UAAP season 87

[Sikatrix]

Yes, as I said I was there last Saturday (Upper Box was almost empty). And I can also tell you that back then, an overwhelming majority of them were wearing blue (I'd say around 70-30 split easily). I'm not invalidating your point, but to say that Ateneo fans abandoned the team now, while DLSU fans in the down years did not, is being quite selective. At the end of the day, not all fans are made equal. Some are diehards, some just go to the games when the team is winning, some go with their families for quality time etc. In any team sporting event (for entertainment), you can be sure that winning correlates to having more fans.

UP is the biggest example of winning=fans. Im sure some of them are hardcore but Id guess a lot are acting as if they are hardcore when they were missing during those cellar years. And can we really blame them for not attending? A lot of the "star" players werent even PBA quality and youd spend your precious time on a loss. Sure its fair to call them out on hypocrisy but its hard to judge what happens if the shoe on the other foot.

[Money]

Wow. Imagine if that didnt happen then that would mean NU would have had Nash, Carl, Terrence, and KQ.

NU is extremely underrated in terms of building grassroots program. This is the same school that formed Belen, Solomon and co from Jrs to Srs.

He even has Jojo Antiporda. Jason Celis and EJ Agbong who all transferred to Chiang Kai Shek.

He also recruited Migz Oczon, RJ Minerva, Jonas Tibayan, Shannon and Seven Gagate, John Galinato.

so talk about pipeline of recruits.

[gospursgo]

He even has Jojo Antiporda. Jason Celis and EJ Agbong who all transferred to Chiang Kai Shek.

He also recruited Migz Oczon, RJ Minerva, Jonas Tibayan, Shannon and Seven Gagate, John Galinato.

so talk about pipeline of recruits.

Boy was that adamson baby falcons team loaded. Besides the aformentioned names already they also had future baste mainstays alex desoyo and jessie sumoda, steven flores who had a stint with perpetual and allan beltran who played for ue. Even their pasarelle team had future uaap/ncaa talent: nicole quinal (eac), jeff mailim (letran/arellano) and a young aaron buensalida (dlsu/letran).

[Crustacean]

Coach Gold had a loaded Adamson Juniors team back then. Take a look at this team, and see if you can count how many went on to play college ball -


That season, Adamson was running roughshod over the competition in the UAAP. But someone from an opposing team found out about questionable credentials of one of ADU's star players, and reported it to the board. He was deemed ineligible and all of ADU's wins were deemed forfeited. IIRC, that someone from an opposing team was then-NU Bullpups Head Coach Jeff Napa and the star player was former DLSU player Encho Serrano. Fast forward to that very offseason, ADU let go of Coach Gold because of the scandal, and NU proceeds to pick him up for their juniors team. Ironically, Jeff Napa "lost" his head coach position because he reported his eventual replacement. Coach Gold's players who still had eligibility transferred to NU with him (Padrigao transferred to , those who didn't have transferred to Coach Gold's other team, Chiang Kai Shek.

You can feel these players’ loyalty is to Goldwyn and not really the school they play for. Goes both ways since Goldwyn also favors his “boys” (see last year’s Game 3 where he inexplicably chose to go with Felicilda and Abadiano over Cagulangan and Cansino).

Will be interesting to see how UP team will look like once his NU boys start leaving.

[Tuck]

With all that said, the hardest thing for DLSU—or any team, for that matter—to find is a player as dominant as Mike Phillips.

Amos is a mythical level 5 type of talent, but he doesn’t impact the game like Mike. No one does except for QMB. Not only can Mike fill up the stat sheet, but he also boosts the team’s morale with his energy. Watching him play with such intensity in limited minutes against Ateneo shows that when the game slows down and others start to play haphazardly, he’ll still be going at 100% and outworking everyone on the floor.

Calling it now: Mike is bound to capture a MVP next year.

he has the talent to win but he right now can only play one position . They tried to get away with him playing some 4 but it’s been mostly mehh. They are gonna try to use Raven, Henry and the new guys more next year. He might not have the minutes to win it because Raven is too slow to defend any other position and has no range. Aguanne and Sarmiento . His best bet is Pablo but he can’t really shoot . Amos should be fine as a 4 but in admu he was used more times as 5

[Sikatrix]

Veejay Pre has overtaken Jared Bahay for RoY but its close

https://x.com/TakeAimLS/status/1850885607385682383?t=LnyHFVQVC3IDX5ekaewiBQ&s=19

[cha34]

I was watching Team B earlier.

Dom has a smooth shooting stroke but thats yet to translate to made threes. He made a short jumper and a high post jumper and missed his 3s. Dom is also a defensive liability cos he fouls a lot- often out of position and off timing when helping on drivers. I like that he has the willingness and awareness to help and length to potentially bother though. But he desperately needs game time reps and strength to make an impact.

Kean had a triple double but POG award was given to Jacob who top scored. That's gonna be a deadly backcourt next year.

Amos had a bounce back game and his touch is money. He's way thinner nowadays.

Pablo's touch just isn't there. I am not sure if he is ever to translate the same success he had in the Jrs against the higher competition. But he can rebound and start the break.

Some notable players that I didn't know was part of team B: John Adrian Te, & Andrei Santos

[Crustacean]

I was watching Team B earlier.

Dom has a smooth shooting stroke but thats yet to translate to made threes. He made a short jumper and a high post jumper and missed his 3s. Dom is also a defensive liability cos he fouls a lot- often out of position and off timing when helping on drivers. I like that he has the willingness and awareness to help and length to potentially bother though. But he desperately needs game time reps and strength to make an impact.

Kean had a triple double but POG award was given to Jacob who top scored. That's gonna be a deadly backcourt next year.

Amos had a bounce back game and his touch is money. He's way thinner nowadays.

Pablo's touch just isn't there. I am not sure if he is ever to translate the same success he had in the Jrs against the higher competition. But he can rebound and start the break.

Some notable players that I didn't know was part of team B: John Adrian Te, & Andrei Santos

Watched that same game against CEU.

I'll compare Sarmiento to Raven Gonzales, and that is probably his ceiling too. He is just too lanky to defend bigger FSAs (just like Raven), but he does have a promising shooting touch. If Raven is still with DLSU in Season 88 (I think he is close to graduating from college), then Sarmiento could be the replacement. Otherwise even if he is lined up in Season 88, he will barely get minutes.

Baclaan and Cortez, nothing new to say. They're good and will more than make-up for the Remogat (with Gemao?) UP backcourt in Season 88. I prefer Cortez personally as he tends to be more mature in decision making.

Amos still needs to improve his defense. Otherwise, nothing new to note either.

I actually liked Buenaventura's game more than Ogana's.

Pablo I agree is the one who seems to not have a role yet. If he can make himself be useful ala Belmonte or Torculas of UP, then that will be enough. He just won't be the main man on any team (not just DLSU) given his skills right now.

[GameChanger0704]

Add UST to Emman Galman's campus tour. If it pushes through, how many playing years does he have left?

[DrainBamager605]

pre vs bahay race is tight AF. there's a chance that their round 2 match will be a non-bearing game, if that's the case I hope they let the top 4 rookies play loose lol.

[cha34]

Watched that same game against CEU.

I'll compare Sarmiento to Raven Gonzales, and that is probably his ceiling too. He is just too lanky to defend bigger FSAs (just like Raven), but he does have a promising shooting touch. If Raven is still with DLSU in Season 88 (I think he is close to graduating from college), then Sarmiento could be the replacement. Otherwise even if he is lined up in Season 88, he will barely get minutes.

Baclaan and Cortez, nothing new to say. They're good and will more than make-up for the Remogat (with Gemao?) UP backcourt in Season 88. I prefer Cortez personally as he tends to be more mature in decision making.

Amos still needs to improve his defense. Otherwise, nothing new to note either.

I actually liked Buenaventura's game more than Ogana's.

Pablo I agree is the one who seems to not have a role yet. If he can make himself be useful ala Belmonte or Torculas of UP, then that will be enough. He just won't be the main man on any team (not just DLSU) given his skills right now.

You know my first instinct was to liken Dom to Raven but the more I think about it: the similarities end at theyre both tall and lanky. Raven's got great shot blocking skills and while his touch is there, he's more of a push shot / floaters type of guy than jumpshot type of guy. He can hit 3s but he doesn't take a lot of them.

While Dom is still trying to figure out the defensive schemes and positioning he is nowhere near the shot blocker that Raven was coming out of HS. CEU guards kept coming at him at the rim. lol

Right now, Dom is all upside but the production is simply not there yet.

Ogana had an off night. His last game he had like 20. JB is solid. A lefty that knows how to play. With added confidence and a jumpshot, he'll be good. It's hard to say he'll play like this against UAAP Srs but if he does, I already like him way better than Rubico, who's just a pain to see.

[OverratedTabBaldwin]

It's pretty crazy to think that you need an import-level FSA to at least contend for a chip in today's UAAP whereas just 20 years ago, a player of the caliber of Sam Ekwe will make your team almost unbeatable. I know Ekwe played for Beda but UAAP teams back them struggled to contain him when UAAP and NCAA teams played each other.

To contend in today's UAAP, a team needs at least one Asian import-level local (KQ, Tamayo, Belangel, etc.) and one import level FSA (Kouame, Diouf, etc). A tall but unskilled African FSA won't cut it anymore.

[Crustacean]

It's pretty crazy to think that you need an import-level FSA to at least contend for a chip in today's UAAP whereas just 20 years ago, a player of the caliber of Sam Ekwe will make your team almost unbeatable. I know Ekwe played for Beda but UAAP teams back them struggled to contain him when UAAP and NCAA teams played each other.

To contend in today's UAAP, a team needs at least one Asian import-level local (KQ, Tamayo, Belangel, etc.) and one import level FSA (Kouame, Diouf, etc). A tall but unskilled African FSA won't cut it anymore.

Do you mean one import-level local OR one import level FSA?

Because last year, DLSU won the whole thing with a below average FSA. And if either DLSU or UP win this year, both those teams have FSAs who are not dominant either.

[Sikatrix]

It's pretty crazy to think that you need an import-level FSA to at least contend for a chip in today's UAAP whereas just 20 years ago, a player of the caliber of Sam Ekwe will make your team almost unbeatable. I know Ekwe played for Beda but UAAP teams back them struggled to contain him when UAAP and NCAA teams played each other.

To contend in today's UAAP, a team needs at least one Asian import-level local (KQ, Tamayo, Belangel, etc.) and one import level FSA (Kouame, Diouf, etc). A tall but unskilled African FSA won't cut it anymore.

Wrong season to make this argument considering UP and DLU's FSAs.

[cha34]

pre vs bahay race is tight AF. there's a chance that their round 2 match will be a non-bearing game, if that's the case I hope they let the top 4 rookies play loose lol.

I got my money on Pre to win it and I love Jared.

One main reason: Pre just earned Sean's trust to green light and with his talent, he'll take and make more shots. Contrast that to Bahay, who is steadily improving, has been the main guy since the start but has yet to produce consistently.

Add that there's lots of threats for FEU (none outside of Tuano for Ateneo) and defenses will just load up on Bahay.