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  • #121
    Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

    Not all players are like Mikey Williams na talagang mukhang pera.

    Maybe he's just too loyal to his employer who had been paying handsomely and he's home to spend some of that money with family,so he got irritated when they asked him and gave them the price that they can't give.There's no sour grapes Long Hair and CTC is determined to take him away from MVP and have him play in their premier SMC teams.

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    • #122
      I just wonder how much did Standhardinger ask from SBP during those times he played for Gilas? Marami-rami na rin yatang beses si Standhardinger naglaro sa Gilas.
      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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      • #123
        Originally posted by Rds View Post

        The thing is many Filfors dont actually have strong connections to the Philippines. Let's face it, they are only going here because of the money. Why would they play for the country without any compensation? The eligible Filfors at least have the incentive of qualifying for the B league. For the ineligibles however and particularly those without strong connections to the country, I can just imagine playing for the country without any compensation is not attractive to them.
        How about the Fil-Fors in the UAAP and NCAA?
        Last edited by ja.he; 10-15-2023, 11:37 PM.
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        • #124
          Originally posted by ja.he View Post

          How the Fil-Fors in the UAAP and NCAA?
          I think the PBA rule before did not affect the student athletes as much. It migh have been intentional to encourage Filfors, to go the school route. I dont know their motivations but the way say the Philipps brothers learned Tagalog and used them interviews speaks a lot on how they value connecting with their fans. They have built connections here. The one and dones or 2 and dones probably had thr PBA in mind. They however have built a relationship with fans and their schools in their short stay in college. Also, unlike a Mikey Williams, these guys havent proven anything yet. No matter how good they are in college, they have to pay their dues.

          There is a risk of getting D league level Filfors as NPs. Those guys can go to Europe. So unless they really have strong ties here I dont think they will embrace representing the country in minor tourneys.

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          • #125
            Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
            With impending suspension of Justin Brownlee, who would be our naturalized player in the 1st window in February 2024? Would Kouame be available?

            I think if Kouame won't be available, we could tap Standhardinger as our NP in February. Yes I know Standhardinger has already retired from national team service after the 2023 SEA Games but I think if Long Hair ask him to heed another call of national team duty, most likely Standhardinger is not going to turn down Long Hair's request.
            I think Ange might be available. However, his team end their first phase on Feb. 16 (Feb 17 Philippine time). Realistically, I think he only has 3 days of practice time, since the first game against Hong Kong would be on the 22nd, and he might have to come straight from Chartres.

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            • #126
              ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

              I don't know if PBA players wud be made available during the February window, but if PBA players won't be available, I think we can still form a solid team composed mostly of B-league plus Kouame & Abando & perhaps a few college standouts.

              B-league players would be Kai, AJ Edu, Carl Tamayo, Dwight Ramos, Thirdy & Kiefer Ravena, RJ Abarrientos & maybe Rayray Parks.

              College players could be Mason Amos, Kevin Quiambao, Francis Lopez, CJ Cansino.
              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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              • #127
                Originally posted by IPC View Post

                I think Ange might be available. However, his team end their first phase on Feb. 16 (Feb 17 Philippine time). Realistically, I think he only has 3 days of practice time, since the first game against Hong Kong would be on the 22nd, and he might have to come straight from Chartres.
                It's OK, Since he knows his teammates well, and the first game of Gilas is against Hong Kong, that even U18 Of Gilas can beat HK w/o a sweat.. They can treat HK a tune up game for their match up against much stronger Taiwan team...

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                • #128
                  It would be nice to see the trio of Kai,Ange and AJ on the paint on the same time.I hope Balti plays this time,with the fast improving Tamayo in there too Gilas has 5 bigs in the lineup who are 6'8 and above in a long while.

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                  • #129
                    Makes me wished that Kamaka Hepa didn't made it to the Zastal Zielona lineup and went to PBA instead,he's another guy they can make an exemption in the future.

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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
                      It would be nice to see the trio of Kai,Ange and AJ on the paint on the same time.I hope Balti plays this time,with the fast improving Tamayo in there too Gilas has 5 bigs in the lineup who are 6'8 and above in a long while.
                      Kai, Edu, Kouame, Baltazar & Tamayo frontline is definitely the tallest, the most flexible & most versatile frontcourt Philippine basketball ever had in history.

                      And these 5 players have 1 thing in common, none of them is playing in the PBA.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • #131
                        Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                        Kai, Edu, Kouame, Baltazar & Tamayo frontline is definitely the tallest, the most flexible & most versatile frontcourt Philippine basketball ever had in history.

                        And these 5 players have 1 thing in common, none of them is playing in the PBA.
                        incredibly versatile on both ends, and not cones on defense (for the most part)

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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                          Kai, Edu, Kouame, Baltazar & Tamayo frontline is definitely the tallest, the most flexible & most versatile frontcourt Philippine basketball ever had in history.

                          And these 5 players have 1 thing in common, none of them is playing in the PBA.
                          Like what Magic and Bird always say, they wouldn't be as good as they are if they didn't constantly play against each other.

                          These very tall players need to play against talented guys their size (or bigger) to maximize their potential. It will be interesting to see Balti's progression if he continues what he's doing.

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                          • #133
                            From the way he played for Gilas in the pocket tournament in China last August & the World Cup, as well as with the way he's playing in the B-league right now, I really didn't expect AJ Edu to be this good, especially in offense. It seems hindi nawala yung offensive skills nya as well as his confidence with his scoring capabilities after all those knee injuries he sustained as well as despite being relegated into a mere role playing big man at Toledo University.
                            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                            • #134
                              I think by Asian basketball standards, AJ Edu is quick & mobile enough to play as a 4 offensively & defensively.

                              At 6-foot-10, he's a tall "four" by Asian basketball standards.
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • #135
                                Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                                Kai, Edu, Kouame, Baltazar & Tamayo frontline is definitely the tallest, the most flexible & most versatile frontcourt Philippine basketball ever had in history.

                                And these 5 players have 1 thing in common, none of them is playing in the PBA.
                                I totally agree with you but the outlier in that group is Baltazar. As of now he is in a even more inferior envrionment in the MPBL, he only has to contend with 6'4" to 6'5" flat footed guys guarding him and no one can really challenge him. I think he is the closest player to an AJ Edu among our homegrowns but he is picking up bad habits playing in the MPBL
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