FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers

[JAMSKIE]

The answer is obvious:

he only wants players who already know his system.

Prior to playing for Gilas under coach Tim Cone, guys like Kai Sotto, Dwight Ramos, Carl Tamayo, Calvin Oftana, Chris Newsome, CJ Perez, Junmar Fajardo didn't know coach Tim's system. But they have learned the system & got used to it as they played more games & practiced with the team under such system. In short, it is a process.

Naka ilang games na ba & practices ang mga non-Ginebra Gilas players under coach Tim's triangle offense? Players like Kai, Dwight & Carl played & practiced with coach Tim's Gilas only for the 1st & 2nd windos & the 2024 Olympic Qualifying Tournament. Hindi ganoon karaming games yun & practice sessions, yet they already have a good grasp of the triangle. Junmar, CJ Perez, Oftana & Newsome have more games & practices because they played under coach Tim with Gilas in last year's Asian Games, but if you analyze it, hindi pa rin ganoon karaming games yun & practices.

My point here is that if only coach Tim would add around 3 to 4 new players in the Gilas team/pool, after 2 or 3 windows, these new players will have a good grasp of his system. Remember that Gilas will have a longer preparation for the coming 2025 FIBA Asia Cup. If for instance Gilas is given about 4 weeks of training for that tournament, that would be the perfect opportunity for the new players to learn & assimilate themselves with the system, the triangle in particular. Besides, the new players aren't expected to get major minutes & role with the team. They will undergo some sort of immersion naman eh.

[C2Hamm]

Prior to playing for Gilas under coach Tim Cone, guys like Kai Sotto, Dwight Ramos, Carl Tamayo, Calvin Oftana, Chris Newsome, CJ Perez, Junmar Fajardo didn't know coach Tim's system. But they have learned the system & got used to it as they played more games & practiced with the team under such system. In short, it is a process.

Naka ilang games na ba & practices ang mga non-Ginebra Gilas players under coach Tim's triangle offense? Players like Kai, Dwight & Carl played & practiced with coach Tim's Gilas only for the 1st & 2nd windos & the 2024 Olympic Qualifying Tournament. Hindi ganoon karaming games yun & practice sessions, yet they already have a good grasp of the triangle. Junmar, CJ Perez, Oftana & Newsome have more games & practices because they played under coach Tim with Gilas in last year's Asian Games, but if you analyze it, hindi pa rin ganoon karaming games yun & practices.

My point here is that if only coach Tim would add around 3 to 4 new players in the Gilas team/pool, after 2 or 3 windows, these new players will have a good grasp of his system. Remember that Gilas will have a longer preparation for the coming 2025 FIBA Asia Cup. If for instance Gilas is given about 4 weeks of training for that tournament, that would be the perfect opportunity for the new players to learn & assimilate themselves with the system, the triangle in particular. Besides, the new players aren't expected to get major minutes & role with the team. They will undergo some sort of immersion naman eh.

what you, or most of us, want is a different matter vs what Alfrancis and CTC wants.I agree with sroth in essence simply because that is what is being shown to us. Oftana, Newsome, Perez and Junmar has been in the PBA for a long time. CTC already knows how they play, and the players, may not know the X and O of CTCs plays but they have a working idea already.

Kai, Dwight, Carl, and KQ are players that PBA wants to be associated with even if they arent in the league yet. all the yapping by some PBA people a year or 2 ago of KBL or JBL pirating players is all about retaining young Pinoy players they feel will keep PBA relevant. and we all know Kai is on top of that list. AJ barely plays because of injury. I have no idea why Amos is in the pool at all. maybe they think he will be KQ like in the future? he is a mirror image of Konov, so dont know what his possible role is in the future.

[ja.he]

Tim Cone is really a good coach. Problem though is, sometimes, he thinks insular and he only knows PBA players. Outside Kai, AJ, Carl, KQ and Dwight, he does not like to explore other non-PBA pros. I doubt if he watches KBL and B.League games.

[live_evil]

Tim Cone doesn't know how to delegate. A proper program should have a cadet pool. Tim saying he doesn't have time to teach new recruits is complete nonsense. He has assistants who could handle that. Aside from his assistants you have Tenorio, Devance, Hawkins, and Abarrientos who have mastered the triangle who could handle the cadet team's practices.

[FilWelsh]

As Gilas are already assured qualification to 2025 FIBA Asia Cup no need to go all out. As we are playing in Manila against Taiwan that is a must win game to appease home crowd. Whilst away match against Kiwis our boys can just relax and try not to get injuries. I’m sure NZ will be physical and will try to avenge their first leg loss.

Line-up wise, I would be better if CTC make minor changes as not to alter chemistry. If I am him I will keep 10 players from November window and tap Balti as replacement of Kai. Then I would re-activate Malonzo in lieu of KQ who I think will not be available as he still be adjusting with his life in S.Korea…

So the crew would like these : Newsome, Thompson, Malonzo, Perez, Oftana, Ramos, Aguilar, Brownlee, Tamayo, Fajardo, Amos, Baltazar.

[FilWelsh]

As Gilas are already assured qualification to 2025 FIBA Asia Cup no need to go all out. As we are playing in Manila against Taiwan that is a must win game to appease home crowd. Whilst away match against Kiwis our boys can just relax and try not to get injuries. I’m sure NZ will be physical and will try to avenge their first leg loss.

Line-up wise, I would be better if CTC make minor changes as not to alter chemistry. If I am him I will keep 10 players from November window and tap Balti as replacement of Kai. Then I would re-activate Malonzo in lieu of KQ who I think will not be available as he still be adjusting with his life in S.Korea…

So the crew would like these : Newsome, Thompson, Malonzo, Perez, Oftana, Ramos, Aguilar, Brownlee, Tamayo, Fajardo, Amos, Baltazar.

Not to push too much I just add the other 2 in the pool : Edu and Kouame. Ange may not be realistic same with Balti as he is not included with Cone’s pool. For me these will suffice. Yes, chemistry is of prime commodity as we have less than 6 months of preparation. I agree with TC send an almost intact crew save maybe or aside from Balti…

Keeping same intact 14 player crew will make wonders. Contingency if Brownlee get injured, Cone elevate Kouame as JBL’s replacement. I believe with that crew we should be OK in Saudi…

[FilWelsh]

After 2025 FIBA Asia I believe that’s the time we’ll make changes at least a maximum of 4 new players…

[IPC]

As Gilas are already assured qualification to 2025 FIBA Asia Cup no need to go all out. As we are playing in Manila against Taiwan that is a must win game to appease home crowd. Whilst away match against Kiwis our boys can just relax and try not to get injuries. I’m sure NZ will be physical and will try to avenge their first leg loss.

Line-up wise, I would be better if CTC make minor changes as not to alter chemistry. If I am him I will keep 10 players from November window and tap Balti as replacement of Kai. Then I would re-activate Malonzo in lieu of KQ who I think will not be available as he still be adjusting with his life in S.Korea…

So the crew would like these : Newsome, Thompson, Malonzo, Perez, Oftana, Ramos, Aguilar, Brownlee, Tamayo, Fajardo, Amos, Baltazar.

Not to push too much I just add the other 2 in the pool : Edu and Kouame. Ange may not be realistic same with Balti as he is not included with Cone’s pool. For me these will suffice. Yes, chemistry is of prime commodity as we have less than 6 months of preparation. I agree with TC send an almost intact crew save maybe or aside from Balti…

Keeping same intact 14 player crew will make wonders. Contingency if Brownlee get injured, Cone elevate Kouame as JBL’s replacement. I believe with that crew we should be OK in Saudi…

If we're going to keep the same lineup, maybe we could experiment with a lineup with JB or Carl at the 5 when AJ's not on the floor. Or find ways to minimize June Mar's involvement on defense whenever he's on the floor.

[FilWelsh]

I am pretty confident with whatever TC decides on his final team composition. Anyway we will be playing like home team in Saudi. Home crowd will definitely be rooting for us except if we are group with the Saudis…

[sroth3839]

I think now is an opportunity to start Carl instead of Junemar.

First game is against Taiwan and they play fast / shoot lots of 3s.

Really don’t trust Junemar’s ability to close out on shooters.

Starting 5

Scottie
Dwight
Oftana / KQ
Carl
Edu

[IPC]

I think now is an opportunity to start Carl instead of Junemar.

First game is against Taiwan and they play fast / shoot lots of 3s.

Really don’t trust Junemar’s ability to close out on shooters.

Starting 5

Scottie
Dwight
Oftana / KQ
Carl
Edu

JB off the bench?

[thatweirdguy]

JB off the bench?

He's getting up there in age. Time to groom his replacement and keep him fresh for the really important games

[r1ck]

It looks like SMC just might drop Bennie Boatwright from being the next naturalized player for Gilas.

[sroth3839]

It looks like SMC just might drop Bennie Boatwright from being the next naturalized player for Gilas.

Source?

[sroth3839]

JB off the bench?

Worth trying because he’s 37.

If Bennie’s papers aren’t ready post-Asia Cup, then the only player viable is Ange.