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  • As confirmed by Chua , the SBP hasnt seen QMB passport, there isn't any reasonable reason for QMB (who is a significant contribution to Gilas ) to withhold presenting his passport to the SBP
    Do note a valid passport before 16 years old is littierally the only requirement to be eligible as a local, this is NOT a document that needs further lobbying or persuasion to be exempted to play as a local . The whole situation with QMB does not add up, Considering for the longest time QMB camp has been seeking help to fix his papers for his passport and has been courted by Batang Gilas nd college teams for years.

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    • Theres a lot fishy with the recruitment of QMB. A lot of the other big schools backed off because of the papers QMB.They obv think they couldnt get it done.

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      • Again in chua perspective him.being eligible before pba draft is at tebir disadvantage, him being eligible after being drafted by terrafirma is perfect situation

        And sir analyzed we all know the pruce tag of qmb will be up more than 100 % if he becomes eligible
        To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
        1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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        • Originally posted by reamily View Post
          Again in chua perspective him.being eligible before pba draft is at tebir disadvantage, him being eligible after being drafted by terrafirma is perfect situation

          And sir analyzed we all know the pruce tag of qmb will be up more than 100 % if he becomes eligible
          The thing is if the claim is he already has a passport before 16 yrs, old then it's not even up to SBP to process or determine if he's FIBA eligible, ( a valid passport before 16 yrs old does NOT require an exception or for SBP to file an application for exception) . With a U16 passport QMB is eligible period (no questions asked). So this begs the question, why haven't they presented this so called passport all these years ? Another Clarkson passport magic thing ? If so then it makes sense why they're holding back, cause if that magic passport is filed to FIBA for verification and does not match immigration international record ( as Chua said , pahiya naman tayo,, huli ka !) To mods I purposely wrote thst not in English so as not add shame.

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          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

            and does not match immigration international record (
            how does this work? what if the kid never got his ph passport stamped?

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            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

              Like many of us saw Clarkson passport online - ( the reason Chua sited SBP was embarrassed,) it's NOT the citing of a duly issued passport by DFA that matters, but if the citizenship ownership has been declared in international immigration records (and not have a contradictory declaration). BTW presenting a passport before 16 yrs old is NOT an exception case , but litterally just meeting main requirement for eligibility .
              Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
              https://www.facebook.com/share/p/8MFQ4uk3SZC4zYUg/

              Potentially another embarrassing situation like Clarkson.
              Essentially what it comes down to is if the citizenship and passport has been entered declared in International immigration records prior to 16th birthday. It's either there or not before 2016. No amount of new documents or even citing of a passport matters. If walang record entered wala.
              Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

              how does this work? what if the kid never got his ph passport stamped?


              so granting that QMB’s parents did indeed secured his Filipino passport in a Philippine consulate in the States when he was still a boy. This is likely as Milloras are well connected. I posted here before I understand his grandpa is a distinguished UP College of Medicine alumnus. At young age his lolo may have seen his apo’s potential and applied dual citizenship for young Quentin. Former IBP president and late Pangasinan governor Vicente Millora is a relative of his lolo. At very young age he may have Philippine passport but it may have expired and never stamped as Quentin may never used his Philippine passport when he spent his holidays in Philippines. Having a Western passport is more convenient when going to immigration counters in NAIA. As Philippine passport holders have to traverse usually long queues.

              I have 2 passports myself, I usually presented my non-Filipino passport whenever I go to Philippines. I secured it almost 10 years ago after my re-acquisition of Filipino citizenship. Almost every year I have vacation to home-country but each time I don’t bothered to have it stamped. Maybe QMB’s parents were doing the same…

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              • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

                how does this work? what if the kid never got his ph passport stamped?
                I'm.not referring to the use of the passport to enter borders and get stamped record.

                I'm referring to if the Philippine passport and citizenship was declared with particularly US immigration and as such recorded in the 5 eyes partners database which FIBA uses for record matching to verify authenticity..

                in most border entry forms and when applying for either visas or any service with or from the US government, included is a declaration question-; Do you or Amy member of family posses a citizenship other than the US ? Forms have a date when completed. If their family has been declaring NO. , then there will be NO record entered in international data base . Note false declaration is quite a serious matter.

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                • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                  in most border entry forms and when applying for either visas or any service with or from the US government, included is a declaration question-; Do you or Amy member of family posses a citizenship other than the US ? Forms have a date when completed. If their family has been declaring NO. , then there will be NO record entered in international data base . Note false declaration is quite a serious matter.
                  this is not true, you don't get asked that when applying for or renewing a US passport

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                  • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

                    this is not true, you don't get asked that when applying for or renewing a US passport
                    That is why I said in "most" not all (not necessarily for US passport renewing), example, as part of family members job application check for a gov't position an applicant was required to disclose any other citizenship owned by a family member. There are reasons why the information is important , tax matters and security back ground check being among them. It just takes one negative declaration recorded to contradict a document presented.

                    How do you think Clarkson's U14 passport was rejected after checks,? when it was really a true passport issued by DFA the legal authoritative agency for issuing Philippine passports

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                    • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

                      I'm.not referring to the use of the passport to enter borders and get stamped record.

                      I'm referring to if the Philippine passport and citizenship was declared with particularly US immigration and as such recorded in the 5 eyes partners database which FIBA uses for record matching to verify authenticity..

                      in most border entry forms and when applying for either visas or any service with or from the US government, included is a declaration question-; Do you or Amy member of family posses a citizenship other than the US ? Forms have a date when completed. If their family has been declaring NO. , then there will be NO record entered in international data base . Note false declaration is quite a serious matter.
                      I am residing in a 5 eyes partner country and do travel a lot into and out UK and once in every 3 years goes to USA to visit relatives and friends. I don’t recall completing that declaration question in ESTA form. Yes personal questions intended for me but none regarding citizenship of my immediate family.

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                      • Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post

                        I am residing in a 5 eyes partner country and do travel a lot into and out UK and once in every 3 years goes to USA to visit relatives and friends. I don’t recall completing that declaration question in ESTA form. Yes personal questions intended for me but none regarding citizenship of my immediate family.
                        Yes , frequency or even little recent engagement with authorities may not require disclosure , but it only takes one contradictory disclosure , as in the case of Clarkson. all my siblings based in the US , have disclosed that I own a citizenship and passport that i am holding now ( also part of 5 eyes) , so it does happen that declaration are made , not necessarily for some engagements i agree

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                        • Still a mystery to many of us why Tyler Harris or Mike Lewis has gotten his FIBA clearance as local Qatari if indeed Qatar immigration and FIBA utilises 5 Eyes’ vetting system…

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                          • Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post
                            Still a mystery to many of us why Tyler Harris or Mike Harris has gotten his FIBA clearance as local Qatari if indeed Qatar immigration and FIBA utilises 5 Eyes’ vetting system…
                            One of the Harris case was documented in an article below, in his case there was no claim he got a passport before 16. the case was consistent with the guildlines for exception - residency and domestic league , and lastly other connections- holding academy in Qatar to boost their competitiveness as host of the 2027 WC. Harris is an exception case , QMB and Clarkson if claim is pasport before 16 is NOT an exception case , but litterally meeting the only requirement for eligibility - passport before 16. which actually should be super strainghtforward , which begs the question , what's holding back even presenting the passport after all these years ?
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                            • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

                              One of the Harris case was documented in an article below, in his case there was no claim he got a passport before 16. the case was consistent with the guildlines for exception - residency and domestic league , and lastly other connections- holding academy in Qatar to boost their competitiveness as host of the 2027 WC. Harris is an exception case , QMB and Clarkson if claim is pasport before 16 is NOT an exception case , but litterally meeting the only requirement for eligibility - passport before 16. which actually should be super strainghtforward , which begs the question , what's holding back even presenting the passport after all these years ?
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                              then we will see. This will all be cleared by next year definitely…

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                              • Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post

                                this is not true, you don't get asked that when applying for or renewing a US passport
                                Dual US here, I concur.

                                If that was indeed the reason why Clarkson got rejected, that's some deep sleuthing they did on him. Someone actually went through the trouble of going through his whole family's travel/application/renewal records just to disprove the authenticity of his passport.

                                Just the passport requirement itself is so discriminatory for me (poor people don't even bother to get one). I'd bet a lot of nba players never got passports before they were 16. Now the passport has to be five-eyes vetted (which I would think creates complications/doubts towards poorer countries).

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