pre

CENTERS:
Mike Phillips
Allen Liwag
QMB

Sir r1ck,
cc: Sir Mets,

there's no doubt the talent level of those lads, no argument there

but I think there's a lot more available young talents that I think had the tools as well

we have to be aware that the host nation THA will parade such players like Lamb, Morgan, Lish, Jakwatan and that 6'9 Thai-German dude who currently plays at one of the top-tier team in Europe

those Thais are high level and our Gilas team A had a hard time containing them.

INA will also parade there A team as well and they want another upset storyline as well

VIET is also a team of concern, those Viet-Ams are no push-over esp. if the Utah Jazz allows Juzang to play

Cambodia is also a concern esp. if they decided to parade again those naturalize American tourist and that dreaded Camboadian-American

as I said I ain't discounting the skillsets of our collegiate kids but we have to be realistic if they could keep up with those hafus from our Asean bros.

I think KQuiam should concentrate playing in a FIBA level tourney

guys like Francis Lopez, Mason Amos, Mike Philips, QMB is a must on this

if they could tap Barefield, Lucero, Laput, Balunggay, Tuffin, Llemetti from their respective ballclub that would be beneficial for future merits on some of them

we had a much deeper pool if the intention is for the SEA Games and Asian Games

so I think it will be a big challenge as far as assembling the final 12 for this multi-sports event

[BJ_Reloaded]

Sir r1ck,
cc: Sir Mets,

there's no doubt the talent level of those lads, no argument there

but I think there's a lot more available young talents that I think had the tools as well

we have to be aware that the host nation THA will parade such players like Lamb, Morgan, Lish, Jakwatan and that 6'9 Thai-German dude who currently plays at one of the top-tier team in Europe

those Thais are high level and our Gilas team A had a hard time containing them.

INA will also parade there A team as well and they want another upset storyline as well

VIET is also a team of concern, those Viet-Ams are no push-over esp. if the Utah Jazz allows Juzang to play

Cambodia is also a concern esp. if they decided to parade again those naturalize American tourist and that dreaded Camboadian-American

as I said I ain't discounting the skillsets of our collegiate kids but we have to be realistic if they could keep up with those hafus from our Asean bros.

I think KQuiam should concentrate playing in a FIBA level tourney

guys like Francis Lopez, Mason Amos, Mike Philips, QMB is a must on this

if they could tap Barefield, Lucero, Laput, Balunggay, Tuffin, Llemetti from their respective ballclub that would be beneficial for future merits on some of them

we had a much deeper pool if the intention is for the SEA Games and Asian Games

so I think it will be a big challenge as far as assembling the final 12 for this multi-sports event

[IPC]

All collegiate team for SEA GAMES:

GUARDS:
Andy Gemao
JD Cagulangan
Clint Escamis
Jake Figueroa

FORWARDS:
Kevin Quiambao
Francis Lopez
Mason Amos
Jacob Bayla
VJ Pre

CENTERS:
Mike Phillips
Allen Liwag
QMB

Sir r1ck,
cc: Sir Mets,

there's no doubt the talent level of those lads, no argument there

but I think there's a lot more available young talents that I think had the tools as well

we have to be aware that the host nation THA will parade such players like Lamb, Morgan, Lish, Jakwatan and that 6'9 Thai-German dude who currently plays at one of the top-tier team in Europe

those Thais are high level and our Gilas team A had a hard time containing them.

INA will also parade there A team as well and they want another upset storyline as well

VIET is also a team of concern, those Viet-Ams are no push-over esp. if the Utah Jazz allows Juzang to play

Cambodia is also a concern esp. if they decided to parade again those naturalize American tourist and that dreaded Camboadian-American

as I said I ain't discounting the skillsets of our collegiate kids but we have to be realistic if they could keep up with those hafus from our Asean bros.

I think KQuiam should concentrate playing in a FIBA level tourney

guys like Francis Lopez, Mason Amos, Mike Philips, QMB is a must on this

if they could tap Barefield, Lucero, Laput, Balunggay, Tuffin, Llemetti from their respective ballclub that would be beneficial for future merits on some of them

we had a much deeper pool if the intention is for the SEA Games and Asian Games

so I think it will be a big challenge as far as assembling the final 12 for this multi-sports event

Thing is, we're kinda limited to sending who's available by 9-20 December 2025. Japan and KBL teams are not lending for SEA Games. UAAP and NCAA have finals during this period. So that leaves the PBA.

If we're talking Gilas, the PBA talent pool is limited outside of the 8 PBA players currently in the pool. As of now, the only eligibles worth considering outside of the Gilas 14 are Marcio, RJ, Bolick, Castro, Carino, Arvin, Navarro, Mamuyac, Maverick Ahanmisi, Schonny, and Tuffin. As for bigs, maybe get Erram, Almazan, and Troy if eligible. Otherwise, we're better off sending guys like Ballungay and Lucero for the 4 spot.

[BJ_Reloaded]

Thing is, we're kinda limited to sending who's available by 9-20 December 2025. Japan and KBL teams are not lending for SEA Games. UAAP and NCAA have finals during this period. So that leaves the PBA.

If we're talking Gilas, the PBA talent pool is limited outside of the 8 PBA players currently in the pool. As of now, the only eligibles worth considering outside of the Gilas 14 are Marcio, RJ, Bolick, Castro, Carino, Arvin, Navarro, Mamuyac, Maverick Ahanmisi, Schonny, and Tuffin. As for bigs, maybe get Erram, Almazan, and Troy if eligible. Otherwise, we're better off sending guys like Ballungay and Lucero for the 4 spot.

Sir IPC,

I assumed the host country will still implement "only passport rule" on all sports discipline for the coming 2025 edition

on the players you've mentioned, sorry but I'm not sold on some ageing players like

Castro, Erram, Almazan and Troy rather I would replaced them as I said with QMB(a PBA Rookie at that time), AK34, Datu, BGR(if he is 100 percent fully healed) and Laput

as for Ballunggay, Lucero, RJ, Bolick, Carino, Arvin, Navarro, Mamuyac, Mavs, Schonny and KT no argument there.

but we can't deny Barefield and Michael Philips(maybe a PBA rookie as well at that time) to be included in the storyline

how about Remy Martin and Ron Harper, Jr., who knows if the stars are properly align next year

I ain't totally sold on DJ Fenner and Stephen Holt, both 30 yrs. old

our mindset should be for WC 2031 and 2035 cycle