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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD
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Come the 2025 FIBA Asia Cup tournament proper where all the other teams (except Gilas) will be well prepared & armed to the teeth, India most likely would be fed to the lions & become the worst performing team of the tournament."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV -
After beating a world rated team like Latvia, we thought we were almost invincible in Asian basketball. Then came our disastrous campaign in the 3rd window last month.Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
And we got out feet back to the ground.
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Post deleted"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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I wasn't able to watch the game but with Iraq losing to India by 20 pts, this seems to be a different Iraq team (I'm not talking about team composition here ha. I'm talking about competitive form) from the one that put up a close game versus Jordan just a month ago. I think Jordan won by just 6 pts. over Iraq last month.Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
This is why I think a team's competitive form may vary from a window qualifier to another or from a tournament to another, and such varying competitive form will decide the fate of a team..
Take the case of Gilas, which was in its worst competitive form in the recent 3rd window, we all know Gilas can play better than it did last month in that pocket tournament in Qatar & the window qualifying games versus Taiwan & New Zealand. People will say "wala kasi si Kai Sotto eh". While I acknowledge Kai's very significant value in Gilas, I think there was more to our struggle in the 3rd window & the pocket tourney in Qatar than just the absence of Kai Sotto.
Take the case of how Gilas played in last year's Olympic Qualifying Tournament, after beating mighty Latvia in our 1st game, we face another tough team in Georgia with some NBA players in its roster. We lost Kai to injury early in that game vs. Georgia, yet we almost beat Georgia in a close game. Then in our next game vs. Brazil (we didn't have Kai Sotto), we lost but hindi tayo natambakan. That's becoz Gilas was at its best competitive form during the Olympic Qualifying Tournament.
So nagkakatalo talaga yan sa competitive form ng team. If India faced Iraq last month, I don't think India will beat Iraq.
Kunti lang talaga yung teams na consistent yung competitive form nila."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Agree with this. Without Lewis & either Harris or Grantham, Qatar is just within the level of its fellow Gulf teams like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait (Kuwait even beat Qatar last year in an international tourney among the Gulf states).Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Agree with this. Without Lewis & either Harris or Grantham, Qatar is just within the level of its fellow Gulf teams like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait (Kuwait even beat Qatar last year in an international tourney among the Gulf states). In fact if Qatar plays importless, I think Indonesia & Thailand can stand toe to toe with Qatar.Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
Having 2 imports in its roster, biglang lakas ng Qatar. With that, I think Qatar has the edge over Saudi, Bahrain, Iraq, Syria, UAE, Kuwait.
in fact, I think Qatar now can stand toe to toe with the rebuilding Iran national team. In fact, natalo na ng Qatar & Iran 4 months ago."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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speaking of drew timmeOriginally posted by Silent Killer View Post
so imagine the drew timme’s, the emoni bates in the world will play for guam.
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True... Only Australia is consistent among Asia/pacific teams that stay consistent whoever they face.. China and Japan was given a good fight from Guam last window, Korea almost lose to Thailand, etc... that means all teams can't stay consistent every window.. yes, they won that game, but I'm sure in their minds, that was disappointment.. they should be better than that...Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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Are they better than KSA? That's a question only.. because they both split their matches in Gulf cup last year, that was Qatar already have Lewis and Harris while KSA doesn't have Abdurrakman (newest naturalized player) yet... I will give KSA slight edge.. they are more complete than Qataris... Qatar is like Guam to me, Guam also have 2 world level imports in Galloway and Ross, and they might have better talents than Qatar and even KSA.. don't be surprise if they will recruit players since this is their debut tournament... They will give their all, especially probably this is the last years of Tai Wesley, and maybe Ross and Cruz (both are 34 years old)..Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostComment
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With the way we see right now, this is probably the last stint of Wayne Chism as Bahrain's naturalized player.. he's too old, can't run, can't jump and now can't even shoot... Iraq demoralize Bahrain's confidence right now... They have to find another naturalized player for the next cycle...Comment
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So the cast is already complete... We will have 1 debutant and 2 returnees after 8 years... Good luck to all 16 teams
Australia (rank 7)
Japan (rank 21)
NZL (rank 22)
Iran (rank 28)
Lebanon (rank 29)
China (rank 30)
Philippines (rank 34)
Jordan (rank 35)
Korea (rank 53)
Saudi Arabia (rank 65)
Syria (rank 71)
Taiwan (rank 75)
India (rank 81)
Qatar (rank 87)
Guam (rank 91)
Iraq (rank 93)Comment
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So officially the POTS for Fiba Asia cup will be:
POT 1: Australia, Japan, NZL, Iran
POT 2: Lebanon, China, Philippines, Jordan
POT 3: Korea, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Taiwan
POT 4: India, Qatar, Guam, Iraq
Now, depending on the host KSA where they will put themselves in draw POTS, usually host having privilege to put themselves in POT 1 (Just what Philippines did in last Fiba world cup) or they will choose group where they will be in turn for the draw (Just what Indonesia did last Fiba Asia cup)... If KSA choose the 1st option, they will be on POT 1 as host, Iran will be move to POT 2 and Jordan will be on POT 3... If KSA choose 2nd option, probably they will choose Iran group, since they are the weakest of those teams who are in POT 1, and expected that they will arrange some groups to their favor... The draw will be on April 8....Comment
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They might choose the Japan group because their record against Iran is quite terrible. They lost by 20-30 the last time they met. Also, it's to avoid any political BS that could occur during the game.Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
They don't have a good record against the Pot 2 teams either. They most certainly won't have an easier time against a resurgent China (the team in the pot they have yet to face) who wobbled Japan by 40-50.
All the Pot 4 teams are beatable for them.Comment
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That's the 2nd option.. I think KSA will choose first option, where they will put themselves in POT 1, just what we did in Fiba world cup draw as host privilege... They will likely target Syria as their group mates since in POT 3, only Syria is the easiest choice for them, And yes, PoT 4 is beatable for them.. maybe they will choose either India or Iraq...there is no geographical reasons for this event, so expect 1 group will be all East Asian teams and 1 group will be all West Asian groups...Originally posted by sroth3839 View PostComment
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That or they just choose their grouping like what Indonesia did in 2022.Originally posted by lem0nadi
KSA only needs a win so any of the pot 4 teams will suffice.
Their record against the Pot 1 and 2 teams are not in their favor.Comment
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