PBA 49th Season

[reamily]

Ginebra should be by committee team the only mistake prev players have is you play to be mvp, you dont do that on a loaded team like Ginebra.. rj was able to orchestrate offense even without a legit pick and roll guy...Stephen holt is a all nbl team member and now not a offensive threat..Chua shouldve been patient he can have Rj and holt without giving up cstan or amybe even malonzo

[Rds]

They also drafted the wrong guy I guess. RJ ain't it, he had like 3 straight forced shot after handling the ball all throughout the shotclock in the middle of 4th quarter. He is trying so hard to look like the prime Romeo, damn.

The inside threat they lacking would have been answered by drafting Poli or Balungay. I guess the surname is just thicker than that.

RJ is smart and wiley on offense but he doesnt seem to have any physical advantage. He is not particularly fast or explosive. Which won’t be so bad if he could defend. He is one of the worst defending guards in the PBA. Just like that for TF now SMB guard. Cone doesnt like hiding players on defense. So RJ is forced to make miracles whenever he is on the floor. Because there is a big chance he will be scored on in the other end.

Al Chua and Cone just looked at the last name when drafting this guy. Well I guess they needed a PG. The best available players they alread had similar ones. So I guess why not make a marketing move. The problem with those are you know the guy had a big hole in his game. No marketing can fix that.

Their two PGs are flawed. Their starting PG is an undersized SF who cannot really facilitate.

I think if JB won’t play let Holt drive and pass more. Given the right setup he should be able to drive against his man.

[reamily]

the game exemplifies the organized chaos chot cannot replicate in intl setting ever since 2013... Intl teams are discipline enough to stick on the defensive game plan..lots of open guys for tnt..

[Giannis34GOD]

Ginebra should be by committee team the only mistake prev players have is you play to be mvp, you dont do that on a loaded team like Ginebra.. rj was able to orchestrate offense even without a legit pick and roll guy...Stephen holt is a all nbl team member and now not a offensive threat..Chua shouldve been patient he can have Rj and holt without giving up cstan or amybe even malonzo

Then who you will give to get them? If you talk about lopsided trades again then stop it.. reason why PBA declining due to lopsided trades of past transactions between big teams and so called farm teams... I was also wondering why they get RJ? Because they get Holt already, who can definitely play PG role plus Scottie who regularly plays PG for Ginebra.. I was expecting to get either Tiongson or Ballungay for them actually.. RJ could be better playing for other teams who need him such as ROS or Meralco.. RJ might better with that team who badly needs talent..

[lem0nadi]

RJ is smart and wiley on offense but he doesnt seem to have any physical advantage. He is not particularly fast or explosive. Which won’t be so bad if he could defend. He is one of the worst defending guards in the PBA. Just like that for TF now SMB guard. Cone doesnt like hiding players on defense. So RJ is forced to make miracles whenever he is on the floor. Because there is a big chance he will be scored on in the other end.

Al Chua and Cone just looked at the last name when drafting this guy. Well I guess they needed a PG. The best available players they alread had similar ones. So I guess why not make a marketing move. The problem with those are you know the guy had a big hole in his game. No marketing can fix that.

Their two PGs are flawed. Their starting PG is an undersized SF who cannot really facilitate.

I think if JB won’t play let Holt drive and pass more. Given the right setup he should be able to drive against his man.

He looks so reckless. I have not seen anyone like him who tries so hard on isolation with fancy dribbles since Romeo's prime. Bad thing is he is not that good as someone who was called once as the golden boy.

He is so one dimensional that when his offense does not work anymore, he would be just on a cardio game.

That KBL stint really made him look good nonetheless. Although now I understand why he did not last long with his BLeague team.

Also Holt is so under utilized, this is the result when the team is so loaded that the coach don't know which player to rely on anymore.

[lem0nadi]

Any bigs on the draft like Tiongson, Poli, or Balungay would have good results over RJ's doing right now.

They already have Scottie, Mav, Holt, and the other rookie guy from Ateneo, what is the purpose of getting another ball dominant guy?

[Giannis34GOD]

RJ is smart and wiley on offense but he doesnt seem to have any physical advantage. He is not particularly fast or explosive. Which won’t be so bad if he could defend. He is one of the worst defending guards in the PBA. Just like that for TF now SMB guard. Cone doesnt like hiding players on defense. So RJ is forced to make miracles whenever he is on the floor. Because there is a big chance he will be scored on in the other end.

Al Chua and Cone just looked at the last name when drafting this guy. Well I guess they needed a PG. The best available players they alread had similar ones. So I guess why not make a marketing move. The problem with those are you know the guy had a big hole in his game. No marketing can fix that.

Their two PGs are flawed. Their starting PG is an undersized SF who cannot really facilitate.

I think if JB won’t play let Holt drive and pass more. Given the right setup he should be able to drive against his man.

Not an popular opinion, but I guess he might more flourish with DDO type of system of Chot or Free flowing offense of Tab rather than Triangle of Tim... We saw that already how he flourished with those systems who he has played for.. he needs the ball to be effective, and triangle is not that system that he can flourish.. Same what happened to Pringle when he was traded to Ginebra after stellar performance in Northport...

[Giannis34GOD]

He looks so reckless. I have not seen anyone like him who tries so hard on isolation with fancy dribbles since Romeo's prime. Bad thing is he is not that good as someone who was called once as the golden boy.

He is so one dimensional that when his offense does not work anymore, he would be just on a cardio game.

That KBL stint really made him look good nonetheless. Although now I understand why he did not last long with his BLeague team.

Also Holt is so under utilized, this is the result when the team is so loaded that the coach don't know which player to rely on anymore.

Same goes to Tamayo, he didn't shine in B league.. that shows B league is much higher level than KBL.. KBL might higher than PBA level but I think it's a closer level than level of B league and the PBA comparison.. remember Meralco even beat KCC, teams like UP and LaSalle beating some KBL teams.. so I don't buy what Tamayo or KQ doing well in KBL because it's like they are also playing in PBA level...

[Giannis34GOD]

Can Ginebra replace their import in this finals in case? Is that allowed? I remember Bay area changing imports in the finals series but that was because both imports already in their official line up.. Ginebra didn't have replacement import in their official line up release before the playoffs.. it will be allowed to change imports in case brownlee can't play the rest of the series due to injury? I think finger injury can still playable but you can't perform that way in a higher level.. Troy did play before in the finals despite finger injury when he was in TNT facing Magnolia in the finals before after he and Jackson Corpuz collide in unfortunate accident...

[lionscraze]

They can have a replacement import, but with only a day in between games, it would be logistically impossible to fly in an import and take care of necessary paper work. I think Ginebra will just play it All Filipino all throughout the series (which would most likely end in Game 5) especially with Tim Cone’s preference for team chemistry.

But if they choose to just get an import for the sake of it, then they can tap Ange Kouame. He could probably relieve Japeth who’s been aweful whenever he is inside the court.

[Joe Yabuki]

Any bigs on the draft like Tiongson, Poli, or Balungay would have good results over RJ's doing right now.

They already have Scottie, Mav, Holt, and the other rookie guy from Ateneo, what is the purpose of getting another ball dominant guy?

Holt has turned to a 3 and D guy they definitely need him to contain RHJ, Mav to be quite frank is unplayable against Ginebra and is just relegated as a shooter, Scotty is scotty no natural playmaking instincts but gets by through being relentless.. sometimes.

Id say Cone probably wont pick Poli since he seems headless in NLEX right now but they can definitely draft Balunggay. Ideally they would've drafted Balunggay and picked up Heading in free agency since they desperately need a big man (japeth is woeful at this point) and an actual playmaker since their offense looks very rough without JB

[Giannis34GOD]

Holt has turned to a 3 and D guy they definitely need him to contain RHJ, Mav to be quite frank is unplayable against Ginebra and is just relegated as a shooter, Scotty is scotty no natural playmaking instincts but gets by through being relentless.. sometimes.

Id say Cone probably wont pick Poli since he seems headless in NLEX right now but they can definitely draft Balunggay. Ideally they would've drafted Balunggay and picked up Heading in free agency since they desperately need a big man (japeth is woeful at this point) and an actual playmaker since their offense looks very rough without JB

They could pick Caelan Tiongson by the way.. I was thinking either Tiongson or Ballungay for them than RJ , My mock draft was RJ should be atleast 5th pick by Northport, honestly speaking Northport could have better place for RJ since they badly need quality PG for them...Tiongson will be a good fit for Ginebra since he's a versatile forward.. Holt can play his natural role in his career.. Holt was projected to be Mikey Williams clone career but was restricted now as Don trollano path career.. Holt is not a 3 and D player, he is a scoring combo guard...

[Giannis34GOD]

They can have a replacement import, but with only a day in between games, it would be logistically impossible to fly in an import and take care of necessary paper work. I think Ginebra will just play it All Filipino all throughout the series (which would most likely end in Game 5) especially with Tim Cone’s preference for team chemistry.

But if they choose to just get an import for the sake of it, then they can tap Ange Kouame. He could probably relieve Japeth who’s been aweful whenever he is inside the court.

Well, Ginebra has the money to sent quickly replacement for JB.. they can do that by the way, but yes, knowing tim cone, he will not take that risk.. they will get new import and need to know each other first, it's impossible in this later part of the series.. they can't even know if they will get an import if he's good or not.. Lastly, triangle system needed months to learn the system.. baka Mamaya topakin pa..

[Blueorgreen22]

Any inside info re: JB?

Is it dislocated/fractured? Seems like no official update yet on him.

Hope he gets well soon.

[Joe Yabuki]

Any inside info re: JB?

Is it dislocated/fractured? Seems like no official update yet on him.

Hope he gets well soon.

Closest insider info was RJ on a post game interview saying its not looking good as per the team doctor