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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post











    Jumper aside, how's Lopez defensively? Does he slide his feet laterally? Can he keep up with players in the perimeter? Kasi, with that athleticism and physical gifts, he has the tools to be a good defender. But, I saw in a comment in the UAAP 86 thread that he struggled to keep up laterally on the perimeter.

    If he's going to be a viable wing option, he needs to improve on defense, especially in man-to-man situations in the perimeter.
    Kinda depressing to know that some years ago people were debating who's gonna be the first homegrown player to play in the NBA and his name is being thrown around with Kai and AJ. Not really sure if he's even the best at his position in UP..

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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post

      Crap, I meant 5-13 in 17 games. Sorry.

      He has good touch, but yeah, mechanics do matter. Wrong mechanics or bad practice will limit some aspects of shooting.
      5-13 isn’t bad, better than I thought.

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      • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post

        5-13 isn’t bad, better than I thought.
        A 38.4% shooting clip is better than average, more so at the UAAP level. Even a 5-17 clip would have meant he’s average.

        the knock here is the small attempt volume. We’ll see how good he really is with more touches.

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        • idk maybe it's just me but I feel like lopez has been improving at a steady rate, he's also clearly playing within the system im sure if his team didn't have the talent that it has (which is a lot especially ith the likes of Bayla coming in) the coaching staff would give him more leeway

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          • Originally posted by xenoloxy View Post
            idk maybe it's just me but I feel like lopez has been improving at a steady rate, he's also clearly playing within the system im sure if his team didn't have the talent that it has (which is a lot especially ith the likes of Bayla coming in) the coaching staff would give him more leeway
            Maybe not as much improvement as most of us here have expected in the last 3 years or so.

            Well, the good thing about Lopez is that he's still young. He'll turn 21 few days from now. The key is for him to polish basic basketball skills - shooting, dribbling & defense. Most players start to seriously improve/polish basic skills when they reach 20 to 23 years old. Take the case of the 23-year old Kevin Quiambao who obviously has improved his game in the last 2 years or so. I think everyone will agree that current Kevin Quiambao is a significantly better basketball player than a 21-year old Kevin Quiambao. I think Quiambao made a conscious & serious efforts in polishing his shooting & ball handling in the last 2 years. If Lopez is going to do the same, I'm confident Lopez will be a significantly better player 2 or 3 years from now. Hope Lopez hires a skill coach/trainer that would focus on polishing his shooting, ball handling & defense.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Lopez has improved. But his jumping needs to be still improved. Guy doesn't know how to jump and land safely in traffic.
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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                Maybe not as much improvement as most of us here have expected in the last 3 years or so.

                Well, the good thing about Lopez is that he's still young. He'll turn 21 few days from now. The key is for him to polish basic basketball skills - shooting, dribbling & defense. Most players start to seriously improve/polish basic skills when they reach 20 to 23 years old. Take the case of the 23-year old Kevin Quiambao who obviously has improved his game in the last 2 years or so. I think everyone will agree that current Kevin Quiambao is a significantly better basketball player than a 21-year old Kevin Quiambao. I think Quiambao made a conscious & serious efforts in polishing his shooting & ball handling in the last 2 years. If Lopez is going to do the same, I'm confident Lopez will be a significantly better player 2 or 3 years from now. Hope Lopez hires a skill coach/trainer that would focus on polishing his shooting, ball handling & defense.
                Shooting and ball handling are general terms.

                in the case of KQ, his is a much better passer but his handles could still use some work. He cannot get past smaller, peskier defenders when coming from the perimeter and this limits both his ability to leverage his size driving to the basket, and his ability to playmake using his own movement rather than his teammates’ off-ball movement.

                Lopez in contrast has drastically improved his three point shot, including some step-backs which he has been displaying for a while now. He also has tight enough handles to drive even against smaller defenders, and has already proven last year that he is good at the kick-out pass either when driving, or when being the high post man in a zone-buster offense.

                what Lopez specifically lacks is a mid-range shot, especially a pull-up. He also hasn’t taken more threes so defenders usually correctly expect a drive or a pass. Lopez also doesn’t have good vision dishing to the dunker spot, unlike his teammates Alarcon and Felicilda. Lopez in general hasn’t had the ability to take advantage of his teammates’ off-ball movement in the way KQ does.

                Defensively we haven’t seen much by way of laterals because he has been defending post players more often, and teams employ post attacks more than pick and rolls against UP because of a perceived weakness at the 4 spot. But Lopez has good anticipation on the weakside both going for helpside blocks or intercepting cross-court passes.

                Lopez has a lot of homework to do, but to say he hasn’t improved a lot is a bit of a stretch. Even intangibles-wise, he has proven to be good at absorbing the system and playing within it, and is a loud cheerleader on the bench.

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                • Originally posted by athleticmind2005 View Post
                  Shooting and ball handling are general terms.

                  in the case of KQ, his is a much better passer but his handles could still use some work. He cannot get past smaller, peskier defenders when coming from the perimeter and this limits both his ability to leverage his size driving to the basket, and his ability to playmake using his own movement rather than his teammates’ off-ball movement.

                  Lopez in contrast has drastically improved his three point shot, including some step-backs which he has been displaying for a while now. He also has tight enough handles to drive even against smaller defenders, and has already proven last year that he is good at the kick-out pass either when driving, or when being the high post man in a zone-buster offense.

                  what Lopez specifically lacks is a mid-range shot, especially a pull-up. He also hasn’t taken more threes so defenders usually correctly expect a drive or a pass. Lopez also doesn’t have good vision dishing to the dunker spot, unlike his teammates Alarcon and Felicilda. Lopez in general hasn’t had the ability to take advantage of his teammates’ off-ball movement in the way KQ does.

                  Defensively we haven’t seen much by way of laterals because he has been defending post players more often, and teams employ post attacks more than pick and rolls against UP because of a perceived weakness at the 4 spot. But Lopez has good anticipation on the weakside both going for helpside blocks or intercepting cross-court passes.

                  Lopez has a lot of homework to do, but to say he hasn’t improved a lot is a bit of a stretch. Even intangibles-wise, he has proven to be good at absorbing the system and playing within it, and is a loud cheerleader on the bench.
                  Defensively, Lopez should improve his laterals. In FIBA, he's a wing. And I think defense carries more importance at the wing than just shooting if we're talking internationally. That is, if the wing's not at the level of a Fadi El-Khatib or a Samad Nikkah Bahrami.

                  If Lopez wants to be a scorer in the international level, he needs creation in the midrange and enough handles to pull that off.

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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                    Defensively, Lopez should improve his laterals. In FIBA, he's a wing. And I think defense carries more importance at the wing than just shooting if we're talking internationally. That is, if the wing's not at the level of a Fadi El-Khatib or a Samad Nikkah Bahrami.

                    If Lopez wants to be a scorer in the international level, he needs creation in the midrange and enough handles to pull that off.
                    agree. Norwood got away with being a mediocre outside shooter because of his defense and secondary playmaking ability.

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                    • Mara is not included in CSB's line up in Filoil as per Blazers FB page.

                      Whats a good landing spot for him? Lyceum perhaps? They lack bigs too

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                      • Originally posted by spaxcundo View Post
                        Mara is not included in CSB's line up in Filoil as per Blazers FB page.

                        Whats a good landing spot for him? Lyceum perhaps? They lack bigs too
                        Mara is playing now in sinag liga asya with mur alao and gelo vanguardia. If moves it'll prolly be either letran or ue. Both known landing spots for phenom boys. Also worth nothing he's also kampangan and former ue jr warrior. Sayang he wasnt able to build on his development. He has the hops and skills to be the next will gozum. Atleast one less headache for the team

                        Also not in the list are zenric jarque (injured foot) and justine sanchez (injury recovery)

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                        • Originally posted by gospursgo View Post

                          Mara is playing now in sinag liga asya with mur alao and gelo vanguardia. If moves it'll prolly be either letran or ue. Both known landing spots for phenom boys. Also worth nothing he's also kampangan and former ue jr warrior. Sayang he wasnt able to build on his development. He has the hops and skills to be the next will gozum. Atleast one less headache for the team

                          Also not in the list are zenric jarque (injured foot) and justine sanchez (injury recovery)
                          Yep 1 less headache, I notice he seems to be a hothead on the court.
                          Hope the injuries are minor. Jarque is injury prone e

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                          • Originally posted by spaxcundo View Post

                            Yep 1 less headache, I notice he seems to be a hothead on the court.
                            Hope the injuries are minor. Jarque is injury prone e
                            Jarque's in a walking boot. Might be ready in a month pa. Sanchez is already recovering.

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                            • is the serrano guy the same one with ceu who played in the dleague? he's still part of the filoil team.

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                              • Originally posted by DrainBamager605 View Post
                                is the serrano guy the same one with ceu who played in the dleague? he's still part of the filoil team.
                                Yep 1 and the same guy. I dont know whats his set up or "deal" with the CSB mngt?

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