FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

[Rodbi]

Chinese Taipei hired an Italian coach Gianluca Tucci for this upcoming FIBA Asia cup

https://twitter.com/Superbasket_it/s...16337885888623

What's his coaching style? Are we about to see a Chinese-Taipei team that plays similarly to how KNT does, with the crisp passing and constant ball screens to free up shooters?

[C2Hamm]

Guys, do U think our team in the 1st window would be better than the 2023 Asian Games gold medalist Gilas squad? Hard to tell, right? We have Brownlee, Junmar, Oftana, Perez, Newsome, Iskati as holdovers from the Asian Games team. Then you got Kai, Tamayo, Dwight R, Quiambao & Malonzo as players who weren't in the Asian Games team. While the Asian Games holdovers will carry over the chemistry & cohesion they have achieved playing in the Asiad, the entry of new players - Kai, Tamayo, Oftana, Dwight & Quiambao, could somewhat stir the team's established cohesion & chemistry from the Asiad, especially since the team will only have about 7 days of training before its 1st game.

Good thing, its just Hongkong & Taiwan whom we will be facing in the 1st window. I'm confident we'll easily beat Hongkong, but I think we can't overlook Taiwan. I feel Taiwan won't be an easy opponent for us.

it doesnt have to be better compared to the WC. it just needs to be better than HK and Taiwan. i'll take CTC word to the T until we see something different from what he is saying. and his current stance is each game they play, should be used to make them better for the next game. so comparing it to WC would be making a wrong assumption. lets look at it as a new team and each game as a pickup\practice game, to be better for the next game. I dont know if we have games in between the 1st window and the OQT though.

[JAMSKIE]

it doesnt have to be better compared to the WC. it just needs to be better than HK and Taiwan. i'll take CTC word to the T until we see something different from what he is saying. and his current stance is each game they play, should be used to make them better for the next game. so comparing it to WC would be making a wrong assumption. lets look at it as a new team and each game as a pickup\practice game, to be better for the next game. I dont know if we have games in between the 1st window and the OQT though.

Sir, the comparison isn't the 2023 World Cup Gilas with the current Tim Cone-mentored Gilas. Its the 2023 Asian Games gold medalist Gilas team & the current Gilas bound for the 1st window of the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup qualifiers that I'm comparing. I prefer the latter than the former becoz Gilas Asian Games & current Gilas are/were both handled by Tim Cone while the World Cup Gilas was handled by coach Chot Reyes. Also, the World Cup Gilas had Clarkson as its naturalized player while the Asian Games Gilas & the current Gilas has Justine Brownlee as its naturalized player.

[Giannis34GOD]

What's his coaching style? Are we about to see a Chinese-Taipei team that plays similarly to how KNT does, with the crisp passing and constant ball screens to free up shooters?

It seems he doesn't have that good resume in his European stints... I checked his resume but not so impressive, Although maybe better option than Charlie Parker...

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianluca_Tucci

[Giannis34GOD]

it doesnt have to be better compared to the WC. it just needs to be better than HK and Taiwan. i'll take CTC word to the T until we see something different from what he is saying. and his current stance is each game they play, should be used to make them better for the next game. so comparing it to WC would be making a wrong assumption. lets look at it as a new team and each game as a pickup\practice game, to be better for the next game. I dont know if we have games in between the 1st window and the OQT though.

Comparing the line ups of last Asian Games and the current window:

Holdovers:

Brownlee
Fajardo
Oftana
Perez
Thompson
Newsome

Replaced:

Alas
Lassiter
Kouame
Ross
Tolentino
Aguilar

Newcomers:

Sotto
Edu
Ramos
Tamayo
Quiambao
Malonzo


Look at the players who replaced and the newcomers... Only Kouame is an impact guy but the rest were benched (only Alas has significant time last Asian games)... Sotto is upgrade over Japeth, Malonzo is upgrade over Tolentino, Ramos is way better than Alas, Quiambao and Tamayo is more upgrade than old Ross and Lassiter... Only Kouame is slightly advantage over Edu due to health, although if healthy, Edu can be better than Kouame... You know the answer who is better...

[paolylo]

Is anybody legitimately concerned about these FIBA Asia Cup Qualifiers? On paper and without the bullshit excuses SBP had before, I think Gilas will go 4-2 and secures the automatic slot for the FIBA Asia Cup on the 5th game (Feb 20 next year)

Although very unlikely, an upset loss to HK rips the entire program apart even before talking about how to proceed with the OQT in July. Heads will roll and that might include Tim Cone.

Losing to TPE at the Ultra is a possibility (they've done it before at MoA, also go back to when Kazakhstan came from behind), but we go by +/- and if worse comes to worst and are tied 3-3 with them after the last window next year... not the end of the world if they need to finish at least 4th agaisnt other 3rd-placers a few weeks before the FIBA Asia Cup, but that will be a scheduling nightmare with a busy 2025 that will have the first window of World Cup Qualifying.

[ja.he]

Is anybody legitimately concerned about these FIBA Asia Cup Qualifiers? On paper and without the bullshit excuses SBP had before, I think Gilas will go 4-2 and secures the automatic slot for the FIBA Asia Cup on the 5th game (Feb 20 next year)

Although very unlikely, an upset loss to HK rips the entire program apart even before talking about how to proceed with the OQT in July. Heads will roll and that might include Tim Cone.

Losing to TPE at the Ultra is a possibility (they've done it before at MoA, also go back to when Kazakhstan came from behind), but we go by +/- and if worse comes to worst and are tied 3-3 with them after the last window next year... not the end of the world if they need to finish at least 4th agaisnt other 3rd-placers a few weeks before the FIBA Asia Cup, but that will be a scheduling nightmare with a busy 2025 that will have the first window of World Cup Qualifying.

Yes, I have to agree - never underestimate Chinese-Taipei. They may no longer as good as they were in the 2000's to early 2010's but they are still decent, especially with Artino, Abasi and a couple of up-and-coming players.

[JAMSKIE]

It's not like Gilas is about 25 pts better than Chinese Taipei. I honestly believe we have the edge over CT, but not that much. And as they say, "bilog ang bola". If we catch the Taiwanese on their lucky night while we on the other hand would struggle in our offense, chances are CT will beat Gilas.

CT right now is on rebuilding but they have a No. Of promising young players like 6-foot-3 combo guard Benson Lin & 6-foot-2 talented wingman Mohammed Bashir Gadiaga a. k. a. "Abbasi". I think Abbasi can give a CJ Perez a run for his money at the 2-guard spot. Then as we all know, Taiwan always have good shooters playing the 2, 3 spots. It's in the big man spots, especially the center spot where Taiwan really struggles, that is why its 6-10 center William Artino that is the team's naturalized player & I think Artino fits the team very well.

[Giannis34GOD]

Is anybody legitimately concerned about these FIBA Asia Cup Qualifiers? On paper and without the bullshit excuses SBP had before, I think Gilas will go 4-2 and secures the automatic slot for the FIBA Asia Cup on the 5th game (Feb 20 next year)

Although very unlikely, an upset loss to HK rips the entire program apart even before talking about how to proceed with the OQT in July. Heads will roll and that might include Tim Cone.

Losing to TPE at the Ultra is a possibility (they've done it before at MoA, also go back to when Kazakhstan came from behind), but we go by +/- and if worse comes to worst and are tied 3-3 with them after the last window next year... not the end of the world if they need to finish at least 4th agaisnt other 3rd-placers a few weeks before the FIBA Asia Cup, but that will be a scheduling nightmare with a busy 2025 that will have the first window of World Cup Qualifying.

Taipei’s level are just on Guam’s full strength level… they just lucky to get that 4th place finish last asian games because of good draw… and this current version has the winning mentality that previous teams doesn’t have… JB has winning mentality mindset, CTC has winning mentality.. I know you have that concern but confidence are much higher right now… Abd please don’t tell we will lose to HK… actually HK is the weakest of all of 24 participating teams in the qualifiers…

[thatweirdguy]

Is anybody legitimately concerned about these FIBA Asia Cup Qualifiers? On paper and without the bullshit excuses SBP had before, I think Gilas will go 4-2 and secures the automatic slot for the FIBA Asia Cup on the 5th game (Feb 20 next year)

Although very unlikely, an upset loss to HK rips the entire program apart even before talking about how to proceed with the OQT in July. Heads will roll and that might include Tim Cone.

Losing to TPE at the Ultra is a possibility (they've done it before at MoA, also go back to when Kazakhstan came from behind), but we go by +/- and if worse comes to worst and are tied 3-3 with them after the last window next year... not the end of the world if they need to finish at least 4th agaisnt other 3rd-placers a few weeks before the FIBA Asia Cup, but that will be a scheduling nightmare with a busy 2025 that will have the first window of World Cup Qualifying.

Nope we should win over them with nil difficulty. Unless something horribly wrong happens. Heck some people even wants to send the younger guys against them.

[reamily]

A tim cone team losing to new zealand scrubs.. yes i say it..

[C2Hamm]

Sir, the comparison isn't the 2023 World Cup Gilas with the current Tim Cone-mentored Gilas. Its the 2023 Asian Games gold medalist Gilas team & the current Gilas bound for the 1st window of the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup qualifiers that I'm comparing. I prefer the latter than the former becoz Gilas Asian Games & current Gilas are/were both handled by Tim Cone while the World Cup Gilas was handled by coach Chot Reyes. Also, the World Cup Gilas had Clarkson as its naturalized player while the Asian Games Gilas & the current Gilas has Justine Brownlee as its naturalized player.

thanks for the correction, and I stand corrected. However, my personal opinion is still the same. And thank you for Robert for listing the names of the players. Although we can argue that the newcomers are collectively an upgrade to those they will be replacing, those being replaced are either players of CTC (Tolentino and Aguilar) or are very familiar with him and how he runs his plays (everyone else except Ange). so individually, sure, better. but since they are familiar with how CTC runs his plays, they are a better fit together. HK game should look more like a practice game where the players will learn CTC's system on the fly. The Taiwan game will be harder but I think our boys will still win even if they end up doing more mistakes then usually trying to play with each other. may silat from Taiwan, but not big enough threat unless majority dont play D which I doubt will happen. so if purely Asian games team vs 1st window team, the asian team won a gold. even if current team wins against HK or Taiwan, how are we to compare that?

[Metta]

Taiwan will be dangerous in about 3-5 years. Fortunately, they're still several years from that form.

[yogaflame]

I'm back since Fiba time again and I'm excited with CTC as a coach. Even the players are excited with CTC as the coach. But Kraken not 100% is worrying. We have Kai who had improve allot but we still need Fajardo since Edu is still recovering from MCL injury..Anyway, even without Fajardo, we are still big and talented with this type of 5: Tamayo, Quiambao, Brownee, Thompson and Kai.

[JAMSKIE]

Taiwan will be dangerous in about 3-5 years. Fortunately, they're still several years from that form.

Yeah. We better watch out for those Taiwanese-American Hinton brothers. They are 6-foot-4/6-foot-5 natural wings who are playing high school basketball in the US. I also saw two 6-foot-7 young Taiwanese players being trained as wings.

In 3 to 5 years time, these players are expected to be vital components of their national senior team.