The NBA Season 2024-2025

[TheRodster21]

Players have shooting slumps, that's why season averages are more useful. (His career postseason stats is actually higher: 45/35/87). Having said that, he did have a bad slump in the playoffs, who knows, players never talk about injuries especially that deep in the playoffs.

But, I'm genuinely curious as to why bad shooting in the pba is not taken advantage of and is not a career-killer.

I don’t watch much pba but it seems easier to survive as a non shooter, players are shorter not as athletic for defense and rim protection from bigs isn’t super strong compared to a league like the nba with length and athletic bigs. Lots of local teams play 2-3 zone, players go under on screens often. Its definitely not a career killer

[Silent Killer]

I don’t watch much pba but it seems easier to survive as a non shooter, players are shorter not as athletic for defense and rim protection from bigs isn’t super strong compared to a league like the nba with length and athletic bigs. Lots of local teams play 2-3 zone, players go under on screens often. Its definitely not a career killer

And all pinoy teams are poor at breaking the 2-3 zone..

[Dotch]

1st pick (or at least top 8), HERE WE COME!

Who are the prospects next year tho? This year's batch is mehhhh at best. Tanking for Cooper Flag? Dylan Harper?

[IPC]

Who are the prospects next year tho? This year's batch is mehhhh at best. Tanking for Cooper Flag? Dylan Harper?

Those two, Airious Bailey, VJ Edgecombe, Hugo Gonzalez, Rocco Zikarsky, Khaman Maluach.

[Metta]

Remember Giddey plays a lot of minutes with SGA, Jalen and Chet. So the shots he gets are mostly wide open ones. Wide open 3s for 33% for a guard/forward is low.

I guess I wasn't clear about my post. It was not a claim on Giddey's shooting prowess...

I was genuinely curious on people's thoughts as to why shooting is not as important in the pba and why bad shooters are not taken advantage of locally.

My bad though, this is an nba forum.

[Metta]

I don’t watch much pba but it seems easier to survive as a non shooter, players are shorter not as athletic for defense and rim protection from bigs isn’t super strong compared to a league like the nba with length and athletic bigs. Lots of local teams play 2-3 zone, players go under on screens often. Its definitely not a career killer

You have a point. I also don't watch a lot of pba that's why I don't fully grasp the reason.

Shooting really is something that has a ways to go locally. A whole new world of strategies gets unlocked with shooters, which is why it is essential in the nba/europe. Shooters should salivate when they see a 2-3 zone.

On the Caruso trade, OKC definitely got stronger and added someone with championship experience that will go a long way with their very young core.

[Silent Killer]

i dunno if this was discuss before but why some tallish playmakers are bad shooters? giddey, lebron, hill, ben simmons

[Metta]

i dunno if this was discuss before but why some tallish playmakers are bad shooters? giddey, lebron, hill, ben simmons

Well there's also Luka, SGA and Halli. And I wouldn't say Giddey and Lebron are bad shooters...more of average and not excellent. Like I said, Giddey's career %'s are better than an Alapag who's considered an excellent shooter locally.

If there is a reason why tall playmakers do not usually develop into excellent shooters, it's because when you're tall with handles you don't need to rely on outside shooting. Luka I think developed his shooting because he started as a kid in the pros and did not have the necessary strength (it's why playing up is good). SGA and Halli are also very slender and looks like they had late growth spurts. Lebron and Simmons were athletic man-childs.

[Rds]

You have a point. I also don't watch a lot of pba that's why I don't fully grasp the reason.

Shooting really is something that has a ways to go locally. A whole new world of strategies gets unlocked with shooters, which is why it is essential in the nba/europe. Shooters should salivate when they see a 2-3 zone.

On the Caruso trade, OKC definitely got stronger and added someone with championship experience that will go a long way with their very young core.

Shooting definitely affects the PBA. It is the reason why Terrafirma can hang with SMB. Because they can draw out JMF from the paint with Go.

It is also the main reason why Meralco defeated SMB. SMBs favorite is a 4 out. But ever since Arwind left they dont have a two way stretch 4 who can shoot from outside and defend. Trollano as 4 is their most potent lineup. But he was abused on the boards by Hodge. So they were forced to go to Mo. Who is not as accurate and is not agile as a 4. So any 5 SMB trots out Meralco will have a weakness to take advantage. Either the size mismatch at the 4 or allowing Hodge to help in the paint off of Mo.

Add to that Ross , their best perimeter defender but an inaccurate outside shooter. Literally its defense team vs offense team for SMB. It was passable before because they had Arwind at 4 and Cabagnot at 2. And Ross and Marcio were much better defenders then. Compared to Mo and Perez who are not as accurate and willing to shoot the 3. Or they trot out Trollano at 4 and Romeo at 1 who are mincemeat on defense.

It helps Meralco aslo they have the best JF defender in Bates who is also a better rin protector and rebounder than Almazan. Defense wise Bates is probably better than Japeth already as Japs is a subpar post defender for his height while Bates is probably top 2 in post defense with Junemar. Top 3 rim protection eith Japs and Junemar. While being a better PNR defender than Junemar.

[Metta]

Shooting definitely affects the PBA. It is the reason why Terrafirma can hang with SMB. Because they can draw out JMF from the paint with Go.

It is also the main reason why Meralco defeated SMB. SMBs favorite is a 4 out. But ever since Arwind left they dont have a two way stretch 4 who can shoot from outside and defend. Trollano as 4 is their most potent lineup. But he was abused on the boards by Hodge. So they were forced to go to Mo. Who is not as accurate and is not agile as a 4. So any 5 SMB trots out Meralco will have a weakness to take advantage. Either the size mismatch at the 4 or allowing Hodge to help in the paint off of Mo.

Add to that Ross , their best perimeter defender but an inaccurate outside shooter. Literally its defense team vs offense team for SMB. It was passable before because they had Arwind at 4 and Cabagnot at 2. And Ross and Marcio were much better defenders then. Compared to Mo and Perez who are not as accurate and willing to shoot the 3. Or they trot out Trollano at 4 and Romeo at 1 who are mincemeat on defense.

It helps Meralco aslo they have the best JF defender in Bates who is also a better rin protector and rebounder than Almazan. Defense wise Bates is probably better than Japeth already as Japs is a subpar post defender for his height while Bates is probably top 2 in post defense with Junemar. Top 3 rim protection eith Japs and Junemar. While being a better PNR defender than Junemar.

Good take. It will be interesting how much further the league will develop with the influx of players like Villegas, Hepa,etc. bigs who can shoot.

Meralco's success shows how effective shooting can be used to equalize against superior teams. Coach Nenad probably employed a lot of euro tactics.

[Rds]

Good take. It will be interesting how much further the league will develop with the influx of players like Villegas, Hepa,etc. bigs who can shoot.

Meralco's success shows how effective shooting can be used to equalize against superior teams. Coach Nenad probably employed a lot of euro tactics.

Nenad had to be more creative. It helps they have decent defenders from 1 to 5. But their winning stroke, Maliksi at the 3, only worked when they were able to protect him from Lassiter on defense. It was SMB’s death knell when they couldnt abuse Maliksi’s defense. Because Meralco could keep it close in the end game where they could go to Newsome who had no stopper in SMB.

Hodge is not an outside shooter nor is Bates. But they would routinely lead against SMB by abusing JF on the fastbreak. On defense Hodge would play free safety whenever Trollano was out or would go hard on the boards or post up when Trollano was there. So no, it was not simple shooting that won it for Meralco.

Actually the key was abusing SMB’s overreliance on JF. Similar to how they took advantage to GSMs over reilance on CS but different.

As mentione, they abused JMFs fastbreak defense by running every chance they could. JMF is an unwilling fastbreak defender because he knows SMB needs him to play 40 minutes and must save energy. Also the aforementioned Trollano became slower on defense because of the bulk he gained to play 4. So even if it was hard to score on set plays Meralco could get free points on the fastbreak to counter JFs dominance inside.

On offense they also abused JFs presence. Yes JF would score but not anybody else. SMB never tried a faster pace to get guys like CJ Perez, Cruz or Romeo going. They did it to rest JF. But also when JF was sitting. As a result nobody scored but JF.

In the end game JF was dead tired lessening his defense and offense. It was not surprising that the game SMB dominated was when JMF was able to rest.

So there, the inability to score without JF and the inability to stop Newsome in the end game. Coach Leo will make this worse. He is more reliant on one set of players and is less creative than Gallent. Gallents style was effective against everybody except Meralco. They might not even reach an AFC finals with Leo with the same players.

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

Shams Charania

Sources: The Cleveland Cavaliers are hiring Warriors assistant Kenny Atkinson as the franchise's new head coach.

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

Bleacher Report

Scottie Barnes is signing a five-year, $270M rookie extension with Toronto, per @wojespn

Barnes is now the HIGHEST PAID player in Raptors' history

[Silent Killer]

From Twitter

NBACentral

The Lakers are shopping the No. 17 pick, and Jerami Grant is a potential trade target, per @JakeLFischer

“Los Angeles has also made that No. 17 selection available via trade, sources said, as the Lakers have evaluated the market for a significant contributor alongside James and Davis…Jerami Grant, a client of Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul, is believed to be another potential addition on the Lakers’ wishlist, according to league sources.”

[CoJ]

Damn 5 1st rd picks, this will haunt the knicks , and i thought their management got its act together
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