Speaking of Khaled Abdel Gabbar and KSA... Like Qatar, they were given privilege by FIBA since they will host the main Fiba Asia cup next year (although unlike Qatar, KSA's case is more clearer and no controversy since Khaled already with Saudi team since 2017, thus his case is very valid).. that means the can hire new naturalized player (actually I thought before Khaled is a local), I said many times before, their main problem is offense... they are one of the bottom 5 in terms of offense out of 24 teams participating while they are top 5 in defense.. KSA is mainly a defensive team, very versatile and might give teams trouble, especially East Asian teams... They badly need a naturalized scorer that can gather buckets if the locals struggling to get points (ala George King).. If they get an import who can score buckets, they can give top 10 teams (maybe except Australia) run for their money... Especially they are playing at home...
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View PostSpeaking of Khaled Abdel Gabbar and KSA... Like Qatar, they were given privilege by FIBA since they will host the main Fiba Asia cup next year (although unlike Qatar, KSA's case is more clearer and no controversy since Khaled already with Saudi team since 2017, thus his case is very valid).. that means the can hire new naturalized player (actually I thought before Khaled is a local), I said many times before, their main problem is offense... they are one of the bottom 5 in terms of offense out of 24 teams participating while they are top 5 in defense.. KSA is mainly a defensive team, very versatile and might give teams trouble, especially East Asian teams... They badly need a naturalized scorer that can gather buckets if the locals struggling to get points (ala George King).. If they get an import who can score buckets, they can give top 10 teams (maybe except Australia) run for their money... Especially they are playing at home...
Those two wins against Jordan and Japan were because the latter two didn't have their key players.
Depth is their biggest problem. Outside Al-Suwailem, they don't have other bigs besides an ageing Al-Marwani. Their wings and back court are undersized. They rely on outside shooting against much bigger teams. Iraq exploited this and nearly stole the game in their last encounter.
A naturalized player may help but I doubt it'll be enough.
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Originally posted by sroth3839 View Post
KSA is also 2-13 against the top 10 teams.
Those two wins against Jordan and Japan were because the latter two didn't have their key players.
Depth is their biggest problem. Outside Al-Suwailem, they don't have other bigs besides an ageing Al-Marwani. Their wings and back court are undersized. They rely on outside shooting against much bigger teams. Iraq exploited this and nearly stole the game in their last encounter.
A naturalized player may help but I doubt it'll be enough.
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
Correct... Actually many countries now doing this practice
Mohammed Gadiaga (Taiwan)- reside in Taiwan since 8 years old, granted his passport after 16.. become Fiba local eligible just last year
Mamadou Ndiaye (UAE) - Reside in Dubai at 2017, played many time in UAE national team either 5x5 or 3x3, played in various local leagues in UAE, granted his passport early 2022, became Fiba local eligible early this year
Khalid Abdel Gabbar (KSA) - Reside in Saudi since 2016, played many national team stint since 2017, played in various local leagues in KSA, granted his passport since 2017 (Naturalization in Saudi needs to convert to Islam) and now just granted FIBA local eligible yesterday...
Freddie Lish (Thailand) - Reside in Taiwan since 2014, played and stayed in Thailand for 8 years in any Thai league... Granted his local status in late 2022....
Brandon Jawato (Indonesia) - Reside in Indonesia since 2015, played numerous leagues in Indonesia either IBL or ABL, granted his passport and local status late 2020...
Actually even Joel Embiid can be local eligible for USA if they wanted too.. Embiid already reside in USA since 2014 since when he was drafted.. already have house residency and his child born there...
IT WAS an overtime period between archrivals Ateneo de Manila and De La Salle University (DLSU) during the FilOil Flying...
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Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post
so taking this info into account it is safe to say that SBP has a chance of positive outcome if they facilitate for Kouame’s exception. Ange started his residency in Philippines in October 2016 and that’s already 8 years…
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Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post
so taking this info into account it is safe to say that SBP has a chance of positive outcome if they facilitate for Kouame’s exception. Ange started his residency in Philippines in October 2016 and that’s already 8 years…
some people in SBP have also incorrectly advised that once classified as NP , one cannot be reclassified to a local, this is false , and actually has no provision cited. Again people getting emotional pretending they know the subject , the subject is NOT Philippines law, but international policy., both FIBA and what internationally is an acceptable verification that can be applied universally , one policy can never apply to every nations laws.
this is directed to the Qunito of this world (or similar mindset ). They based things on our unque cultural and system understanding of things , NOT how things are applied universally for many. Big difference
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
Exactly, definitely better chance than Clarkson, who they focused on for an exception rather than Kouame, (against my advise ) and against the clear guidelines explicitly provided by FIBA. This is the problem when you have people decide not based on sound analysis but based on emotional understanding of what they feel is right ( meron dugo).. adherence to policy for good outcomes has nothing to do with nationalism pride, people could never get around the mindset that a African Naturalized player Kouame meets requirements more than supposedly someone who has distant lineage (who people consider Pinoy)
some people in SBP have also incorrectly advised that once classified as NP , one cannot be reclassified to a local, this is false , and actually has no provision cited. Again people getting emotional pretending they know the subject , the subject is NOT Philippines law, but international policy., both FIBA and what internationally is an acceptable verification that can be applied universally , one policy can never apply to every nations laws.
this is directed to the Qunito of this world (or similar mindset ). They based things on our unque cultural and system understanding of things , NOT how things are applied universally for many. Big difference"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
May I ask, is there any player who used to play for his national team as a naturalized player then later on was granted by FIBA an exemption & thus began to play as a local player for his national team?
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View Postactually a few , many who played in youth teams (wont mention local names) , who failed to get passport before 16 , were originally classified for the tournament as NP ( quota of 1) to play, then reclassified for the future. also if you read the article below on Abassi he was originally classified as a NP. Do note the submission advise given for Koume if we were to use him as a NP was to include this should not prejudice his application ( if submited) for exception. There really are sensible ways of addressing this , problem is SBP and our ways are to hard headed and to close in mindset ( we only think of our laws- meron dugo , and supposedly rights , which is not the issue at all
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
May I ask, is there any player who used to play for his national team as a naturalized player then later on was granted by FIBA an exemption & thus began to play as a local player for his national team?Attack
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Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post
I think Isaac Fotu of Tall Blacks….
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