2025 Fiba u16 Asian Championship

[Athrunzala]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t67w4CADUAE

[lem0nadi]

Owen Calanasan

Owen's 2008-born I think. He will be eligible to play with the u18 team only.

[ARMIR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t67w4CADUAE

So Gilas U16 might just have a 7'0 and a 6'10 centers,now if they can find an athletic 6'8 SF FilAm player that's eligible,this team might have a chance to get to the finals,this team will look like they will have size in every position.

[BJ_Reloaded]

I stand to be corrected on this.

one thing I've been observing, even during the BAP days

that the NF of sports are not into the so-called "Skills Training on all kids identified by their respective scouts".

rather they are more(?) focus on the "Coaching Seminars to those who are aspiring to become a basketball coach someday".

I haven't read nor heard that the previous and the latest NF are venturing(on a long term basis) into the Skills Training stuff to those identified and discovered.

the thing that I've seen so far is when they are opening or conducting a "Basketball Training Seminars on a particular region

sessions with the kids are just for a limited time only because after the seminar "it's now your thing".

lucky to those kids who had parents that can afford to hire a skills coach and unfortunate to those talented but impoverished kids

if Sir Metta reads this he knows what I'm talking about.

I do hope it's high time to SBP to somehow focus more on the skills training stuff esp. to those kids with potentials but lack many resources

I remember the statement of CCR before when Sta. Lucia drafted the Machine Gun/Rasengan Kelly

"Ako ang nagsaing pero iba ang kumain". I think he is referring also to JDV, JWash and Gabe as well

allegedly(?) he is the one who discovered those hafus before when he still shopping around at Uncle Sam's backyard before

luckily nowadays they already had some collaboration with Filam Nation Select and several Filipino organization thru the recently concluded "Las Vegas Camp"

whom I think will now be on a yearly basis in preparation as well to the annual NBTC Manila Live Games

I do hope that's not the case at the domestic front because as per Sir Armir "U16 might just have a 7'0 and 6'10 now".

SBP should put up a program and collaborate with the parents, guardians, the schools, the handlers among others

to those who are already identified for further training for future Batang Gilas itinerary.

but then again, money issues keeps on bugging our Youth Team since the time of Adam

when was the last time we've won a medal on a FIBA Asia youth level??

oh dear..

that is why.

[Metta]

I stand to be corrected on this.

one thing I've been observing, even during the BAP days

that the NF of sports are not into the so-called "Skills Training on all kids identified by their respective scouts".

rather they are more(?) focus on the "Coaching Seminars to those who are aspiring to become a basketball coach someday".

I haven't read nor heard that the previous and the latest NF are venturing(on a long term basis) into the Skills Training stuff to those identified and discovered.

the thing that I've seen so far is when they are opening or conducting a "Basketball Training Seminars on a particular region

sessions with the kids are just for a limited time only because after the seminar "it's now your thing".

lucky to those kids who had parents that can afford to hire a skills coach and unfortunate to those talented but impoverished kids

if Sir Metta reads this he knows what I'm talking about.

The thing with skills training is...it is really something that is left to the player to do on his own time (and on his own dime). It is like the amount of time a student studies on his own, the teachers can't mandate everyone to study outside of school hours. It's like if all the schools offered Kumon classes or Singapore Math to all students, the highest-achieving students will then take advanced calculus on their own to stay ahead. Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.

And yes of course, those with the means have an advantage. But it shouldn't be the case anymore, just on youtube alone, all the latest training methods can be learned for free.

[Metta]

...and this is a big reason why we don't have a lot of elite shooters. World-level shooters shoot hundreds to thousands of shots a day. It will be hard to find anyone who does that in the whole country. It's skills training that doesn't even need a coach. Same thing with dribbling. All the effective dribbling drills are on youtube, one just needs a ball.

[bluenote49]

QUOTE=Metta;n2467052]
Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.[/QUOTE]

...and this is a big reason why we don't have a lot of elite shooters. World-level shooters shoot hundreds to thousands of shots a day. It will be hard to find anyone who does that in the whole country. It's skills training that doesn't even need a coach. Same thing with dribbling. All the effective dribbling drills are on youtube, one just needs a ball.

Compressing the 3 conferences of the PBA schedule into 8 months period will do wonders for our local players. It will give them enough time to rest, work out, skill training, and conditioning. It'll separate those who work hard from the bums.

[sroth3839]

QUOTE=Metta;n2467052]
Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.

Compressing the 3 conferences of the PBA schedule into 8 months period will do wonders for our local players. It will give them enough time to rest, work out, skill training, and conditioning. It'll separate those who work hard from the bums.
[/QUOTE]

They should just go back to the 2 conference format and find a way to maximize viewership in one conference.

[BJ_Reloaded]

The thing with skills training is...it is really something that is left to the player to do on his own time (and on his own dime). It is like the amount of time a student studies on his own, the teachers can't mandate everyone to study outside of school hours. It's like if all the schools offered Kumon classes or Singapore Math to all students, the highest-achieving students will then take advanced calculus on their own to stay ahead. Everyone has different work ethics and there will always be someone who wants it more that 99% of the comp, and those guys are the ones that become elite.

Whatever amount skills training teams/coaches incorporate into their program, it still won't be enough to become the best because there will always be dudes who are doing at least twice that amount of work on his own. Dwight Ramos said it best in one of his interviews, he works out 2 to 3 times a day. One is with his team and the rest is on his own. Majority of guys will do that 1 training with the team, what will give you separation is that extra work on your own.

And yes of course, those with the means have an advantage. But it shouldn't be the case anymore, just on youtube alone, all the latest training methods can be learned for free.

Sir Mets,

exactly.

I just want to emphasize on that "bold" part.

young and old, all of us had different work ethics in life

when we were all studying and now part of the work force

we encountered many people with different philosophy and principle as well

and honestly, during my younger years I used to compare myself to others esp. to those so-called "dreaded batugans".

opps!! sorry man you must not do that, that is why I'm improving myself and not be judgemental because that ain't the biblical way the christian way.

now before I become preachy here, I totally agree about you said about your view on skills training

worth mentioning is about Dwight and that "youtube" thing you mentioned wherein KQuiam is an example.

realistically, it's all about "self motivation" not only in sports but in life in general

for discussion sake,

in a perfect situation, SBP should also(must)invest in skills training program for those kids with potentials

as I said, self motivating type of skills training as Dwight as a perfect example is an ideal example

if the intention is to be "ahead" of the contemporaries

it is really an advantage to a particular NF if they had in-house skills training coach for kids

I stand to be corrected on this, I think USA Basketball had this thing with the intention of

maximizing the potential under their pool aside from their respective session with their respective private coaches

[Metta]

Yes, I understand what you're trying to say. I guess the closest to what you're pertaining to is the European model. When it comes to skills training, teams there provide the same as in the US. The biggest difference is the "allotted time" for practice. While in the US youth players practice 3 or more times during the weekdays and then have tournaments in the weekends (with 4 to sometimes more than 8 games in a weekend), Europeans practice the whole week and only play about 1 game a week.

And it's not that what the skills work they're doing is that much more advanced than the US (it's not an issue of skills coach quality), the main difference is again allotted time. If they practice passing, they would practice passing for a whole week. Sometimes one particular pass (let's say bounce pass) for a whole day.

It's a difference in philosophy. In the Philippines, we are more of the American mindset where most people think players get better the more they are playing in actual games.

For me, when it comes to youth players, the European model is much better. As the players get older, that's when practice becomes less important and playing actual games and working on the body becomes just as important.

So in essence, for youth players, there's really no need to get more qualified skills trainers or train coaches to become better coaches. It's more of allot more time towards practice and master skills one at a time. This somehow forces even the youth players with low work ethic to spend more time working on skills.

[Joe Yabuki]

LA Tenorio named as new head coach of gilas youth

[CoJ]

LA Tenorio named as new head coach of gilas youth

Expect LA and Chua to stash those U16 recruits @ espana

[Joe Yabuki]

Expect LA and Chua to stash those U16 recruits @ espana

Maybe but if Taft and Diliman wants someone i dont think no one can stop them.

[Silent Killer]

Gabe norwood eyed as LA's assistant

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/gabe-norwood-being-considered-as-one-of-tenorio-s-deputies-with-gilas-youth-a795-20241119?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20241119-fbnp-basketball-gabe-norwood-being-considered-as-one-of-tenorio-s-deputies-with-gilas-youth-a795-20241119-fbnew&fbclid=IwY2xjawGpaWhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSeIO0C5-TcySQONIHPBVGFA_E6PG9UWwRAZKUtQHZypHrnPNJ3vaHpaJw_aem_aVtJYHqyxmgxIZyPc_mMgQ

[BJ_Reloaded]

Expect LA and Chua to stash those U16 recruits @ espana

Good Day Sir CoJ,

as much as we despise the so-called "Pirates of the Caribbean" in our youth landscape

I think the right move for both coach LA, Grandpa Chualay and coach Gabe

is to set a meeting with all those stake holders in the HS level because that thing

is really an onion

unless they decided that the propose youth pool are compose of overseas hafus

then they could stash all they want

but that's not the case

I think only the likes of James Sanderson, Kainoa Patton, Trey Pinkard, Jordan Mize

had a chance to crack that F12 and the rest will be full-blooded.

we do hope there will be no "jerking around" because as a fan

I am sick and tired of reading and hearing news about certain schools are holding back

because there's a snake in the pit.