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  • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
    RJ should really improve his defense, 38 year Castro is cooking him.
    Not just Castro, even Nambatac is targeting him. TNT saw a crack on ginebra's defence.

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    • It sucks as fuck when a team coached by CCR, who still uses the DDO is dominating a system-oriented team coach by the current NT coach. As much as I want Ginebra to have their revenge, this better be done in 4-5 games for Gilas.

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      • Ginebra's size was their own undoing here, they heavily rely on their guards to click on their offense. Their only playable bigs are Japeth and Brownlee.

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        • This is a rematch between Brownlee and RHJ

          But I think teams are some difference in terms of roster right?

          TNT basically replaced Mikey Williams by Nambatac

          Ginebra basically replaced Pringle and Cstand by Holt and RJ.

          Well deserved win by TNT.

          Ginebra needs to bounce back.

          Ralph Cu is the only bright spot for them.

          Holt have some bad stretches and also good stretches.

          And Yeah TNT is a very strong team with RHJ.

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          • Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post
            It sucks as fuck when a team coached by CCR, who still uses the DDO is dominating a system-oriented team coach by the current NT coach. As much as I want Ginebra to have their revenge, this better be done in 4-5 games for Gilas.
            Actually nga, TNT did it through defense. Denied Brownlee passing lanes and clean looks. That's the real surprise from Chot, the defensive-oriented identity of TNT. In the past, defense isn't the first thing to come to mind when discussing Chot Reyes in recent years.

            Couple that with Chot using actual small ball, using RHJ at the 4, which hasn't changed.

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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post

              Actually nga, TNT did it through defense. Denied Brownlee passing lanes and clean looks. That's the real surprise from Chot, the defensive-oriented identity of TNT. In the past, defense isn't the first thing to come to mind when discussing Chot Reyes in recent years.

              Couple that with Chot using actual small ball, using RHJ at the 4, which hasn't changed.
              IPC, as my co Ginebra Fan

              Honestly, do you think RHJ is a better player than Brownlee???

              I think he really is

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              • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                IPC, as my co Ginebra Fan

                Honestly, do you think RHJ is a better player than Brownlee???

                I think he really is

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                I don't want to answer that question. What I will say is, RHJ isn't that great of a shooter, but he's a great defender and hustler. JB's more well-rounded, and has more range, but is not as athletic as RHJ.

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                  I don't want to answer that question. What I will say is, RHJ isn't that great of a shooter, but he's a great defender and hustler. JB's more well-rounded, and has more range, but is not as athletic as RHJ.
                  Brownlee usually always get the better of his opposition

                  Only Two Imports I remembered got the better of him

                  TNT's Terrence Jones and SMB's Boatwright

                  And now RHJ

                  Idk. Maybe there is some common denominator between the 3.

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                  • RHJ is better than JB, at this stage of JB's career.

                    But,

                    The pre-pandemic Justin Brownlee (2016-2019) clears RHJ any given day. The kind of Justin Brownlee we are seeing today is just like Pacquiao dominating in welterweight when he can stay as an untouchable in featherweight-lightweight and retire as the GOAT. Weird analogy but yeah lol. This is not JB's prime anymore, but the magic will always be there, of course.

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                    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                      Brownlee usually always get the better of his opposition

                      Only Two Imports I remembered got the better of him

                      TNT's Terrence Jones and SMB's Boatwright

                      And now RHJ

                      Idk. Maybe there is some common denominator between the 3.
                      JB wasn't there when Bennie played here. JB had a drug issue, if I remember.

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                        I don't want to answer that question. What I will say is, RHJ isn't that great of a shooter, but he's a great defender and hustler. JB's more well-rounded, and has more range, but is not as athletic as RHJ.
                        The reason why Brownlee is not in the NBA.. he's too slow in his position.. in NBA, the wingers there are too quick and versatile, that we now saw in RHJ.. if RHJ and JB combine bodies, that guy will be bonafide star in the NBA today... JB's killer mentality and shooting and RHJ's all around game combine is like prime Kobe Bryant already

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                        • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post

                          Brownlee usually always get the better of his opposition

                          Only Two Imports I remembered got the better of him

                          TNT's Terrence Jones and SMB's Boatwright

                          And now RHJ

                          Idk. Maybe there is some common denominator between the 3.
                          Or just TNT has Brownlee defenders such as Pogoy, Khobuntin and Oftana.. other teams don't have that leverage that TNT has.. in 2017 semis, TNT also beat Ginebra in that series, they were playing with injured Joshua Smith.. their defenders for brownlee are prime Ryan Reyes, Young Pogoy and tough Anthony Semerad... SMB doesn't have JB defenders, same with Meralco.. that's why both can't win against tim cone and JB led Ginebra... 2018 Magnolia also beat JB led Ginebra because they have Romeo Travis, another good defender against Brownlee

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                          • I don't understand why some posters here are surprised at how well RHJ matches up against Brownlee. Have you all forgotten that RHJ was the first import to beat Brownlee in the Governor's Cup Finals just last year?

                            Anyway, I love Brownlee because of what he's done for Gilas but it looks like he's really showing his age against RHJ who is in his prime right now. It looks like Ginebra is missing Stanhardinger as TNT didn't have an answer for him in the Finals last year.

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                            • Originally posted by Joe Yabuki View Post
                              Ginebra's size was their own undoing here, they heavily rely on their guards to click on their offense. Their only playable bigs are Japeth and Brownlee.
                              Their perimeter players including Brownlee were superior to SMB. TNT has somebody who can stop JB. Also TNT has good perimeter players.

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                                Actually nga, TNT did it through defense. Denied Brownlee passing lanes and clean looks. That's the real surprise from Chot, the defensive-oriented identity of TNT. In the past, defense isn't the first thing to come to mind when discussing Chot Reyes in recent years.

                                Couple that with Chot using actual small ball, using RHJ at the 4, which hasn't changed.
                                TNT was defensive team in their championship run in 2021 AFC.. they are the reason breaking SMB's fabled death 5, after their loss, SMB forced to trade Arwind and Cabagnot to be a younger team...

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