2024 Collegiate Pre-Season (EcoOil-FilOil & PinoyLiga)

[gospursgo]

Maybe magkakatalo sa attitude. U know what I mean.

How is Lopez' perimeter defense? Is his laterals good enough?

In the game against dlsu, he did a good job keeping up with kq in the perimeter, as he had a hard time getting past through him. He made kq take some ill advised shots in the perimeter late in the game.

[OverratedTabBaldwin]

This may suggest it won't be enough having a good facilitator type of a combo forward, as in the case of Kevin Quiambao, while your point guards aren't good enough. Even if you have a facilitator playing as a wing or a "four", your team would still need an intelligent & skilled point guard to get the job done.

La Salle can win a bunch of games against low-level opponents but they would struggle against elite teams with depth, length, and athleticism like UP, specially now that they only have one above-average playmaker in KQ. Don't get me wrong, La Salle and UP are so evenly matched and I expect both teams to easily be 1A and 1B in season 87.

[OverratedTabBaldwin]

Francis Lopez reminds me a lot of Kobe Paras. Same kinks on their game, same competitive temperament, loose handles, suspect 3, insane athleticism, capable interior defender and some rim protection from the 3/4 position.

That said, I hope Lopez is what we’d hoped Kobe would be.

Good comparison but even as a Kobe Paras fan, I would have to say that 21-year old Lopez is a better playmaker and finisher than 21-year old Kobe. Paras could've been "that" guy if someone like Gold coached him instead of Perasol. Sucks to see Kobe's talents go to waste. I would be happy just to see Kobe become a serviceable 3 and D guy for Gilas but even that looks bleak at this point.

[Rds]

In the game against dlsu, he did a good job keeping up with kq in the perimeter, as he had a hard time getting past through him. He made kq take some ill advised shots in the perimeter late in the game.

From the few minutes that I saw I would say driving is his weakest move. It would be effective against a traditional PF but for someone who guards the perimeter I dont think it would be a challenge if you are also strong enough to handle KQs movement. I would rate Policarpio a smoother driver than KQ. KQ is just stronger, a bit taller and has good 3 pt shooting. From what Ive heard Lopez has trouble keeping up with Poli in the perimeter but apparently not KQ.

Im glad KQ is finally able to score over Alarcon. It would have been embarassing for the 6’5 MVP being stopped by 6 foot Alarcon. But it seems he found a match against Lopez. This will be a problem.

The one big question remaining is how will Mike P impact this matchup. With MP, La Salle can rotate him and Aguanne without almost no loss on defense and rebounding. Will Alter or Gani be effective matching up against MP. For now I will favor La Salle because they have the best defensive center rotation in the league. Alter is not bad. So let’s see when they match up at full power.

[greenarcher]

From the few minutes that I saw I would say driving is his weakest move. It would be effective against a traditional PF but for someone who guards the perimeter I dont think it would be a challenge if you are also strong enough to handle KQs movement. I would rate Policarpio a smoother driver than KQ. KQ is just stronger, a bit taller and has good 3 pt shooting. From what Ive heard Lopez has trouble keeping up with Poli in the perimeter but apparently not KQ.

Im glad KQ is finally able to score over Alarcon. It would have been embarassing for the 6’5 MVP being stopped by 6 foot Alarcon. But it seems he found a match against Lopez. This will be a problem.

The one big question remaining is how will Mike P impact this matchup. With MP, La Salle can rotate him and Aguanne without almost no loss on defense and rebounding. Will Alter or Gani be effective matching up against MP. For now I will favor La Salle because they have the best defensive center rotation in the league. Alter is not bad. So let’s see when they match up at full power.

Udodo had Mike's number in the 1st game.

Udodo on Mike
Alter/Torculas on Henry
Lopez on KQ

Poli needs to step up big time. Cortez too.

[Metta]

Poli has a more effective first step than KQ. He's a bit more natural when it comes to moving like a wing than KQ. Not that long ago, majority of people considered KQ strictly as a big. Now we're analyzing his blow-by capabilities. I think he's still improving in that department.

For me, him transforming to a very good 3-pt shooter is more important. It enables space. He can use that shooting ability paired with his strength and passing to be a poor man's version of Doncic instead of regularly blowing by opponents which will never happen internationally.

Lopez somewhat defending him effectively is why our players need to keep playing against tall and athletic competition. It's what makes you refine your skills and continually improve.

[Metta]

Udodo had Mike's number in the 1st game.

Udodo on Mike
Alter/Torculas on Henry
Lopez on KQ

Poli needs to step up big time. Cortez too.

Because he can match up his length and athleticism. Now it forces Mike to develop more skills.

[greenarcher]

Poli is faster and more explosive than KQ but he was out of control in that 3rd quarter UP comeback.

He will need to learn how to finish strong (like Austria) and have a more consistent jumper as well.

[TheRodster21]

Lopez I think has all the physical tools to be a good defender, strong build, long arms, athletic, earlier in the game he was fitting through screens and he has good footwork I think as well, in the fourth he looked exhausted was t fighting through screens but he really bothered KQ and mostly stayed with him a lot. Policarpio I would think also could be since he has long arms, athleticism and his build is leaner but still strong however I think he looks flat footed when he plays perimeter defense and sometimes just disengages and ball watches, he plays drop coverage a lot in dlsu and does not go out into the perimeter at all most of the time leading to open shots and him getting lost on D sometimes. He kind of reminds me of Japeth a bit in the sense that if he makes a mistake it gets into his head and leads to a series of more mistakes

[IPC]

Poli has a more effective first step than KQ. He's a bit more natural when it comes to moving like a wing than KQ. Not that long ago, majority of people considered KQ strictly as a big. Now we're analyzing his blow-by capabilities. I think he's still improving in that department.

For me, him transforming to a very good 3-pt shooter is more important. It enables space. He can use that shooting ability paired with his strength and passing to be a poor man's version of Doncic instead of regularly blowing by opponents which will never happen internationally.

Lopez somewhat defending him effectively is why our players need to keep playing against tall and athletic competition. It's what makes you refine your skills and continually improve.

Lopez I think has all the physical tools to be a good defender, strong build, long arms, athletic, earlier in the game he was fitting through screens and he has good footwork I think as well, in the fourth he looked exhausted was t fighting through screens but he really bothered KQ and mostly stayed with him a lot. Policarpio I would think also could be since he has long arms, athleticism and his build is leaner but still strong however I think he looks flat footed when he plays perimeter defense and sometimes just disengages and ball watches, he plays drop coverage a lot in dlsu and does not go out into the perimeter at all most of the time leading to open shots and him getting lost on D sometimes. He kind of reminds me of Japeth a bit in the sense that if he makes a mistake it gets into his head and leads to a series of more mistakes

Both Lopez and Policarpio had concerns in perimeter defense last year.

Hopefully, Lopez can keep up that strong defense in the UAAP. That will go a long way for him getting called up. He's a tad small for 4 at 6'5", so he'll have to play the 3 full-time.

[OverratedTabBaldwin]

From the few minutes that I saw I would say driving is his weakest move. It would be effective against a traditional PF but for someone who guards the perimeter I dont think it would be a challenge if you are also strong enough to handle KQs movement. I would rate Policarpio a smoother driver than KQ. KQ is just stronger, a bit taller and has good 3 pt shooting. From what Ive heard Lopez has trouble keeping up with Poli in the perimeter but apparently not KQ.

Im glad KQ is finally able to score over Alarcon. It would have been embarassing for the 6’5 MVP being stopped by 6 foot Alarcon. But it seems he found a match against Lopez. This will be a problem.

The one big question remaining is how will Mike P impact this matchup. With MP, La Salle can rotate him and Aguanne without almost no loss on defense and rebounding. Will Alter or Gani be effective matching up against MP. For now I will favor La Salle because they have the best defensive center rotation in the league. Alter is not bad. So let’s see when they match up at full power.

UP already beat La Salle in the first game of FilOil with Philips and Agunnane, 89-77. UP put Torculas/Belmonte on Philips if Agunnane is on the floor. When La Salle paired Philips with Agunnane, UP just clogged the lanes and dared both of them to shoot. Udodo seems to match up really well against Philips compared to Alter or Stevens.

UP has to work extra hard defensively in season 87 because Diouf is no longer around to bail out their mistakes. On a different note, I don't understand why Gani Stevens is still in the UAAP. His game is a lot more suited in the NCAA where slow-footed centers are still a thing.

[Rds]

UP already beat La Salle in the first game of FilOil with Philips and Agunnane, 89-77. UP put Torculas/Belmonte on Philips if Agunnane is on the floor. When La Salle paired Philips with Agunnane, UP just clogged the lanes and dared both of them to shoot. Udodo seems to match up really well against Philips compared to Alter or Stevens.

UP has to work extra hard defensively in season 87 because Diouf is no longer around to bail out their mistakes. On a different note, I don't understand why Gani Stevens is still in the UAAP. His game is a lot more suited in the NCAA where slow-footed centers are still a thing.

Actually, this was also a question in my mind. It's possible he's in UP for the education.

Also having a good FSA like Agunnane will be a challenge for Philipps. How long has he been in the UAAP and he still hasn't developed his perimeter shooting. His minutes will definitely be affected by Agunnane. He also needs this for the PBA. While he has decent strength he is not as strong as a Bates. He might find it hard in the PBA without a perimeter shot.

[JAMSKIE]

In the game against dlsu, he did a good job keeping up with kq in the perimeter, as he had a hard time getting past through him. He made kq take some ill advised shots in the perimeter late in the game.

While we have to credit Lopez for a good defensive job on Quiambao especially in the 4th quarter, I think the game also exposed Quiambao's weakness in creating his shots off the dribble in the perimeter if he is the focus of the opposing team's defense. Puro mintis mga tira ni KQ sa 4th quarter. He struggled big time in the entire 2nd half.

I think it's a lot to do with KQ being more of a "four" than a natural wingman. We have to remember that KQ started out playing as a natural big guy especially in high school. Yes, he has outside shooting, he can dribble & his passing is exceptional but that doesn't really make him a natural wingman.

Iba talaga gumalaw ang mga natural wingman like a Dwight Ramos or a Calvin Oftana. U can see the difference how they can create their own shots off the dribble from the perimeter as compared to how KQ does it. U can see how fluid Ramos & Oftana are in the way they dribble drive. The same couldn't be said about KQ.

At best, KQ can be a combo forward or a tweener, but he's no natural wingman.

[xenoloxy]

While we have to credit Lopez for a good defensive job on Quiambao especially in the 4th quarter, I think the game also exposed Quiambao's weakness in creating his shots off the dribble in the perimeter if he is the focus of the opposing team's defense. Puro mintis mga tira ni KQ sa 4th quarter. He struggled big time in the entire 2nd half.

I think it's a lot to do with KQ being more of a "four" than a natural wingman. We have to remember that KQ started out playing as a natural big guy especially in high school. Yes, he has outside shooting, he can dribble & his passing is exceptional but that doesn't really make him a natural wingman.

Iba talaga gumalaw ang mga natural wingman like a Dwight Ramos or a Calvin Oftana. U can see the difference how they can create their own shots off the dribble from the perimeter as compared to how KQ does it. U can see how fluid Ramos & Oftana are in the way they dribble drive. The same couldn't be said about KQ.

At best, KQ can be a combo forward or a tweener, but he's no natural wingman.

I think KQ's best service to gilas is his shooting (a role more like the one he had with SGA) and playmaking. we shouldn't rely on him to create his own shot at least not yet

[OverratedTabBaldwin]

Actually, this was also a question in my mind. It's possible he's in UP for the education.

Also having a good FSA like Agunnane will be a challenge for Philipps. How long has he been in the UAAP and he still hasn't developed his perimeter shooting. His minutes will definitely be affected by Agunnane. He also needs this for the PBA. While he has decent strength he is not as strong as a Bates. He might find it hard in the PBA without a perimeter shot.

The big paycheck that Stevens gets from UP also helps lol. On a serious note, Philips reminds me of a taller and more athletic Pingris with his high motor, athleticism, and length. But I agree that Philips needs to develop a reliable jumper and additional core strength if he wants to play for Gilas.