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Originally posted by sajubeads
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But if we are to believe some of our fellow Pinoy posters here, modern basketball, especially triangle offense, does not need natural or traditional point guard for as long as the team has some playmakers playing in other positions."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV -
I think Oftana isn't really built for the FIBA game. In the PBA, he's really one of the deadliest 3-pt shooter & if he is in his rhythm, he can hit as many as 5 to 6 triples in a game. But in the FIBA game parang you are watching at a different Oftana in Gilas jersey. It's like a water-down version of Oftana you're watching in Gilas uniform. He reminds me of Matthew Wright in Gilas uniform.Originally posted by Blueorgreen22 View Post"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Level of competition is another issue, Oftana is basically top tier in the PBA in terms of skill and height for his position, not to mention PBA don’t really guard the perimeter that wellOriginally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
meanwhile in FIBA ball he has to deal with bigger, more skilled and athletic counterpartsComment
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To me, this loss against Taipei is not of the same magnitude when we were beaten by Indonesia.
Maybe because I know that Taipei is a level better locals than Indonesia. Another is that Taipei wants to comeback its respectability in Asian basketball. That's the reason why I am not really that mad with the yesterday's results. Taipei just showed its hunger to win meaningful games.
On the side of Gilas, I will still give Tim Cone a try. For one, Gilas has already qualified for the FIBA-Asia Cup. Most likely, this window will be a good test about the level of Gilas with Kai sitting. Another is the reintegration of AJ to the team. Last is the adjustments that need to be adjusted based on this window which should include the addition of personnel.
Overall, I am just happy that Taipei is now getting better after years of conundrum due to the departures of Tseng Wenting, Tien Lei, Wu Taihao and Lin Chihchieh.Attack
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this team iteration is already scouted, aggressive ball pressure stifled going into the flow of triangle offense such that perez, thomposon, newsome even dwight coughs up the ball.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
expecting RJ Abarrientos to be added or a better defense/offense guard (Heading but maybe wont happen) who can withstand ball pressure. remove CJ perez alreadyComment
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What are the weight of of qualification to continental tournaments, almost a non bearing battle to the ones already qualified.To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.Comment
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Yes, very poor performance and a good chance to consider things.Originally posted by ja.he View Post
We should give props to Taiwan though, they won the game doing their thing and it wasn't all about us playing poorly. Anytime a team can shoot like that, anything is possible. It's like how Japan almost beat France. That cash bonus was also a genius move that pumped the players up. Long hair skinny guy skying for that rebound over Brownlee perfectly illustrated the disparity in who wants it more.
The way it transpired, we didn't even do anything towards the side quest objectives like giving young guys ample experience (except for Edu). The team didn't really learn anything new. Meanwhile, Japan could care less with winning this games. The constant pressure to win each and every game is really detrimental.
The supposed Team Identity is defense and size and that 5-out lights-out shooting of Taiwan did a good job of taking both of it away.Comment
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But you have to take into consideration that the Gilas team that was beaten by Indonesia in 2022 was far from a full force Gilas team. It lacked a good number of elite or key Gilas players. On the other hand, the Gilas team that bowed to Taiwan last night is a full force Gilas team minus only 1 key player in Kai Sotto.Originally posted by ja.he View Post
Then after this current Gilas team beat world No. 6 Latvia in last year's Olympic Qualifying Tournament & those close loses to Georgia, & Brazil (minus Kai Sotto) & our victory over New Zealand in the 2nd window, we can't deny the fact that expectations of fans (including us IBNers) from our team had been high. Honestly, I wasn't that frustrated about our loss to Indonesia in 2022 as I am after that Gilas loss to Taiwan last night. Yes I acknowledge that Taiwan has really improved significantly in recent years, but let's be honest, most of us here (if not all) strongly believe that current Gilas team (even w/o a Kai Sotto) is above the level current Taiwan team."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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It's crazy that a year ago, the fans were literally cheering for the long-haired guy to score—either for fun or to mock him—when they were down by 50+ points. No one would have thought that a year later, he would get his revenge. I still can't believe how massive the downfall was after losing Kai. Honestly, I thought this window would be for the KBL boys, but CTC didn’t even give them a chance.
What makes this loss even more painful is that the Taipei team was missing two key players, the Hinton brothers. Robert Hinton, who is currently doing good in the Ivy League, is easily their best player, while Adam is a starter-caliber player for them. It makes me think that even if we had Kai, the result would have been the same if they had those two. Our gap with them is getting narrower without us even realizing it.
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Imo, the offense was not the reason we lost. We came back and even got the lead back in the crucial moments, we scored enough. (and the triangle is an old offense, Taiwan is the one that used a new 5-out offense). Old vs new.Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
The problem is more on the defensive end. We had no answer for their shooters and they kept hitting it until the end.
Let's say we had trad PGs...he has to be a plus defender Trad PG who can cover a lot of ground and be versatile (big) enough to constantly switch. If not, it will open up another whole can of worms where we can't play ultra big (and that includes Kai).
If there's a trad pg that could've covered those Taiwanese shooters last night and at the same time have the ability to cover for our slow bigs, then yes by all means he should be considered.
Guys are so fixated on the offensive side, analyze the defensive side. Whatever improvements we do should also impact that side.Comment
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Definitely, pretty soon this Taiwan team will be dangerous. They're not the same team from the past decade.Originally posted by lem0nadi View Post
And this is by design. Pay attention to how they created a team B to enable the young guys to have a lot of experience. They have a strategic mindset and also gearing up for a potential golden generation of their own.Comment
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Do U think the Taiwan coach realized that we don't really have a natural or traditional point guard, hence they really put pressure on our guards?Originally posted by noyce View Post"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
you dont even have to watch a whole game. just look HOW he played in college. they ran a 2 point guard setup with him and Paras' former HS teammate Acquaah. Acquaah is a shoot first player who doesnt really set plays.
he isnt a great playmaker. but to say he only learned how to play in Converge is simply not true.
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For taiwan only one hinton was needed.. the problem of taiwan will be their abundance from 1-3 position..To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.Comment
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