I was wondering about frequent the non-inclusion of Roosevelt Adams and Ray Parks. I keep on thinking what if, alongside Calvin Oftana, we have a 6'4 Parks and 6'5 Adams at the wings. It could have addressed our apparent lack of length and shooters.
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Originally posted by ja.he View PostI was wondering about frequent non-inclusion of Roosevelt Adams and Ray Parks. I keep on thinking what if, alongside Calvin Oftana, we have a 6'4 Parks and 6'5 Adams at the wings. It could have addressed our apparent lack of length and shooters.
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Originally posted by r1ck View PostIf the SBP is talking about a 4 year cycle we have a handful of 25 and under players that has played in the seniors team.
B League players
Kai Sotto - 7'2" 21 y/o
AJ Edu - 6'10" 24 y/o
Carl Tamayo - 6'7" 22 y/o
RJ Abarrientos - 5'10 24 y/o
Dwight Ramos - 6'4" 25 y/o
KBL players
Rhenz Abando - 6'2" 25 y/o
SJ Belangel - 5'9" 24 y/o
Juan Gomez De Liano - 6'0" 24 y/o
Dave Ildefonso 6'2" 23 y/o
PBA players
Javi Gomez De Liano - 6'3" 25 y/o
College players
Kevin Quiambao - 6'5" 22 y/o
Mason Amos - 6'7" 19 y/o
Francis Lopez - 6'5" 20 y/o
Jerom Lastimosa - 5'11" 25 y/o
Geo Chiu - 6'9" 22 y/o
** Ange Kouame - 6'11" 26 y/oOriginally posted by IPC View PostInclude Gutang in the KBL gang. He's eligible, and he's improving with LG.
Now, we'll need as many of the U26's as possible, because most of the pool for the WC and Asiad (excluding the ones you had on that list) are old.
Japeth (retired) - 36 going 37
Marcio - 36 going 37
Abueva - 35 going 36
Brownlee (NP) - 35 going 36
Erram (retired) - 34 going 35
June Mar - 34 going 35
Newsome - 32 going 33
Alas - 32 going 33
Terrence - 31 going 32
Pogoy - 31 going 32
JC - 31 going 32
Parks - 30 going 31
Scottie - 30 going 31
Perez - 30 going 31
Oftana - 28
Heading - 27 going 28
Malonzo - 27 going 28
Thirdy - 27 going 28
From this group, we really need to select those who can play until at least 2025. And the core has to be one that can play until 2027 at least. Focus on continuity even after that.Originally posted by IPC View PostThe core for the last Asiad was Japeth, June Mar, Newsome, Ange, Oftana, Perez, and Scottie. Excluding Japeth, who's already retired, that core has an average age of 31.33. We really need to get a younger core, one that can last until 2027.
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Originally posted by IPC View PostHere are the useful guys (or the potentially useful guys) from the playoff teams (in my opinion), along with their birth year so we can keep track of their age:
Mags: Abueva (1988)
SMB: June Mar (1989), Terrence (1992), Perez (1993)
Ginebra: Ahanmisi (1991), Scottie (1993), Malonzo (1996)
Phoenix: Tuffin (1997), Ricci (1998)
MERALCO: Newsome (1990)
NorthPort: Arvin (1995), Navarro (1997)
RoS: Mamuyac (1999)
TNT: Oftana (1996)
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Originally posted by ARMIR View PostI wouldn't be surprised if the composition of the team is 9 players from SMC teams 2 from other teams and Kai.
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Originally posted by ARMIR View PostI wouldn't be surprised if the composition of the team is 9 players from SMC teams 2 from other teams and Kai.Originally posted by paolylo View PostThat will prove Erika Dy is just another pawn in the dementia-infested world of SBP "stakeholders". All this bs on whoever the new coach is alreading having a set wishlist of players when it'll be just Al Francis doing the actual procurement of talent.
And, they have to be brain dead not to include Dwight, who is our most versatile player, and our best SF, not to mention being with Gilas since 2020. And the PBA has a glaring lack of viable PF's in FIBA (the useful eligibles are all outside the PBA (Carl, Mason, Balti), and Brownlee's the only useful full-time FIBA PF in the PBA).
Plus, Chua did mention the overseas guys. Keeping my expectations muted, but we can hope that the lineup will be more inclusive of them.
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Originally posted by paolylo View Post
That will prove Erika Dy is just another pawn in the dementia-infested world of SBP "stakeholders". All this bs on whoever the new coach is alreading having a set wishlist of players when it'll be just Al Francis doing the actual procurement of talent.
Me thinks this is a diversity,equity hire and also she's gonna be the spokesman and if anything goes wrong,she will take the brunt of it,saving the bruised ego of Panililio,SBP,Vargas,etc.
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Originally posted by IPC View Post
SMC have 7 eligible players that are useful right now (Abueva, June Mar, Terrence, M. Ahanmisi, Scottie, Perez, Malonzo), with Marcio as a probable end of bench player, and with Brownlee as the NP. Average age of 32. And of those 9, only Malonzo will be below 30 by the start of the window. Not exactly a long-term roster as Erika Dy said, Unless we count NorthPort and TerraFirma, the farm teams, which will include Arvin, Navarro, and Javi.
And, they have to be brain dead not to include Dwight, who is our most versatile player, and our best SF, not to mention being with Gilas since 2020. And the PBA has a glaring lack of viable PF's in FIBA (the useful eligibles are all outside the PBA (Carl, Mason, Balti), and Brownlee's the only useful full-time FIBA PF in the PBA).
Plus, Chua did mention the overseas guys. Keeping my expectations muted, but we can hope that the lineup will be more inclusive of them.
So including Brownlee at least 7,then 3 from other PBA teams and 2 overseas with Kai one of them,the none SMC players are the ones they're trying to convince to sign to SMC teams,1 overseas guy who's a specialist in his position and for Kai them trying to use his NIL for SMC products.
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The funny thing is aside from Brownlee, the players that contributed most to the Asiad gold is not with SMC. Without Kouame we would not have won. For the locals it was Newsome who was most instrumental in the gold medal game. The SMC players are not the best international players in their position. Junemar is best as a backup now. We will lose if he is the best center in the team. Scottie is still not our best PG, it is Bollick. CJ is not the best SG. Malonzo is good but he is a tweener. Dwight is still our best SF. At PF Jamie is a bit small.
I dont think Al Chua has any illusions that he can win with mostly SMC players.Last edited by Rds; 01-19-2024, 01:33 AM.
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Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
Me thinks this is a diversity,equity hire and also she's gonna be the spokesman and if anything goes wrong,she will take the brunt of it,saving the bruised ego of Panililio,SBP,Vargas,etc.
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Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
I listened to Snow's podcast and he blamed the old guard for the asian games list debacle. She might be a stooge but hopefully she is competent.
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Originally posted by ARMIR View PostSo including Brownlee at least 7,then 3 from other PBA teams and 2 overseas with Kai one of them,the none SMC players are the ones they're trying to convince to sign to SMC teams,1 overseas guy who's a specialist in his position and for Kai them trying to use his NIL for SMC products.Originally posted by Rds View PostThe funny thing is aside from Brownlee, the players that contributed most to the Asiad gold is not with SMC. Without Kouame we would not have won. For the locals it was Newsome who was most instrumental in the gold medal game. The SMC players are not the best international players in their position. Junemar is best as a backup now. We will lose if he is the best center in the team. Scottie is still not our best PG, it is Bollick. CJ is not the best SG. Malonzo is good but he is a tweener. Dwight is still our best SF. At PF Jamie is a bit small.
I dont think Al Chua has any illusions that he can win with mostly SMC players.
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