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  • and most of these fuckers were the same people asking for reducing the budget for basketball, when they don't even give a single fck about sports but only interested on chismis about the personal lives of athletes, same people who are thirsting for pole vault players

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    • That's fair ranking... Although I can't believe China and Iran still better rank than us... But we can't blame them, Chot ruined our rankings 2 years ago from 30 to 41 place... Atleast we climb up once again to 34... If we can finish at podium next year at FIBA Asia cup, we will see ourselves inside top 30 rankings or more...

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      • I've been reading and watching news feeds esp during that Heroes Welcome at Malacanang.

        but it seems that the must anticipated Department of Sports are not mentioned even a single word by our mainstream media

        those pledges and promises about reviewing the existing laws on the Rewards and Benefits on the purpose of giving more to the athletes and coaches

        that's good, it's inspiring

        but establishing a Department will truly establish all the aspirations and programs we were hoping for Philippine sports moving forward.

        we do hope some people in the mainstream media had the balls to open up that question to BBM and his Secretaries.

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        • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

          That's fair ranking... Although I can't believe China and Iran still better rank than us... But we can't blame them, Chot ruined our rankings 2 years ago from 30 to 41 place... Atleast we climb up once again to 34... If we can finish at podium next year at FIBA Asia cup, we will see ourselves inside top 30 rankings or more...
          Yep Iran and China had a better 2019-2022 than us (2019 World Cup, Fiba Asia and the windows)
          Last edited by CoJ; 08-16-2024, 06:11 AM.

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          • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

            Yep Iran and China had a better 2019-2022 thannus (2019 World Cup, Fiba Asia and the windows)
            Maybe except in 2020 and 2021 under Tab Baldwin, we have good performance in just 2 year span under Baldwin... But SBP, PBA and Chot ruined the momentum... We just almost beat Serbia that time and beat Korea twice (Korea is much higher rank than Gilas that time)... I think one more mistake of China and Iran they will be eclipse by Gilas and even Jordan.. I understand Iran because their 2021 Olympic stint is still recorded under 8 year FIBA cycle for rankings...but honestly, they are lower than their current rankings today... They are even better than Croatia, Nigeria in rankings that I'm sure if they match up they will be blow out by them...

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            • If China fumbles their promising lineup with Yang Hansen as the main man, they will surely lose their spot in Asia. However, to be fair, their youth team still seems to be the best non-Oceania team in FIBA Asia Youth. They are consistent with their youth program, but they keep fumbling when it comes to their senior team.

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              • While our youth team is handled by the worst coach ever in the history of the youth team (almost at par with Franz Pumaren who abandoned minors abroad so he could coach Danding Cojuangco's team).
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                • Jaja Santiago now officially a Japanese citizen and is a step closer in fulfilling her dream of playing in the Olympics. She will now be known as Sachi Minowa.

                  Chery Tiggo head coach Kungfu Reyes could not be happier for Jaja Santiago after she finally completed her naturalization process to become a Japanese citizen, marking a significant milestone in her quest to compete in the Olympics. The 28-year-old Santiago, who will carry the Japanese name Sachi Minowa, made the announcement earlier on Saturday which […]

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                  • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
                    While our youth team is handled by the worst coach ever in the history of the youth team (almost at par with Franz Pumaren who abandoned minors abroad so he could coach Danding Cojuangco's team).
                    Did he though? Didn't he make it clear then that Jack Santiago (DLSU assistant) had to take a leave and wanted to be there with him?

                    That RP Youth Team had Matthew Wright, Norbert Torres, Gab Banal, and Sam Marata... they were already out of medal contention when Pumaren left (they did beat Iran in Iran who had a young Mohammad Jamshidi).

                    Danding's 2008 DLSU team (which Dindo Pumaren took over when Franz was in Iran) had Casio, Maierhoffer and a bunch of young players that weren't really pro-material except maybe LA Revilla and Bader Abdulla Jassim (known as Malabes when he came here).

                    That was a lifetime ago. No need to dig up skeletons. In 15 years, no one will be talking about how Josh Reyes' only play was to give the ball to Kiefer Alas. But then there's this shit.
                    Criticized for leaving his coaching duties with the RP Youth team in the Fiba-Asia Junior men’s championship in Tehran, Iran last week, Franz Pumaren finally broke his silence.

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                    • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                      Did he though? Didn't he make it clear then that Jack Santiago (DLSU assistant) had to take a leave and wanted to be there with him?

                      That RP Youth Team had Matthew Wright, Norbert Torres, Gab Banal, and Sam Marata... they were already out of medal contention when Pumaren left (they did beat Iran in Iran who had a young Mohammad Jamshidi).

                      Danding's 2008 DLSU team (which Dindo Pumaren took over when Franz was in Iran) had Casio, Maierhoffer and a bunch of young players that weren't really pro-material except maybe LA Revilla and Bader Abdulla Jassim (known as Malabes when he came here).

                      That was a lifetime ago. No need to dig up skeletons. In 15 years, no one will be talking about how Josh Reyes' only play was to give the ball to Kiefer Alas. But then there's this shit.
                      That's the team that had also had Mendoza, Pascual, Sangalang and RR Garcia. Pretty stacked IMO. He and Altamirano biggest sin though is raiding and poaching our u-18 players, making it harder for schools to lend them..

                      Also wasn't Wright treated poorly back then?

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                      • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post

                        That's the team that had also had Mendoza, Pascual, Sangalang and RR Garcia. Pretty stacked IMO. He and Altamirano biggest sin though is raiding and poaching our u-18 players, making it harder for schools to lend them..

                        Also wasn't Wright treated poorly back then?
                        For context, this was the pre-K12 era. Unless a player came from the US or Canada (like both Torres and Wright), the best 17-year-olds were mostly college freshmen unless they turned 18 before the tournament. Let's say a player went to school without a 7th grade (San Beda?), in those days, he'd already have a full UAAP/NCAA season before turning 18. Wright was reportedly offered by La Salle and was treated very well during his U18 stint when Franz was the U18 coach. For blue chip local recruits, it was always due to "personal reasons" when it actually meant they don't want to be burned out during their freshman year. Much easier to get better players now with K12 since they're still in high school and already made up their mind for college unless they do a Jared Bahay.

                        College fans back then were bitches when it came to poaching, now that every school does it to the point of players transferring... it's just a matter of how a player feels and padrino budget. That narrative when a player picks certain schools because of education and the flase pretense of of being a student athlete is too 90's. At the end of the day, they all just wanna hoop.

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                        • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                          For context, this was the pre-K12 era. Unless a player came from the US or Canada (like both Torres and Wright), the best 17-year-olds were mostly college freshmen unless they turned 18 before the tournament. Let's say a player went to school without a 7th grade (San Beda?), in those days, he'd already have a full UAAP/NCAA season before turning 18. Wright was reportedly offered by La Salle and was treated very well during his U18 stint when Franz was the U18 coach. For blue chip local recruits, it was always due to "personal reasons" when it actually meant they don't want to be burned out during their freshman year. Much easier to get better players now with K12 since they're still in high school and already made up their mind for college unless they do a Jared Bahay.

                          College fans back then were bitches when it came to poaching, now that every school does it to the point of players transferring... it's just a matter of how a player feels and padrino budget. That narrative when a player picks certain schools because of education and the flase pretense of of being a student athlete is too 90's. At the end of the day, they all just wanna hoop.
                          Dunno if I remember it right but the story I remember was that they just left him somewhere with no support or way to get back to Canada when he declined their offer. Or is that a different recruit?

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                          • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                            For context, this was the pre-K12 era. Unless a player came from the US or Canada (like both Torres and Wright), the best 17-year-olds were mostly college freshmen unless they turned 18 before the tournament. Let's say a player went to school without a 7th grade (San Beda?), in those days, he'd already have a full UAAP/NCAA season before turning 18. Wright was reportedly offered by La Salle and was treated very well during his U18 stint when Franz was the U18 coach. For blue chip local recruits, it was always due to "personal reasons" when it actually meant they don't want to be burned out during their freshman year. Much easier to get better players now with K12 since they're still in high school and already made up their mind for college unless they do a Jared Bahay.

                            College fans back then were bitches when it came to poaching, now that every school does it to the point of players transferring... it's just a matter of how a player feels and padrino budget. That narrative when a player picks certain schools because of education and the flase pretense of of being a student athlete is too 90's. At the end of the day, they all just wanna hoop.
                            Sir Pao,
                            cc: Sir weirdguy,

                            reminds me of bj manalo

                            back on those days when he transferred from blue to green

                            almost a telenovela thing for UAAP at that time. ​​​​​​​

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                            • honestly, I was teary eyed when I read this news

                              finally justice has been serve not only for all of us sports loving Filipinos

                              but also to our beloved sports heroes before and to the future

                              who never get tired of dreaming that someday we will be on top of the Sporting World

                              because the Filipino had the DNA to play at the highest level and elite

                              I personally do hope that Pagcor, PCSO and whoever in that 90's Presidency and his cabinet officials

                              who signed that shameful memo, @#$%^ I'm biting my tongue while typing

                              I do hope those government offices may not do some Court of Appeal thing

                              because Philippine Sports deserves more

                              Mabuhay Coach Yeng even though I'm not a fan of yours

                              but you deserve the highest respect because really that's a lonely battle along the way.




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