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  • Originally posted by cha34 View Post

    I didnt know that UP pulled that little gimmick of employing your enemies lmao. It's an old Hollywood trick.
    Cant bite the hand that feeds

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    • With the amount of annoying fans UP has, I'm starting to miss Ateneo.

      They love to perform mental gymnastics to justify their BS, and love to position themselves to be the victim, an underdog and when they win, they don't exhibit any grace either.

      They're a smarter version of Ginebera fans.

      I've seen Ateneans stand and cheer for the Archers even after a loss.

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      • Feels like a bitter rivalry you love to see it. The fans hate each other during the games and it isnt really anything more or dirtier than that. Both team’s players also play harder with this.

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        • but topex probably did it. Reylan Torres probably isnt thinking about making up spitting while they are on a run. He was probably trolling Topex then he spat on him something hes very capable of doing. Pba guys know Topex aint a saint off the court too with his activities

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          • Originally posted by cha34 View Post
            With the amount of annoying fans UP has, I'm starting to miss Ateneo.

            They love to perform mental gymnastics to justify their BS, and love to position themselves to be the victim, an underdog and when they win, they don't exhibit any grace either.

            They're a smarter version of Ginebera fans.

            I've seen Ateneans stand and cheer for the Archers even after a loss.
            The thing with the Ateneo-La Salle rivalry from years past, I felt the players were still playing for the school and for school pride. Most UP and DLSU players these days feel like mercenaries. It’s not as fun.

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            • Originally posted by Tuck View Post
              but topex probably did it. Reylan Torres probably isnt thinking about making up spitting while they are on a run. He was probably trolling Topex then he spat on him something hes very capable of doing. Pba guys know Topex aint a saint off the court too with his activities
              Until I see hardcore evidence, it's nothing more than a accusation.

              onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat.

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              • Originally posted by Crustacean View Post

                The thing with the Ateneo-La Salle rivalry from years past, I felt the players were still playing for the school and for school pride. Most UP and DLSU players these days feel like mercenaries. It’s not as fun.
                it def felt like that for the admu players they hated ls and mbala. They played against them their whole career.

                Nieto’s, Assitio, Ravena, Babilonia, Tio, Go, andrade, Ildefonso their old core grew up playing against them.

                The new DLSU guys have a bit more ls players on the team but they arent that home grown as the admu ones.
                Alian, David, Macalalag,Gonzales, then baclaan , pablo and cortez next year .

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                • Originally posted by cha34 View Post
                  With the amount of annoying fans UP has, I'm starting to miss Ateneo.

                  They love to perform mental gymnastics to justify their BS, and love to position themselves to be the victim, an underdog and when they win, they don't exhibit any grace either.

                  They're a smarter version of Ginebera fans.

                  I've seen Ateneans stand and cheer for the Archers even after a loss.
                  The last time they were this bad was like 26 years ago and we literally called them taeneo because they were shit and owe their relevance to Jamike Jarin and his dominant Ateneo high school teams from '98 onward and when the San Beda boys starting from Membrere got recruited after all this bullshit they their players are "students first" and pointed to the Paul Tanchi's and the Chris Tiu's when they got at least five other degenerates every year. They made the Final Four in '99 and were convinced they'd be a dynasty. Since then, they've been annoying af just like how UST thought La Salle supporters were over the top with those "tuition niyo, baon namin" signs against UE, FEU, Adamson, and NU.

                  For that matter, majority of Ateneans didn't even know or at least refuse to acknowledge there is an Ateneo de Cebu (they've been known an Scared Heart Jesuit School, seperate schools for boys and girls) before Jared Bahay.

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                  • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                    The last time they were this bad was like 26 years ago and we literally called them taeneo because they were shit and owe their relevance to Jamike Jarin and his dominant Ateneo high school teams from '98 onward and when the San Beda boys starting from Membrere got recruited after all this bullshit they their players are "students first" and pointed to the Paul Tanchi's and the Chris Tiu's when they got at least five other degenerates every year. They made the Final Four in '99 and were convinced they'd be a dynasty. Since then, they've been annoying af just like how UST thought La Salle supporters were over the top with those "tuition niyo, baon namin" signs against UE, FEU, Adamson, and NU.

                    For that matter, majority of Ateneans didn't even know or at least refuse to acknowledge there is an Ateneo de Cebu (they've been known an Scared Heart Jesuit School, seperate schools for boys and girls) before Jared Bahay.
                    Actually hurt them in 2003 when RJ Rizada helped beat them with FEU but they didnt change things til now.

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                    • Originally posted by ja.he View Post

                      Do you think it's a good idea to deploy two additional referees that will serve as guards on both benches to prevent any types of commotion or altercation from happening?
                      That could work, but if the Amores v CSB is any indication, a determined guy is hard to stop.

                      For me prevention of escalation is key. It's inevitable in intense games for emotions to run high. It's on the refs and coaches to not let it go overboard. One time I saw a coach get taunted by opposing players, his players on the bench taunted back and he got mad at his own players for doing that.

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                      • Originally posted by cha34 View Post
                        With the amount of annoying fans UP has, I'm starting to miss Ateneo.

                        They love to perform mental gymnastics to justify their BS, and love to position themselves to be the victim, an underdog and when they win, they don't exhibit any grace either.

                        They're a smarter version of Ginebera fans.

                        I've seen Ateneans stand and cheer for the Archers even after a loss.
                        I think any team in any sport would have die-hard fanbases and that's just the nature of sports as a whole. In the Philippines, it's probably more magnified on social media since socmed is very prevalent in our country but thankfully we haven't reached a point where fanbases are physically confronting the players. Recent example would be the Dodgers-Padres Game 2 matchup where fans started throwing stuff at the players on the field.

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                        • The UAAP is basically a pro league with an age limit

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                          • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                            That could work, but if the Amores v CSB is any indication, a determined guy is hard to stop.

                            For me prevention of escalation is key. It's inevitable in intense games for emotions to run high. It's on the refs and coaches to not let it go overboard. One time I saw a coach get taunted by opposing players, his players on the bench taunted back and he got mad at his own players for doing that.
                            Imo its on the refs as well. They shouldnt let those guys taunt or whatever, its also their responsibility remind everyone on the court to leave out the antics. Shouldnt be shy giving out techs if its warranted, especially if they want to keep the control of the game.

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                            • Originally posted by maroonforlife View Post

                              I think any team in any sport would have die-hard fanbases and that's just the nature of sports as a whole. In the Philippines, it's probably more magnified on social media since socmed is very prevalent in our country but thankfully we haven't reached a point where fanbases are physically confronting the players. Recent example would be the Dodgers-Padres Game 2 matchup where fans started throwing stuff at the players on the field.
                              While that is true, I am talking about how UP fans are in general. You see it all over social media. The funny thing is these "fans" weren't there when the team wasn't good. If you ask them about basketball, they probably only the "sikat" players and nothing else. I feel bad for the real UP fans that stuck with them even before Gov Remulla funding. Those guys were just happy to support them regardless of the outcome.

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                              • Originally posted by Metta View Post

                                That could work, but if the Amores v CSB is any indication, a determined guy is hard to stop.

                                For me prevention of escalation is key. It's inevitable in intense games for emotions to run high. It's on the refs and coaches to not let it go overboard. One time I saw a coach get taunted by opposing players, his players on the bench taunted back and he got mad at his own players for doing that.
                                Venue security is another factor. I doubt Amores would've pulled off his punch-a-thon against CSB under the watchful eyes of the Batista-esque bouncers of Araneta Coliseum.

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