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  • CSB arguably has the best lineup this season. So it must be the coaching’s fault. But yeah Mapua got an advantage coz of their finals experience.

    But seriously how come their turnovers is still not fixed up to this season? They have a good coaching staff. A lot of great coaches to handle that department. So they should fire the coach who’s supposed to fix it. Turnovers is very basic. It would definitely cost you games, what more a finals series? But definitely, Charles is to blame why up to now they are still not able to fix it with the guards that they have. It’s really puzzling! ​​​​​​​

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    • Originally posted by BroadyNZ View Post
      CSB arguably has the best lineup this season. So it must be the coaching’s fault. But yeah Mapua got an advantage coz of their finals experience.

      But seriously how come their turnovers is still not fixed up to this season? They have a good coaching staff. A lot of great coaches to handle that department. So they should fire the coach who’s supposed to fix it. Turnovers is very basic. It would definitely cost you games, what more a finals series? But definitely, Charles is to blame why up to now they are still not able to fix it with the guards that they have. It’s really puzzling!
      As much as i want to 100% fault charles tiu, when it comes to the turnovers, the blame is all on the players. Why? Because coaching staff doesnt exactly tell you to give the ball over right? Its the players on the court thats doing it, nothing the coach could do about it really. I mean its not as easy as telling everyone to stop committing it. No matter how many times they run the plays, if the players dont execute, i dont think its fair to blame it all on the coach. And its not an easy fix as you think, especially since the guys have gotten used to the system throughout the year

      On the other hand im not saying charles tiu is totally blameless. He could have done a better job with his rotations, defensive adjustments and how he prepared his guys for this finals series. Felt like benilde players had the finals jitters throughout the series, complete opposite to a very confident mapua side. And lastly credit to the mapua coaching staff for their defense. This should make benilde tweak things when it comes to their offense. I guess sometimes too much passing will hurt you. They need to find the right balance on iso and set plays. They have the guys naman to do it like sanchez, ynot, torres and eusebio. Even ancheta can score on the get go

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      • Hopefully Escamis can sign in kbl. Mapua is strong with the new recruits. Cuenco and cyril gonzales with mangubat and bancale with new recruits, mapua still for me is the favorites. Big men drex delos reyes and gulapa will be big help while nitura and manlapaz. Mapua is stocked next year.

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        • Originally posted by gospursgo View Post
          Good run by benilde this year but still not good enough. Maybe time to give the coaching reins to someone else, might be a mark jackson kind of situation where the warriors needed a change for them to get over the hump. The pieces are their, just need the right mix and blend.

          Biggest question now is if liwag will stay one more year. I have feeling that even if ynot said that he wanted to turn pro, this abysmal finals appearance may make him change his mind. Assuming everyone else not graduating returns, this revenge team should still be solid for season 101
          Both Liwag & Ynot can do a Javillonar right? Apply for the PBA draft but stay for one more year?

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          • Originally posted by DlsuGleagueAffiliate View Post
            No way any of the csb transferees leave after this season. Too big of an unfinished business for them, especially for guys like liwag and ynot. So even if ynot stated earlier that he'll prolly turn pro, now that he lost, he'll more than like stay on to atleast win one for his collegiate career.

            Anyways another year, another disappointment. Season 98 was so close, season 99 with all the returning core was a big let down and with the season 100 lineup which was probably the best benilde team ever assembled, to again just get swept. Hayy one can only hope they would also end the drought next year. Imo this years team had every chance to win it all, heck they could have even swept the season if they really put in the work, but alas it was really mapua's year and kudos to them for winning it all. They did their homework against us and ive got nothing but praise and respect to that team. No excuses, csb flat out choked again with turnovers being the big culprit. It was really dumbounding to see how awful they were in taking care of the ball considering they have 4-5 quality guards that can handle the ball. The turnovernitis they had in season 99 was understandable given the lack of guard depth last year, but this supposed was supposed to be them improving. Imo for a team that supposedly have all the chemistry in thr world, they looked flat in the finals. Looked like they didnt wanna win. Anyways fortunately for them, they only have 2 graduating seniors, and i expect most of the core to come back next year so this is my way too early lineup for season 101 as it stands:

            Ancheta
            Ynot (graduating)
            Jarque
            Sanchez
            Liwag

            Cometa (graduating)
            Torres
            Celis*
            Eusebio
            Serrano

            Cajucom
            Carillo
            Ondoa
            Gaspay*
            Umali*

            Jucom*
            Moore*
            Gonzaga*

            Demoted to team b
            Galas
            Arciaga
            Morales

            Team b hopefuls:
            Victoria
            Daja
            Jalalon
            Vanguardia
            Baliquig

            Departures: Sangco, Turco, Oli(still has 1 year left, but his spot easily be replaced by guys from team b)
            What about James Nacua? He is still in CSB right?

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            • Originally posted by spaxcundo View Post

              Both Liwag & Ynot can do a Javillonar right? Apply for the PBA draft but stay for one more year?
              Ynot yes, liwag no. If im not mistaken liwag has 2 more years after this season. Ynot will be in his last due to his age

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              • Originally posted by spaxcundo View Post

                What about James Nacua? He is still in CSB right?
                He's back home in australia at the moment, told the team he will return by next semester last time they talked.

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                • Originally posted by gospursgo View Post

                  As much as i want to 100% fault charles tiu, when it comes to the turnovers, the blame is all on the players. Why? Because coaching staff doesnt exactly tell you to give the ball over right? Its the players on the court thats doing it, nothing the coach could do about it really. I mean its not as easy as telling everyone to stop committing it. No matter how many times they run the plays, if the players dont execute, i dont think its fair to blame it all on the coach. And its not an easy fix as you think, especially since the guys have gotten used to the system throughout the year

                  On the other hand im not saying charles tiu is totally blameless. He could have done a better job with his rotations, defensive adjustments and how he prepared his guys for this finals series. Felt like benilde players had the finals jitters throughout the series, complete opposite to a very confident mapua side. And lastly credit to the mapua coaching staff for their defense. This should make benilde tweak things when it comes to their offense. I guess sometimes too much passing will hurt you. They need to find the right balance on iso and set plays. They have the guys naman to do it like sanchez, ynot, torres and eusebio. Even ancheta can score on the get go
                  I get your point. BTW I’m not saying it’s Charles’ 100% fault. That’s why I said they should fire the coach who’s handling that department. What I’m saying is it’s partly Charles’ fault coz he’s supposed to oversee everything even though he has delegates in each department.

                  If you will look at other teams who are averaging only 10 turnovers and below, obviously they are running a system to make sure that they maintain that average. So each team for sure employs a system to look at that department. It’s just that CSB’s turnover average is way above those teams who are averaging 10 and below. And it has been their problem since last season and they have great guards who has good ball handling skills. Makes someone wonder why is it still their problem up to now? So for me, the coaches must be overlooking it or they’re not doing enough about it. I just think that if they made a better job on handling their turnovers, they could at least extend the series to game 3.

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                  • Originally posted by BroadyNZ View Post

                    I get your point. BTW I’m not saying it’s Charles’ 100% fault. That’s why I said they should fire the coach who’s handling that department. What I’m saying is it’s partly Charles’ fault coz he’s supposed to oversee everything even though he has delegates in each department.

                    If you will look at other teams who are averaging only 10 turnovers and below, obviously they are running a system to make sure that they maintain that average. So each team for sure employs a system to look at that department. It’s just that CSB’s turnover average is way above those teams who are averaging 10 and below. And it has been their problem since last season and they have great guards who has good ball handling skills. Makes someone wonder why is it still their problem up to now? So for me, the coaches must be overlooking it or they’re not doing enough about it. I just think that if they made a better job on handling their turnovers, they could at least extend the series to game 3.
                    Its a pitfall of the system they're running. And if you notice, they really rely on it even if their opponents have already scouted them. The system who's architect was rajko toroman. So they cant really fire him. Again if its a turnover problem, pretty hard to pinpoint which coach is to blame since its a problem with the player's execution. I mean look at it this way, no matter how much prep and repitition they do, if the players keep on messing up on the floor, nothing really the coaches can do. What they can and should do is to tweak the system in the offseason. They can approach it in 2 ways, make the plays more intricate to avoid opposing teams in reading the passing lanes easily or make it lil bit simpler with more iso finishes. Anyways no team averaged below 10 to's in the season, the teams averaged 12-17 a game and benilde actually manages to improve on it in the 2nd rd. I guess mapua's defense just did a solid job against benilde that they force them to commit back to back 20+ to's

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                    • Cardinals’ Current Team B players serving residency, ready to play for S101:
                      Back 2 Back!

                      1. Cyril Gonzales, 5’11, G,
                      Returnee, from UP Maroons

                      2. Ivan Lazarte, G/F, 6’2”
                      Former Red Robin, from UST

                      3. Cyrus Nitura G/F 6’4”
                      from Perpetual

                      4. Joe Gulapa C 6’7”
                      from NU Bulldogs

                      5. Drex Delos Reyes C 6’8”
                      from NU Bulldogs

                      6. Andrei Macaranas G 6’0”
                      from FDU-Floram (USA)

                      7. Jamir Eligado F 6’3”
                      from CEU

                      8. AP Manlapaz F 6’4”
                      from Adamson/EAC

                      9. Kendall Valentin G 6’2”
                      from UST​

                      10. Mark Anagbogu G/F 6’2”
                      from CEU

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                      • Originally posted by Jowax08 View Post
                        Cardinals’ Current Team B players serving residency, ready to play for S101:
                        Back 2 Back!

                        1. Cyril Gonzales, 5’11, G,
                        Returnee, from UP Maroons

                        2. Ivan Lazarte, G/F, 6’2”
                        Former Red Robin, from UST

                        3. Cyrus Nitura G/F 6’4”
                        from Perpetual

                        4. Joe Gulapa C 6’7”
                        from NU Bulldogs

                        5. Drex Delos Reyes C 6’8”
                        from NU Bulldogs

                        6. Andrei Macaranas G 6’0”
                        from FDU-Floram (USA)

                        7. Jamir Eligado F 6’3”
                        from CEU

                        8. AP Manlapaz F 6’4”
                        from Adamson/EAC

                        9. Kendall Valentin G 6’2”
                        from UST​

                        10. Mark Anagbogu G/F 6’2”
                        from CEU
                        Which players are they dislodging from Team A? Aside from Joaqui and Aaron.

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                        • Originally posted by Jowax08 View Post
                          Cardinals’ Current Team B players serving residency, ready to play for S101:
                          Back 2 Back!

                          1. Cyril Gonzales, 5’11, G,
                          Returnee, from UP Maroons

                          2. Ivan Lazarte, G/F, 6’2”
                          Former Red Robin, from UST

                          3. Cyrus Nitura G/F 6’4”
                          from Perpetual

                          4. Joe Gulapa C 6’7”
                          from NU Bulldogs

                          5. Drex Delos Reyes C 6’8”
                          from NU Bulldogs

                          6. Andrei Macaranas G 6’0”
                          from FDU-Floram (USA)

                          7. Jamir Eligado F 6’3”
                          from CEU

                          8. AP Manlapaz F 6’4”
                          from Adamson/EAC

                          9. Kendall Valentin G 6’2”
                          from UST​

                          10. Mark Anagbogu G/F 6’2”
                          from CEU
                          Who will stay and leave? These new recruits are capable of cracking the line up next year.

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                          • Originally posted by BadEnglish View Post

                            Which players are they dislodging from Team A? Aside from Joaqui and Aaron.
                            The mapuans here said that fornis and pabilona are already gone, and from what i saw from them this year, they could demote reyno, pantaleon, agemenyi and abdullah. Rest of the guys have been part of the regular rotation. Add graduating guys fermin and garcia, thats 8 free spots already

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                            • Originally posted by gospursgo View Post

                              The mapuans here said that fornis and pabilona are already gone, and from what i saw from them this year, they could demote reyno, pantaleon, agemenyi and abdullah. Rest of the guys have been part of the regular rotation. Add graduating guys fermin and garcia, thats 8 free spots already
                              also don't count out an underclassmen from leaving early. nevertheless, those coming in should more than make up for the looming exits.

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                              • Originally posted by dubidub View Post

                                also don't count out an underclassmen from leaving early. nevertheless, those coming in should more than make up for the looming exits.
                                Actually didnt even include escamis here, and im in one of those who believes he's gonna turn pro early. So that makes it 9 spots.

                                Tho imo they have the best incoming class since it has good balance. All positions were addressed accordingly. Gonzales for your guards, Nitura, manlapaz and lazarte for your wings and delos reyes and gulapa as your bigs, thats already a solid rotation in itself, add to that cuenco, recto, hubilla, mangubat, and concepcion and thats a deep lineup already, might be the deepest in season 101.

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