Another thing is if you look those countries, Japan, Australia, Iran, Korea, Jordan and Saudi Arabia are only countries that make their both teams in top 10 rank both in football and basketball.. makes them they are the best team sports program in Asia.... Actually Jordan is the surprisingly make on that list.. A country is not that rich economically but they have good program in both popular sports worldwide... China meanwhile are disappointing in Asian football by not making in the top 10 in AFC rankings...
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
FIBA ASIA Cup Qualifiers
Collapse
X
-
Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View PostOT: which competition is more tougher? Asian basketball or Asian football? I know many participants in AFC than FIBA Asia but adding Australia to our zone in basketball is putting more tougher than Australia to AFC.. plus New Zealand is there too in basketball... I found some comments that Asian football competition is more tougher, w/c I disagree since having Australia and New Zealand in Asian basketball makes the competition more tougher than football... It just we are too good in basketball that's why we didn't felt that competition in Asian competition that much... I look at the top 10 rank of Asian teams both in football and basketball in terms of rankings, and I think basketball competition in Asia is more tougher...
FIBA Asia top 10 rankings:
Australia - 7
Japan - 21
New Zealand - 22
Iran - 28
Lebanon - 29
China - 30
Philippines - 34
Jordan - 35
Korea - 54
Saudi Arabia - 66
AFC top 10 rankings:
Japan - 15
Iran - 18
Korea - 23
Australia - 26
Qatar - 48
Iraq - 56
Saudi Arabia - 59
UAE - 63
Jordan - 64
Bahrain - 81
Worldwide no question football competition is tougher than basketball but I'm talking about Asian competition only... The best Asia/Pacific team in basketball is in the top 10 rankings while the top Asia/Pacific team is Japan at number 15...
Comment
-
Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post
for me AFC is tougher for various reasons…
Comment
-
Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View PostOT: which competition is more tougher? Asian basketball or Asian football? I know many participants in AFC than FIBA Asia but adding Australia to our zone in basketball is putting more tougher than Australia to AFC.. plus New Zealand is there too in basketball... I found some comments that Asian football competition is more tougher, w/c I disagree since having Australia and New Zealand in Asian basketball makes the competition more tougher than football... It just we are too good in basketball that's why we didn't felt that competition in Asian competition that much... I look at the top 10 rank of Asian teams both in football and basketball in terms of rankings, and I think basketball competition in Asia is more tougher...
FIBA Asia top 10 rankings:
Australia - 7
Japan - 21
New Zealand - 22
Iran - 28
Lebanon - 29
China - 30
Philippines - 34
Jordan - 35
Korea - 54
Saudi Arabia - 66
AFC top 10 rankings:
Japan - 15
Iran - 18
Korea - 23
Australia - 26
Qatar - 48
Iraq - 56
Saudi Arabia - 59
UAE - 63
Jordan - 64
Bahrain - 81
Worldwide no question football competition is tougher than basketball but I'm talking about Asian competition only... The best Asia/Pacific team in basketball is in the top 10 rankings while the top Asia/Pacific team is Japan at number 15...
Just look at the performances of Thailand and Vietnam as of late. They are very good in the ASEAN level but can’t make a dent in the AFC. Indonesia has what now? 70% foreign born players?
Top ten in FIBA Asia means nothing. It should be looked at as:
Tier Elite:
Australia
Tier I:
Japan
Philippines
China
NZ
Lebanon
Jordan
Iran
Korea
Tier II:
Saudi
Bahrain
Qatar
India
Kazakhstan
Syria
Taiwan
We all know there’s a massive gap between Australia and Tier I teams already. The Tier II teams can challenge the Tier I teams from time to time but their records haven’t been impressive against those teams.
Comment
-
Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
AFC for sure. There’s more competition and it’s harder to progress out of the group stages in the AFC.
Just look at the performances of Thailand and Vietnam as of late. They are very good in the ASEAN level but can’t make a dent in the AFC. Indonesia has what now? 70% foreign born players?
Top ten in FIBA Asia means nothing. It should be looked at as:
Tier Elite:
Australia
Tier I:
Japan
Philippines
China
Lebanon
Jordan
Iran
Korea
Tier II:
Saudi
Bahrain
Qatar
India
Kazakhstan
Syria
Taiwan
We all know there’s a massive gap between Australia and Tier I teams already. The Tier II teams can challenge the Tier I teams from time to time but their records haven’t been impressive against those teams.
Comment
-
I believe the golden generation of Japan will still be lording over us and the rest of Asia (except Australia) until the next Olympic cycle (2028) LA Olympics. Even if SBP succeed with FIBA in re-classifying Kouame and M. Phillips as local or homegrown. Even if QMB secured his Filipino passport before he reached 16. Still Japan is a tough nut to crack…
Comment
-
Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
AFC for sure. There’s more competition and it’s harder to progress out of the group stages in the AFC.
Just look at the performances of Thailand and Vietnam as of late. They are very good in the ASEAN level but can’t make a dent in the AFC. Indonesia has what now? 70% foreign born players?
Top ten in FIBA Asia means nothing. It should be looked at as:
Tier Elite:
Australia
Tier I:
Japan
Philippines
China
NZ
Lebanon
Jordan
Iran
Korea
Tier II:
Saudi
Bahrain
Qatar
India
Kazakhstan
Syria
Taiwan
We all know there’s a massive gap between Australia and Tier I teams already. The Tier II teams can challenge the Tier I teams from time to time but their records haven’t been impressive against those teams.Attack
defend
Unite
Comment
-
Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post
for me AFC is tougher for various reasons…
Comment
-
Originally posted by Dotch View Post
Thailand who is the best in ASEAN cannot even crack the AFC Top 10. China even with multi million investments in player development and a top flight league that attracts mid tier European and south American cannot even reach the level of Korea, Japan, Iran and Saudi.
Comment
-
Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
AFC for sure. There’s more competition and it’s harder to progress out of the group stages in the AFC.
Just look at the performances of Thailand and Vietnam as of late. They are very good in the ASEAN level but can’t make a dent in the AFC. Indonesia has what now? 70% foreign born players?
Top ten in FIBA Asia means nothing. It should be looked at as:
Tier Elite:
Australia
Tier I:
Japan
Philippines
China
NZ
Lebanon
Jordan
Iran
Korea
Tier II:
Saudi
Bahrain
Qatar
India
Kazakhstan
Syria
Taiwan
We all know there’s a massive gap between Australia and Tier I teams already. The Tier II teams can challenge the Tier I teams from time to time but their records haven’t been impressive against those teams.
Comment
-
Originally posted by FilWelsh View PostI believe the golden generation of Japan will still be lording over us and the rest of Asia (except Australia) until the next Olympic cycle (2028) LA Olympics. Even if SBP succeed with FIBA in re-classifying Kouame and M. Phillips as local or homegrown. Even if QMB secured his Filipino passport before he reached 16. Still Japan is a tough nut to crack…
Comment
-
Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
For a country who is more obsessed with baseball,American football and soccer,they managed to find the fomula to succeed,where Gilas failed to do so.
Japan overcomes this disadvantage by using characteristics where they are world elite...hard-work, discipline, strategizing and long-term patience/outlook...things that also make them an economic powerhouse. In sports, this is best illustrated by their "Koshien" baseball...an almost maniacal approach starting at a young age to become good at baseball. They also recently adapted this into basketball to great effect. They already have a blueprint for team success and the innate discipline required so it's just a matter of them applying it to different sports.
The "10,000 hour rule" (to become world-elite) that I've mentioned before is child's play for the Japanese. For them it's more like the 30,000 hour rule.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Metta View Post
The thing that enables Japan to do this is because they use their strategic and organizational expertise in sports. Countries without God-given optimal genetics (most Asians) are at a huge disadvantage when it comes to team sports.
Japan overcomes this disadvantage by using characteristics where they are world elite...hard-work, discipline, strategizing and long-term patience/outlook...things that also make them an economic powerhouse. In sports, this is best illustrated by their "Koshien" baseball...an almost maniacal approach starting at a young age to become good at baseball. They also recently adapted this into basketball to great effect. They already have a blueprint for team success and the innate discipline required so it's just a matter of them applying it to different sports.
The "10,000 hour rule" (to become world-elite) that I've mentioned before is child's play for the Japanese. For them it's more like the 30,000 hour rule.
Note: I am one of the supporters of Chot's ouster and I am very thankful that he resigned. We are in good hands with Tim Cone right now.Attack
defend
Unite
Comment
Comment